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Post by PrijesDardanian on Feb 9, 2008 17:59:05 GMT -5
Paraardhesit e shqiptareve jane nord*ke
Paraardhesit gjenetik te shqiptareve, me shume mundesi, kane zbritur nga veriu i Evropes, ose e thene ndryshe nga tokat e nord*keve. Ne kete konkluzion befasues ka mberritur, Laboratori i Gjenetikes ne Tirane, pas krahasimit te ADN-se se shqiptareve me popullsine e vendeve te tjera evropiane. Keshtu ne baze te krahasimit te kryer eshte konstatuar se 78 per qind e geneve te analizuara jane te ngjashme me verioret e Evropes, dhe shume me pak me vendet fqinje qe na rrethojne. Ky studim perforcon edhe me shume hipotezen e studiuesit Eqerem Cabej, i cili thoshte se paraardhesit gjenetike te shqiptareve kane zbritur mijera vjet me pare nga veriu i Evropes. Sipas gjenetistit, Grigor Zoraqi, studimi ka dale ne perfundimin se shqiptaret kane shume pak ngjashmeri me greket dhe fare pak me sllavet. Per te kryer studimin e testeve te AND-se, gjenetistet, kane marre ne analize 15 gene te trupit njerezor, duke u mbeshtetur ne perhapjen e tyre ne popullate. Ne kryerjen e ketij studimi ata kane marre parasysh te gjitha frekuencat e formave te ndryshme te nje geni te caktuar si dhe semundshmerine e tij. Sipas specialisteve, studimi qe behet per here te pare ne vendin tone eshte e rendesishem, edhe per te ekzaminuar prejardhjen biologjike te shqiptareve. Deri me tani skeletet e zbuluara jane derguar ne vende te tjera, kjo ne pamundesi per te analizuar ne vend prejardhjen gjenetike te tyre.
KORRIERI (09.02.2008)
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Post by albaniansoul on Feb 10, 2008 11:03:36 GMT -5
We dont have a connection with Nordic people nor have we lived near the nordic. I'm guessing a greek or slav will pop up the "Skåne->Skaneland-> S'kane Land."
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 10, 2008 11:37:21 GMT -5
Finally someone making some type of sense..... of course you're all Nordic.... with your blond hair and white skin.... there is no way you come from the Med area..I mean look around you .... Spanish ,Portuguese,Italians..... Greeks..... Persians...... you don't look anything like them.... somehow it got too cold for you and you wondered down around 1250 ad..... and been stirring the chit ever since.... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Feb 10, 2008 15:22:27 GMT -5
Finally someone making some type of sense..... of course you're all Nordic.... with your blond hair and white skin.... there is no way you come from the Med area..I mean look around you .... Spanish ,Portuguese,Italians..... Greeks..... Persians...... you don't look anything like them.... somehow it got too cold for you and you wondered down around 1250 ad..... and been stirring the chit ever since.... ;D ;D ;D ;D Kanaris Genetical Anthropology have nothing to do with Phsycial AnthropologyAlso you have here another study (made 2 years ago) where Albanians (only Nation from Balcan) appear with North Europeans and Venedians (that suppose to be Illyrian Tribes) another interesing is that Tyrol and Stiria (both province of Austria) have most strong Dinaric present in North Europe. img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s004390041201zflb29pr.gifOriginal link: dienekes.blogspot.com/2005/01/y-strs-in-europe.html
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Post by Kassandros on Feb 10, 2008 17:31:53 GMT -5
If you're Nordics... then what are you doing in Balkans? lol lol Do you steal Med's people lands? The stupidy of people in these forums gets so extreme... lol lol
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Post by Kassandros on Feb 10, 2008 17:32:32 GMT -5
PS. Since... Alexander the Great.. was Albanian... he was Nordic too? lol lol omg lol lol
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Post by jerryspringer on Feb 10, 2008 23:01:15 GMT -5
Hahahaha!
