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Post by hellboy87 on Nov 15, 2008 22:32:43 GMT -5
Was waiting for it and then I came across it! Walla!
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 18, 2008 22:14:22 GMT -5
Hellboy, in your opinion, are the Armenians more accepted in the Turkish society now than before?
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Post by meltdown711 on Nov 18, 2008 23:36:37 GMT -5
Considering how low their numbers are in comparison to the far larger Turkish presence... and considering how its only a few thousand who are rediscovering themselves, I think Armenians are largely doing this for masturbation than reality.
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Post by hellboy87 on Nov 19, 2008 12:50:44 GMT -5
Hellboy, in your opinion, are the Armenians more accepted in the Turkish society now than before? ermmmm.....hard to say,but I think so,a bit more I would say.
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Post by hellboy87 on Nov 19, 2008 12:57:53 GMT -5
Considering how low their numbers are in comparison to the far larger Turkish presence... and considering how its only a few thousand who are rediscovering themselves, I think Armenians are largely doing this for masturbation than reality. Masturbation than reality? Meaning? Escapism?? By the way,its said there are like tens of thousands of crypto-Armenians in Turkey
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 19, 2008 19:38:00 GMT -5
"ermmmm.....hard to say,but I think so,a bit more I would say."
Do you think this is so because the Turkish government has an ambition to join the EU and prove to them they are improving relations with her minorities?
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Post by hellboy87 on Nov 20, 2008 1:17:29 GMT -5
From what Ive read,the goverment has done litttle to nothing when it comes to cultural rights of their minorities.
As for the Turkish society,I think only a tiny minority who are progressive and I believe thats probably because of being exposed to other view points.
By the way Novi,I am not a Turkish citizen and have never been to Turkey.What I say is based on what I read and hear on news,and also by paying attention to things going on in Turkey.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 20, 2008 6:04:31 GMT -5
^ l appreciate your honesty mate. However l ask because you know heaps more about asia minor than l do.
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Post by hellboy87 on Nov 20, 2008 16:54:11 GMT -5
well,thanks
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Post by meltdown711 on Nov 21, 2008 15:02:54 GMT -5
The source seems very favorably Armenian and we have to ask what constitutes as a 'crypto' Armenian... we have seen various claims of such being thrown around before.
But, giving the benefit of the doubt, even if there were as many as 100,000, it would still be a drop in an ocean.
But I dont expect Armenians, a people who have yet to recognize the current borders, to not have these wishes and ideas of some secret group of Armenians who will suddenly rise up out of nowhere...
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Post by hellboy87 on Nov 22, 2008 12:23:27 GMT -5
Crypto-Armenian?
I would say someone who says they are Turk to others but think themselves as Armenian and practise their Armenian Christianity and probably loyal to Armenian related stuff.
But you must remember these are the ones who became 'Turks' in the 1900's.
There are many many more Turks who are of Armenian anestry who became Turks long long time ago
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