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Post by panagiotopoulos on Apr 23, 2008 13:43:16 GMT -5
Edit me all you want. You will pay for what you did to your Christian minorities one day. The ball is in your court now. Do not cry when you get your assses kicked though. Okay?
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Apr 23, 2008 13:43:49 GMT -5
Because no one is gonna feel any sympathy for you, because you have not given any.
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Post by storm on Apr 23, 2008 13:49:50 GMT -5
will you answer the question. do you condemn the ethnic cleansing of Muslim minorities from Greece following independence....yes or no.
if no, then what gives you the moral highground to demand that others condemn their own actions when you dont condemn yours
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Post by Kastorianos on Apr 23, 2008 14:11:12 GMT -5
Turkey and the Turks will pay one day for what they did.
@ storm I dont believe you can compare in any way the crimes committed by both sides, Greeks and Turks.
Besides.....the Turks came and conquered foreign land and enslaved the native people living there, not the Greeks. You cannot expect and demand from a victim of trespass to treat the burglar well. Thats absurd.
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Post by storm on Apr 23, 2008 14:15:40 GMT -5
why is it not comparable? ethnic cleansing is ethnic cleansing isnt it? a large number of those Muslims (if not the majority) were native Greeks who converted to Islam. they were just as native to that land as the Christian Greeks were. they can hardly be described as burglars.
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Post by Kastorianos on Apr 23, 2008 15:14:26 GMT -5
Some were indeed of Greek origin, still they represented the occupying element due to their religion. Further they didnt call themselves Greeks but Turks, they were turkified Greeks. In the end you are what you are calling yourself.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Apr 23, 2008 16:13:50 GMT -5
The ottomans were a mixed race... so u were conquered by your own people along with Turks and others.. too bad get over it Fatih Sultan Mehmet was half Greek blame your ow weak genetics not us Panny how old are you 12?
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Post by Kastorianos on Apr 23, 2008 18:04:51 GMT -5
How was he half Greek? Couldnt find anything about it, he looked like a moggol I dont think you are right.
But even if he was...what counts is the way he was educated...and if this guy did conquer the Byzantine capital and at the same day turned the Hagia Sophia into a mosque and simultaneously beheaded thousands of people of the city....then let me tell you that this guy was everything but by no means Greek.
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Post by storm on Apr 23, 2008 18:23:50 GMT -5
Mehmed's mother was supposedly a Greek.
and he doesnt look like a moggol he looks Anatolid more than anything else.
are you saying that anyone carrying Greek blood isnt capable of commiting crimes?
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Apr 23, 2008 20:19:33 GMT -5
Mehmed's mother was supposedly a Greek. and he doesnt look like a moggol he looks Anatolid more than anything else. are you saying that anyone carrying Greek blood isnt capable of commiting crimes? More fairy tales and a backwards outlook on life.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Apr 23, 2008 20:25:01 GMT -5
will you answer the question. do you condemn the ethnic cleansing of Muslim minorities from Greece following independence....yes or no. if no, then what gives you the moral highground to demand that others condemn their own actions when you dont condemn yours Greeks never ethnically cleansed anyone. They kicked your militaries asss AND YOU LEFT WITH YOUR TAILS BETWEEN YOUR LEGS LIKE DOGS. I cannot say you didnt deserve to get your asses kicked. You deserved every bit of it and I wish I was alive to participate.
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Post by fenian on Apr 24, 2008 1:39:58 GMT -5
will you answer the question. do you condemn the ethnic cleansing of Muslim minorities from Greece following independence....yes or no. if no, then what gives you the moral highground to demand that others condemn their own actions when you dont condemn yours Greeks never ethnically cleansed anyone. They kicked your militaries asss AND YOU LEFT WITH YOUR TAILS BETWEEN YOUR LEGS LIKE DOGS. I cannot say you didnt deserve to get your asses kicked. You deserved every bit of it and I wish I was alive to participate. Chamerian Muslims, either?
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Post by storm on Apr 24, 2008 7:36:58 GMT -5
Greeks never ethnically cleansed anyone. They kicked your militaries asss AND YOU LEFT WITH YOUR TAILS BETWEEN YOUR LEGS LIKE DOGS. I cannot say you didnt deserve to get your asses kicked. You deserved every bit of it and I wish I was alive to participate. explain what happened to the Chamerians then? also explain the Massacres of Navarino and Tripoli and Crete
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Apr 24, 2008 7:37:42 GMT -5
After the Fall of Constantinople, Mehmed claimed the title of Caesar of Rome (Kayser-i Rûm), since Byzantium was what had become of the Roman Empire after the transfer of its capital to Constantinople in 330 AD. Mehmed also had blood lineage to the Byzantine imperial family, as his predecessors like Sultan Orhan I had married a Greek princess. He was not the only ruler to claim such a title, as there was the Holy Roman Empire in Western Europe, whose emperor, Frederick III, traced his titular lineage from Charlemagne who obtained the title of Roman Emperor when he was crowned by Pope Leo III in 800. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmed_IIenjoy kasto
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Apr 24, 2008 8:35:00 GMT -5
Greeks never ethnically cleansed anyone. They kicked your militaries asss AND YOU LEFT WITH YOUR TAILS BETWEEN YOUR LEGS LIKE DOGS. I cannot say you didnt deserve to get your asses kicked. You deserved every bit of it and I wish I was alive to participate. explain what happened to the Chamerians then? also explain the Massacres of Navarino and Tripoli and Crete What happened? You ......NAZI BASTARDS GOT YOUR ..... KICKED OUT OF OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE YOU HAD BEEN MURDERING US FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS. You call it ethnic cleansing, I call it liberation. ALL OF OUR ALLIES SUPPORTED US IN CONFRONTING THESE NAZI COLLABORATING CHAMS. That is the keyword they were NAZIS. You should look up the death tolls in Greece in during World War Two. I can assure you the people who died were not Chams.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Apr 24, 2008 8:35:31 GMT -5
Was it also a genocide when the Greeks resisted the Germans and kicked them out of their country?
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Apr 24, 2008 8:41:44 GMT -5
If we murdered u all - how come an amoeba like u still exists?
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Post by Kastorianos on Apr 24, 2008 18:22:17 GMT -5
Thats all about speculations. I still dont think his mother was Greek, the guy looks like coming from Moggolia, if he was 50% Greek he would show at least soe few caucasoid features. But as I already said above...even if mehmet had some greek origins, thats not what counts. People are judged by what they do and not by what they are. And if he conquered Kon/polis in the name of and for the Ottoman Empire, the Ottoman Empire an its inhabitants (at this time we can say the dominant, ruling part of them only- here the Turks) and only them benefit from it...but the same way they are responsible for everything bad coming from it. You cannot pick up only the positive things of something.
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Post by yahadj on Apr 24, 2008 23:29:03 GMT -5
Whine or not. Istanbul is ours now. If you had deserved it it would have stayed yours. But you didn't. You can only cry about it. It is OK. Do that. Good for the nerves. Thanks to Almighty Allah for our victories! The plan of Allah is above all! PEACE
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Apr 25, 2008 2:30:27 GMT -5
Thats a Greek nose mate.
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