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Post by albaniansoul on Feb 11, 2008 3:04:28 GMT -5
You the macedonian guy, reality hit you? Macedonia as Bosnia is doomed? Good. Only possible way is that, the north illyrians went up. Meaning its still Pelasgians(a group of these migrated to north)->Illyrians(or these)->Albanians. This is teh only thing that would explain Skanelands name. When they came they named it after themselfs. "S'kane land" (Dont have land)
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Feb 11, 2008 3:53:21 GMT -5
If you're Nordics... then what are you doing in Balkans? lol lol Do you steal Med's people lands? The stupidy of people in these forums gets so extreme... lol lol you are really retard, this say Genetic study (we dont claim) and you can't deny this, ok joke? This mean that Illyrians/Macedonians camed from North Europe to Balcan while ancient greeks camed from Cental Asia...6000-10000 years ago...and we dont know who were first in Balcan here Illyrians or Greeks.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Feb 11, 2008 6:13:55 GMT -5
Paraardhesit e shqiptareve jane nord*ke Paraardhesit gjenetik te shqiptareve, me shume mundesi, kane zbritur nga veriu i Evropes, ose e thene ndryshe nga tokat e nord*keve. Ne kete konkluzion befasues ka mberritur, Laboratori i Gjenetikes ne Tirane, pas krahasimit te ADN-se se shqiptareve me popullsine e vendeve te tjera evropiane. Keshtu ne baze te krahasimit te kryer eshte konstatuar se 78 per qind e geneve te analizuara jane te ngjashme me verioret e Evropes, dhe shume me pak me vendet fqinje qe na rrethojne. Ky studim perforcon edhe me shume hipotezen e studiuesit Eqerem Cabej, i cili thoshte se paraardhesit gjenetike te shqiptareve kane zbritur mijera vjet me pare nga veriu i Evropes. Sipas gjenetistit, Grigor Zoraqi, studimi ka dale ne perfundimin se shqiptaret kane shume pak ngjashmeri me greket dhe fare pak me sllavet. Per te kryer studimin e testeve te AND-se, gjenetistet, kane marre ne analize 15 gene te trupit njerezor, duke u mbeshtetur ne perhapjen e tyre ne popullate. Ne kryerjen e ketij studimi ata kane marre parasysh te gjitha frekuencat e formave te ndryshme te nje geni te caktuar si dhe semundshmerine e tij. Sipas specialisteve, studimi qe behet per here te pare ne vendin tone eshte e rendesishem, edhe per te ekzaminuar prejardhjen biologjike te shqiptareve. Deri me tani skeletet e zbuluara jane derguar ne vende te tjera, kjo ne pamundesi per te analizuar ne vend prejardhjen gjenetike te tyre. KORRIERI (09.02.2008) According to the Tirana Genetics Laboratory results, the genetic mutation Delta F508 was found in 78% of a group Albanians tested randomly. Researchers say this supports the theory that we descended from the northern parts of the continent. This was the first ever genetic research of this type in Albania. The testing was carried out using a group of 50/50 males and females. Obviously the results were somewhat unsuspected. According to the researchers the genetic mutation Delta F508, is present at levels of 50% in the Mediterranean populations, meanwhile this same mutation is present at levels of over 70% in the northern European inhabitants. Therefore they concluded that our descent leans more on the northern side, without too many links to our Balkan neighbors. The researchers claimed that these results speak louder about our descent as northern-Europeans. These results further sustain the theses of the Albanian scholar Eqerem Çabej, who found commonalities between our people and those of northern Europe. Also, according to the Albanian scholar Moikom Zeqo, thousands of years ago there were waves of migrations by the indo-european peoples toward the south of the Balkan peninsula, and it is very possible that Albanians are descendens of those tribes, relatives of the Germanic ones. www.peshkupauje.com/rezultate-gjenetike-te-prejardhjes-se-shqiptareve/2008/02/09/
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Feb 11, 2008 6:15:18 GMT -5
Coon on Halstatt Culture (1000 BC) and the origin of the Illyrians:
`In beginning our survey of Iron Age Indo-European peoples, it may be well to choose the earliest instance in which we can definitely identify a language with a culture and a racial entity. This is true of the so-called Hallstatt culture associated with the Illyrian branch of Indo-European speech.
`This culture arose in central Europe, with southern Germany and Austria as a focus, sometime shortly after the beginning of the first millennium B.C. It developed out of local Bronze Age origins carried over from the Urnfiels, and in turn from Aunjetitz.
`The Hallstatt culture spread in many directions, including the southeast, where it penetrated Bosnia, and eventually Albania. It moved slowly northward, until it reached the Scandinavian and North German area, bringing iron to these regions relatively late; while to the southwest, it crossed France and penetrated Catalonia. To the immediate south, it likewise spread over the Alps into Italy, where the invading Illyrians split into a number of local tribal groups, including the Veneti`.
