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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Aug 12, 2008 0:04:54 GMT -5
11 August 2008 | 21:03 | Source: FoNet SARAJEVO -- Miroslav Lajèak says the Bosnian Federation is "not a healthy formation, politically or economically".
The High Representative to Bosnia-Herzegovina pinned the blame for this on political parties that are at the helm of coalitions.
Ignoring and outvoting is not the best manner to lead the Federation out of its present condition, the Slovak diplomat warned today in Sarajevo.
He stressed that recent instances where representatives of the Croat community were outvoted should not be repeated in the future.
Lajèak believes that this "discouraging" political situation should be resolved through a reform of the Bosnian constitution.
Bosnia-Herzegovina was divided into two entities in the 1996 Dayton peace process: the Muslim-Croat Federation, and the Bosnian Serb Republic of Srpska.
I believe that the FBIH is still an immature state.
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Post by CiKoLa on Aug 12, 2008 0:11:29 GMT -5
I've noticed that whenever Constitutional reform is on the agenda, someone from the West criticizes one or both of the entities in BiH. This is a good strategy for furthering the idea of a new BiH constitution.
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Post by zgembo on Aug 12, 2008 3:42:34 GMT -5
Uncanny insight, Pickola.
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Post by osmano on Aug 12, 2008 5:35:33 GMT -5
12.08.2008. Hrvatski delegat u Domu naroda FBiH Ivo Komšiæ istièe da su "vladajuæe stranke te koje neprestano destabiliziraju FBiH i ekonomski i politièki".
- Jedno od rješenja jeste i reforma Ustava BiH. Ali, problem te reforme nije FBiH, veæ postojanje RS. To bi konaèno morali shvatiti svi iz meðunarodne zajednice, pa i visoki predstvnik. Jer, sve dok postoji RS kao entitet za sebe, BiH æe biti nestabilna, a time i FBiH. Mi smo s Vašingtonskim sporazumom stavili ad acta "Herceg-Bosnu" kao ratnu hrvatsku paradržavnu tvorevinu u BiH, a legalizirali RS i sve dok postoji ta legalizacija, postojat æe i politièka nestabilnost FBiH - kazao je Komšiæ.
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Post by tito on Aug 12, 2008 7:35:41 GMT -5
12.08.2008. Hrvatski delegat u Domu naroda FBiH Ivo Komšiæ istièe da su "vladajuæe stranke te koje neprestano destabiliziraju FBiH i ekonomski i politièki". - Jedno od rješenja jeste i reforma Ustava BiH. Ali, problem te reforme nije FBiH, veæ postojanje RS. To bi konaèno morali shvatiti svi iz meðunarodne zajednice, pa i visoki predstvnik. Jer, sve dok postoji RS kao entitet za sebe, BiH æe biti nestabilna, a time i FBiH. Mi smo s Vašingtonskim sporazumom stavili ad acta "Herceg-Bosnu" kao ratnu hrvatsku paradržavnu tvorevinu u BiH, a legalizirali RS i sve dok postoji ta legalizacija, postojat æe i politièka nestabilnost FBiH - kazao je Komšiæ. Does anyone know if Ivo is related to Zeljko?
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Aug 12, 2008 7:38:21 GMT -5
Those who are trying to destabilise and destroy the RS are infact destroying themselves instead and destroying the FBIH and destabilising it even more. Instead of concentrating on destroying the RS, why not concentrate on important things such as the Economy, improving the standards of living, attracting foreign investments and etc...
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Post by tito on Aug 12, 2008 7:51:24 GMT -5
Instead of concentrating on destroying the RS, why not concentrate on important things such as the Economy, improving the standards of living, attracting foreign investments and etc... rješenja jeste i reforma Ustava BiH. Ali, problem te reforme nije FBiH, veæ postojanje RS... Jer, sve dok postoji RS kao entitet za sebe, BiH æe biti nestabilna, a time i FBiH. Mi smo s Vašingtonskim sporazumom stavili ad acta "Herceg-Bosnu" kao ratnu hrvatsku paradržavnu tvorevinu u BiH, a legalizirali RS i sve dok postoji ta legalizacija, postojat æe i politièka nestabilnost FBiH - kazao je Komšiæ.
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Aug 13, 2008 2:03:29 GMT -5
Instead of concentrating on destroying the RS, why not concentrate on important things such as the Economy, improving the standards of living, attracting foreign investments and etc... rješenja jeste i reforma Ustava BiH. Ali, problem te reforme nije FBiH, veæ postojanje RS... Jer, sve dok postoji RS kao entitet za sebe, BiH æe biti nestabilna, a time i FBiH. Mi smo s Vašingtonskim sporazumom stavili ad acta "Herceg-Bosnu" kao ratnu hrvatsku paradržavnu tvorevinu u BiH, a legalizirali RS i sve dok postoji ta legalizacija, postojat æe i politièka nestabilnost FBiH - kazao je Komšiæ. That is why RS has been receiving way more foreign investments and direct investments than the FBIH and which is why our GDP has increased since 2007 by 13% Aslong as you guys keep trying to destroy RS, FBIH will continue to become unstable in terms of Economy, Society and etc. Concentrate on improving the Economy, Infrastructure and the living of standards first before worrying about RS and the Bosnian Serbs in the other half of BIH. Stop pointing the blame on the RS because it is your own fault for your imcompetencies, not the RS fault.
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Post by tito on Aug 13, 2008 4:56:27 GMT -5
Aslong as you guys keep trying to destroy RS... It is every Bosnians moral obligation to destroy RS since everything less is the total destruction of RS is in fact rewarding genocide.
