CiKoLa
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Post by CiKoLa on Sept 9, 2008 23:43:35 GMT -5
Hrvatski rtv-kanal na Vijeću ministara
Autor Dejan JAZVIĆ Dom naroda Parlamentarne skupštine Bosne i Hercegovine na sljedećem će zasjedanju, koje bi se trebalo održati sljedeće srijede, 17. rujna, ponovo glasovati o zaključku čiji je predlagatelj Ilija Filipović, a u kojem se od Vijeća ministara traži pokretanje zakonske procedure za uspostavu kanala na hrvatskom jeziku u sklopu Javnog RTV servisa BiH. Usvajanje zaključkaKako doznajemo, zaključak će biti usvojen unatoč protivljenju većine bošnjačkih izaslanika u tome domu. Pozivanjem na vitalni nacionalni interes prilikom prvog glasovanja o zaključku bošnjački su zastupnici iscrpili ustavnu mogućnost blokiranja toga zaključka. Naime, Ustavni sud BiH nije potvrdio ugroženost bošnjačkog nacionalnog interesa u tome slučaju, odnosno procijenio je da se zahtjev Kluba Bošnjaka uopće ne može razmatrati u tom kontekstu. Procedura nalaže da se Dom naroda ponovo izjasni o Filipovićevu zaključku, koji bi trebao biti prvi konkretan korak ka uspostavi kanala na hrvatskom jeziku unutar Javnog rtv-servisa na razini države BiH. Osim hrvatskih, za usvajanje zaključka gotovo sigurno će glasovati i srpski zastupnici. Oni su još prilikom prvog izjašnjavanja podržali taj zaključak i pravo Hrvata da imaju javni rtv-kanal na svome jeziku. Veći broj kanala Nakon odluke Ustavnog suda BiH Domu naroda ostaje samo potvrditi zaključak koji je već jednom usvojio. Vijeće ministara će potom biti na potezu. Ono mora provoditi zakon i to je upravo ono što mu Dom naroda nalaže svojim zaključkom. Ne smiju se oglušiti o naš zahtjev i o zakon. Vijeće ministara smo mi postavili i dali mu u zadaću provoditi zakon. Ne može se zakon selektivno primjenjivati i Vijeće ministara mora povesti zakonsku odredbu koja govori o povećanju broja kanala unutar Javnog rtv-servisa ističe zastupnik u Klubu Hrvata u Domu naroda Ivo Miro Jović. www.vecernji.hr/newsroom/news/bih/3162252/index.do
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Post by tyson on Sept 10, 2008 0:19:43 GMT -5
there should be a bosnian croat tv channel. i agree
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Sept 10, 2008 0:46:56 GMT -5
Actually , its state monopoly on airwaves that causes this. Get rid of government TV and you won't have this problem. People with different preferences would be willing to pay for what they want and would select their channels accordingly.
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Post by sweetnugs on Sept 10, 2008 8:31:22 GMT -5
Actually , its state monopoly on airwaves that causes this. Get rid of government TV and you won't have this problem. People with different preferences would be willing to pay for what they want and would select their channels accordingly. Agreed.
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Post by radovic on Sept 10, 2008 9:07:39 GMT -5
Actually , its state monopoly on airwaves that causes this. Get rid of government TV and you won't have this problem. People with different preferences would be willing to pay for what they want and would select their channels accordingly. The Croats want a public channel. The Croats in BiH could easily set-up a channel over cable or satellite systems. But they don't want to pay for this, so they want the state to pay.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Sept 10, 2008 17:50:51 GMT -5
Actually , its state monopoly on airwaves that causes this. Get rid of government TV and you won't have this problem. People with different preferences would be willing to pay for what they want and would select their channels accordingly. The Croats want a public channel. The Croats in BiH could easily set-up a channel over cable or satellite systems. But they don't want to pay for this, so they want the state to pay. Either they want public TV because the 'other side' has public airwaves or they don't really want it and just want to make a political cry. If they cannot have private airwaves, then the public option would be the only one. I don't know exactly the management of airwaves in Bosnia and Herzegovina so forgive me. Allowing a free market situation with the airwaves and the corresponding abolishment of taxes to pay for public ones is the only way to see what people really want, of course , thats what they're willing to pay for.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Sept 10, 2008 17:52:06 GMT -5
People should have the option to pay for private TV and NOT pay for public accordingly or else its extortion and grounds for conflict.