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-Coon on the racial composition of Illyrian skeletons: `When we move to southern Germany, however, which was equally involved in the development of this culture, we find no such racial uniformity…
`As the Illyrians spread southwestward along the Dinaric Alps into Montenegro and Albania, they apparently blended with an indigenous brachycephalic mountain population which may have been more numerous than the invaders; for, with some additions and modifications, it persists as a predominant element today.
`In a small series of early Christian crania from a site near Split on the Dalmatian coast, 23 both Dinaric brachycephals and a few long-headed crania are represented.
`In Albania, a country which is almost completely unknown archaeologically, a single skull which belonged to a Romanized Illyrian group has been found in an Iron Age site in the tribe of Puka. 24 This skull is mesocephalic, and seems, insofar as we may judge, intermediate between the Illyrians of the old type and Dinarics`.
NOTES: The Illyrians skeletons of Europe reveal that the Illyrians were composed of two phenotypes; mostly Dinaric and Nordic.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Feb 11, 2008 6:20:58 GMT -5
Coon on Halstatt Culture (1000 BC) and the origin of the Illyrians:`This culture arose in central Europe, with southern Germany and Austria as a focus, sometime shortly after the beginning of the first millennium B.C. It developed out of local Bronze Age origins carried over from the Urnfiels, and in turn from Aunjetitz. `The Hallstatt culture spread in many directions, including the southeast, where it penetrated Bosnia, and eventually Albania. It moved slowly northward, until it reached the Scandinavian and North German area, bringing iron to these regions relatively late; while to the southwest, it crossed France and penetrated Catalonia. To the immediate south, it likewise spread over the Alps into Italy, where the invading Illyrians split into a number of local tribal groups, including the Veneti`. ----------------------------- is not coincidence??? another study from western: Albanians, Venedians, Germans, Austrians in same GROUP!!!
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Post by jerryspringer on Feb 11, 2008 8:21:28 GMT -5
Mwahahahaha!
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Post by Duke John on Feb 11, 2008 9:20:44 GMT -5
Nordic? lol i cant take this serious what a huge transformation from this: to this:
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Post by whatever on Feb 11, 2008 12:52:22 GMT -5
Hmmm, Nordic? I hardly think so. A kossovar family: I don't understand why the albanian fascination with being nordic or whiter that everyone else in the Balkans. If they are, then they don't belong in the Balkans.
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Post by Duke John on Feb 11, 2008 13:17:22 GMT -5
I don't understand why the albanian fascination with being nordic or whiter that everyone else in the Balkans. If they are, then they don't belong in the Balkans. This is not the common thing among Albanians as far as i know ,i never have heard before that albanians have claimed descending from Nordics, the known fact is that Albanians are moustly of dinaric,alpine and some little norics,in my opinion this claim is out of question and its not worth to have discussion. Nice painting on that wall.
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Post by arpagjiki on Feb 11, 2008 13:48:32 GMT -5
Finally someone making some type of sense..... of course you're all Nordic.... with your blond hair and white skin.... there is no way you come from the Med area..I mean look around you .... Spanish ,Portuguese,Italians..... Greeks..... Persians...... you don't look anything like them.... somehow it got too cold for you and you wondered down around 1250 ad..... and been stirring the chit ever since.... ;D ;D ;D ;D hahah... this one is good kantar ej ajde lerini kto koqelleqe lidhur me gjenetiken e dukjen e jashtme.. se te tjeret po mendojne se jemi te fiksuar pas dukjes se bardhe..
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Feb 12, 2008 1:56:13 GMT -5
You all have confuzed Genetical Anthropology with Phsycial Anthropology...this thread is not about phisycal but Genetic, this article say may albanians camed from Central or North Europe maybe 8000 or 10000 years ago... that is all.
Jo nuk eshte kere koqelleqe me len se kjo osht studim nga shkenctaret shqiptar dhe te huaj e tash ti nese e injoron e te duket qesharake shko mbeshtete teorite e atij shkaut qe e ka hap webin kunder shqiptarve se ajo osht pikerisht koqelleq...kjo osht studim shkencor ( e jo karlleq) po ti keni 2 dite shkolle nuk eshte aq lehte me injoru.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 12, 2008 2:01:03 GMT -5
camed from Central or North Europe maybe 8000 or 10000 years ago... that is all.
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Post by albaniansoul on Feb 12, 2008 5:36:37 GMT -5
Can someone change the missleading threadtitle? Our ancestors were not nordic, North Illyrian tribes mixed with Celts. Nothing more, nothing less.
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