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Post by CiKoLa on Aug 13, 2008 5:50:03 GMT -5
^^ nothing but a pipe dream ... if anything BiH will get another entity, anything other than that is just smoke and mirrors. The bosniaks have been peddling the same line for over a decade, we will do this, we will do that, yet haven't seemed to achieve anything. The RS exists because the international community wants it to exist ... nothing more nothing less. As soon as the IC tiers with the RS it will be gone in a second.
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Post by Boško Buha on Aug 13, 2008 7:37:05 GMT -5
^^ nothing but a pipe dream ... if anything BiH will get another entity, anything other than that is just smoke and mirrors. The bosniaks have been peddling the same line for over a decade, we will do this, we will do that, yet haven't seemed to achieve anything. The RS exists because the international community wants it to exist ... nothing more nothing less. As soon as the IC tiers with the RS it will be gone in a second. Another entity? Ha I dont know what fantasy land your in but that will never happen.
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Post by theblackswans on Aug 13, 2008 8:47:18 GMT -5
Uncanny insight, Pickola. HAHA! I think I am starting to like you Mapko ;D Sarcasim is my first language.
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Post by theblackswans on Aug 13, 2008 8:54:37 GMT -5
Those who are trying to destabilise and destroy the RS are infact destroying themselves instead and destroying the FBIH and destabilising it even more. Instead of concentrating on destroying the RS, why not concentrate on important things such as the Economy, improving the standards of living, attracting foreign investments and etc... I agree, besides when you strengthen the Federation you weaken rs. Instead all the development has been in the RS in the last few years. While at the same time the federation is focused on paying social benefits to vetrans, war wounded and public officials. This has incensed the the international community and Bosnia is making a big mistake. The talk of partition has grown louder as the Federation has continued to slide. The regime of Siljadzic has been a return to the incompetent war rhetoric which got Bosnia nowere. These are the same people who signed off on Dayton giving 49% to the RS! What am I missing from this picture? The Federation needs Dodik or someone like him a strong man who has the will to push through important legislation and hold the country together. A Putin light if you will or a little Tito...
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Post by theblackswans on Aug 13, 2008 8:54:44 GMT -5
Those who are trying to destabilise and destroy the RS are infact destroying themselves instead and destroying the FBIH and destabilising it even more. Instead of concentrating on destroying the RS, why not concentrate on important things such as the Economy, improving the standards of living, attracting foreign investments and etc... I agree, besides when you strengthen the Federation you weaken rs. Instead all the development has been in the RS in the last few years. While at the same time the federation is focused on paying social benefits to vetrans, war wounded and public officials. This has incensed the the international community and Bosnia is making a big mistake. The talk of partition has grown louder as the Federation has continued to slide. The regime of Siljadzic has been a return to the incompetent war rhetoric which got Bosnia nowere. These are the same people who signed off on Dayton giving 49% to the RS! What am I missing from this picture? The Federation needs Dodik or someone like him a strong man who has the will to push through important legislation and hold the country together. A Putin light if you will or a little Tito...
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Post by CiKoLa on Aug 13, 2008 20:02:56 GMT -5
^^ nothing but a pipe dream ... if anything BiH will get another entity, anything other than that is just smoke and mirrors. The bosniaks have been peddling the same line for over a decade, we will do this, we will do that, yet haven't seemed to achieve anything. The RS exists because the international community wants it to exist ... nothing more nothing less. As soon as the IC tiers with the RS it will be gone in a second. Another entity? Ha I dont know what fantasy land your in but that will never happen. I wouldn't rule it out just yet if i were you ... never say never as they say. The call for a third entity has been getting louder and louder in the last couple of years and many influential people in international circles have started to listen. Lajcak for one ... judging by this article. ;D
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Post by kapetan on Aug 13, 2008 21:15:47 GMT -5
Interesting you say the international community wants RS to exist when I've heard plenty of international politicans say otherwise, that it's keeping the country as a whole back.
I'm sure both opinions are abundant though.
And yes the call for a 3rd entity has been louder, but nobody else wants that either. Last time I read about that idea the "internaitonal community" called it ridiculous. Simply cuz Bosnia is already too fuckin' complex. Can't remeber specificly who said it.
The call for the abolition of RS is getting louder and louder too, so?
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Post by CiKoLa on Aug 13, 2008 21:25:32 GMT -5
^^ it will be a much easier task to create a new entity than bring down the current two.
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Post by kapetan on Aug 13, 2008 21:31:32 GMT -5
^^ it will be a much easier task to create a new entity than bring down the current two. Agreed there. But still every single thing I've seen that anyone from the international community has said has been negative towards that idea. Why confuse things even more? Just kill and cleanse all the Serbs and booya! Cmon, old Croat-Bosniak patnaship! Cekic, kolac, Jasenovac!
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Post by CiKoLa on Aug 13, 2008 21:59:49 GMT -5
I really don't see the problem in decreasing the amount of counties in the federation ... combining the 3 Croat ones together and uniting the bosniaks ones ... it would certainly reduce the amount of funds and bureaucracy spend on them currently. It could be a temporary solution, besides isn't this the reality on the ground already?
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Post by zgembo on Aug 13, 2008 23:38:20 GMT -5
The only thing that is certain is that the two entities will remain. The Federation itself can change by eliminating the 10 cantons and creating something less bureacratic and more functional. The Federation BiH and RS division of Bosnia is the foundation upon which the country is built though, it could only be changed through war.
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