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Post by kapetan on Sept 10, 2008 18:03:19 GMT -5
All these "ethnic channels" should be banned for all of us. Should just be normal, Bosnian news, with a multi ethnic staff and unbiased view. They should just REPORT NEWS, not give us their opinions on it.
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Post by CiKoLa on Sept 10, 2008 19:40:12 GMT -5
Bosnian news
and hercegovian.
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Post by kapetan on Sept 10, 2008 19:51:11 GMT -5
Well yea obviosly, for the whole country, I just say 'Bosnian' cuz thats the common all encompassing term for the whole country in the rest of the world and it's inhabitants.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Sept 10, 2008 19:54:21 GMT -5
All these "ethnic channels" should be banned for all of us. Should just be normal, Bosnian news, with a multi ethnic staff and unbiased view. They should just REPORT NEWS, not give us their opinions on it. 'Banning' requires force from a centralized institution of coercion and doesn't do much to fix anything. Since TV is dependent on state restrictions, which ever 'ethnic group' has the most political power over the airwaves will be viewed as representing only his constituency, and he is. The only practical way I see to really tackle the ethnic problem with TV, just like the schools, is to take the state out of it altogether and privatize it. It shifts the incentives from political to economic in a substantial way. It is also non violent and this is the basis to really provide the people , at least most of them , with what they want.
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Post by radovic on Sept 10, 2008 22:06:03 GMT -5
The Croats want a public channel. The Croats in BiH could easily set-up a channel over cable or satellite systems. But they don't want to pay for this, so they want the state to pay. Either they want public TV because the 'other side' has public airwaves or they don't really want it and just want to make a political cry. If they cannot have private airwaves, then the public option would be the only one. I don't know exactly the management of airwaves in Bosnia and Herzegovina so forgive me. Allowing a free market situation with the airwaves and the corresponding abolishment of taxes to pay for public ones is the only way to see what people really want, of course , thats what they're willing to pay for. I don't either. But I know OBN, a major network in Bosnia, is owned by Croatia's RTL Televizija.
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Post by radovic on Sept 10, 2008 22:07:44 GMT -5
All these "ethnic channels" should be banned for all of us. Should just be normal, Bosnian news, with a multi ethnic staff and unbiased view. They should just REPORT NEWS, not give us their opinions on it. ^ That would seem ridicoulous. I've heard from some that they tried this before the war. Let's just say that the news instead of being half an hour was shown 4 times- 1's Croat perspective, 1's Serb, 1's Bosniak, and 1's Yugoslav (re-broadcast of YUTEL). Then there's also the fact that if that wasn't done you would hear several conflicting accounts on the same topic.
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Post by kapetan on Sept 10, 2008 22:20:26 GMT -5
yes but I said we dont need anyones opinions just facts. report news that sit.
bbc for the most part reports news and asks questions, it doesnt go out of its way to tell me what to think.
altho there is SHOWS where people discuss things and stat eopinions...which is ok. you can always have guests from all backgrounds etc..
but as far as a fuckin' person sitting there just telling us whats new, its what a robot could do, just read the fuckin facts. make the anchor a fuckin gypsy or chinese or some shit.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Sept 10, 2008 22:50:56 GMT -5
All these "ethnic channels" should be banned for all of us. Should just be normal, Bosnian news, with a multi ethnic staff and unbiased view. They should just REPORT NEWS, not give us their opinions on it. ^ That would seem ridicoulous. I've heard from some that they tried this before the war. Let's just say that the news instead of being half an hour was shown 4 times- 1's Croat perspective, 1's Serb, 1's Bosniak, and 1's Yugoslav (re-broadcast of YUTEL). Then there's also the fact that if that wasn't done you would hear several conflicting accounts on the same topic. But if the TV remains in government hands then its ultimately subject to the whims of the politicians who usually turn out to endorse ethnic divisions according to their platform. Free Market TV seems like the best solution to me. You pay for what kind of TV you want. Companies would have the incentive to provide service for the greatest amount of eyeballs regardless of ethnicity because more viewers mean more $$$. Eventually the private TV channels would even out to most people's general satisfaction to the point of not minding paying for TV. If I ran a my own TV station in the Mostar area , then in order to maximize profit, I would need to attract the most viewers regardless of tribal allegance. If I decide to only serve Croats, then I'm cutting off 50% of my potential market and, therefore , 50% of my max profit. Some other competitor can simply offer business to everyone and have at least 50% of the market unchallenged and can then charge lower rates forcing me to serve everyone unless I want my business to tank. It could be solved in a variety of ways using free market mechanisms, this is just one way.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Sept 10, 2008 22:52:29 GMT -5
yes but I said we dont need anyones opinions just facts. report news that sit. bbc for the most part reports news and asks questions, it doesnt go out of its way to tell me what to think. altho there is SHOWS where people discuss things and stat eopinions...which is ok. you can always have guests from all backgrounds etc.. but as far as a f**kin' person sitting there just telling us whats new, its what a robot could do, just read the f**kin facts. make the anchor a f**kin gypsy or chinese or some s**t. Government TV will always reflect government opinion and propaganda. The tone of the propaganda will be that of which ever gang is in control of the state. Using force through politics to solve a problem for the people inevidably leads to corruption.
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Post by CiKoLa on Sept 17, 2008 8:03:02 GMT -5
Osniva se radio-televizijski kanal na službenom hrvatskom jeziku! Dom naroda Parlamentarne skupštine BiH prihvatio je danas zaključak Ilije Filipovića kojim se predlaže da Dom naroda obaveže Vijeće ministara BiH da pokrene postupak osnivanja radio-televizijskog kanala na hrvatskom jeziku unutar Javnog RTV sustava BiH. Obrazlažući svoju inicijativu, Filipović je istaknuo da se ne radi o nacionalnom kanalu, nego kanalu na službenom hrvatskom jeziku. Zastupnik Hazim Rančić tražio je da izjašnjavanje o ovom zaključku bude skinuto s dnevnom reda sjednice, što Filipović nije prihvatio. Protiv zaključka su glasali članovi Kluba Bošnjaka, koji su i ranije bili po istom pitanju pokrenuli pitanje vitalnog nacionalnog interesa pred Ustavnim sudom BiH, no Sud je utvrdio kako se zaključkom ne ugrožava vitalni interes Bošnjaka. Dom naroda danas je podržao principe Prijedloga zakona o izmjenama i dopunama Zakona o porezu na dodanu vrijednost (PDV), čiji je predlagač Mladen Ivanić. Predloženi zakon je predviđao primjenjivanje stope PDV-a od 5% na osnovne živežne namirnice poput hrane za bebe, brašna, mlijeka, ulja itd., kao i na lijekove i ortopedska pomagala. Podržan je zahtjev Vijeća ministara BiH da se po skraćenom postupku razmatra Prijedlog zakona o dopunama Zakona o izmirenju obveza po osnovu računa stare devizne štednje. www.bljesak.info/content/view/16777/155/
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Post by tyson on Sept 17, 2008 12:04:41 GMT -5
its about time. good news!
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Post by bosanskinovi on Sept 17, 2008 13:36:29 GMT -5
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Post by MiG on Sept 17, 2008 13:44:58 GMT -5
^ LOL!
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