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Post by tito on Feb 27, 2009 13:18:32 GMT -5
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Post by zgembo on Feb 27, 2009 13:29:46 GMT -5
Tito, you are an idiot. Marko's policy once again is that any Serb who is pro-Bosnian is a no good Serb, this bulls**t of yours is so f**king retarded. He can be a good Serb. All I am saying is that any Serb who is "pro-Bosnian" in actuality support Muslim national policies, which means he doesn't support Serbian national policies. He can be good or bad, but he surely doesn't side with his people. And spare me your bullshit. Any Muslim who supports Yugoslavia or who support Republika Srpska is equally negative in your books.
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Post by tito on Feb 27, 2009 13:39:55 GMT -5
Actually anyone who supports the current RS-policies also supports the extermination of Serbs from RS, which is much more negative for the so called Serb then any Bosniak national policy.
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Post by zgembo on Feb 27, 2009 13:45:04 GMT -5
Of course. Promoting Bosnian identity and abolishing RS are the only ways to preserve Serbian identity in Bosnia. It all makes so much sense, and we Serbs are dumb for not thinking of it earlier. LOL. Sta jos neces cuti od balija.
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Post by manijak on Feb 27, 2009 13:50:28 GMT -5
Of course. Promoting Bosnian identity and abolishing RS are the only ways to preserve Serbian identity in Bosnia. It all makes so much sense, and we Serbs are dumb for not thinking of it earlier. LOL. Sta jos neces cuti od balija. Everyone in Bosnia is screwed without more unification. The problem for you guys is that Serbs in RS have choices (Serbia) The Croats in Bosnia have a choice (Croatia). Bosniaks do not. Without being in EU, its hard for anyone to get out to any good western nation, only surrounding nations. The stats tell the story, you don't have to listen to us.
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Post by paja on Feb 27, 2009 14:02:31 GMT -5
Yes, it is true that the population of RS is dropping, but who knows what the future will bring especially to such a volatile country? In essence, barriers need to be broken to unify the populace, but not to the point of one people dominating another. The Bosniak rhetoric always seems to want complete domination, which is why other ethnicities try to fend off any policy of unification. Something must change, but not at the expense of the other ethnicities.
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Post by sweetnugs on Feb 27, 2009 14:16:45 GMT -5
The Bosniak rhetoric always seems to want complete domination, which is why other ethnicities try to fend off any policy of unification. . Explain the domination part, please do.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Feb 27, 2009 14:19:48 GMT -5
The Bosniak rhetoric always seems to want complete domination, which is why other ethnicities try to fend off any policy of unification. . Explain the domination part, please do. Lol ur just the same as uss, We want to dominate BIH because somehow BIH is sprska sve zemlja, u want to dominate it because bosnia is for Bosnians u cant be serb,hrvat etc etc... Atleast for some people.. lol we are the same.. Look at bosniaks in Sandzak do they feel "Serbians" no.. They would rather see that sandzak became a part of Bosnia.. Croats in Bosnia would be happy to see hercegovina with Croatia..
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Post by manijak on Feb 27, 2009 14:22:52 GMT -5
Eastern Euros are kinky..we want to dominate each other and that is that. That won't change any time soon.
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Post by tito on Feb 27, 2009 14:34:33 GMT -5
Yes, it is true that the population of RS is dropping, but who knows what the future will bring especially to such a volatile country? In essence, barriers need to be broken to unify the populace, but not to the point of one people dominating another. The Bosniak rhetoric always seems to want complete domination, which is why other ethnicities try to fend off any policy of unification. Something must change, but not at the expense of the other ethnicities. No Bosniak dominated political party has ever questioned the status of the 2 other constitutional people. Anyway I don’t expect the Serbs in RS to change, I expect them to keep moving- and dieing out until the pro-Bosnian majority becomes strong enough to force them to accept democracy. The first step towards democracy in Bosnia is liberation from the entity voting. Today we are only 40 000 votes away from that goal, it could be reached in 2010.
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Post by paja on Feb 27, 2009 14:35:11 GMT -5
I apologize if I have offended you, but the sheer enjoyment, possessed by Bosniaks, when the Serb natality or population starts to decrease is self-evident, and vice-versa when concerning the Bosniaks. Religious supremacy is also mentioned which is obviously prejudiced towards one side. I realize this forum is not a good indicator of people's opinions, but it does raise concerns. Of course, this is true of all three sides; however, the Bosniaks seem to display it the most, probably due to their high numbers and no outside country.
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Post by manijak on Feb 27, 2009 14:45:45 GMT -5
don't worry, you can't offend tito.
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Post by paja on Feb 27, 2009 14:55:41 GMT -5
Oops, I wasn't replying to tito but sweetnugs.
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Post by manijak on Feb 27, 2009 15:00:54 GMT -5
sweetnugs? you mean sweetnuts?
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Post by zgembo on Feb 27, 2009 15:06:18 GMT -5
Of course. Promoting Bosnian identity and abolishing RS are the only ways to preserve Serbian identity in Bosnia. It all makes so much sense, and we Serbs are dumb for not thinking of it earlier. LOL. Sta jos neces cuti od balija. Everyone in Bosnia is screwed without more unification. The problem for you guys is that Serbs in RS have choices (Serbia) The Croats in Bosnia have a choice (Croatia). Bosniaks do not. Without being in EU, its hard for anyone to get out to any good western nation, only surrounding nations. The stats tell the story, you don't have to listen to us. Those stats only reinforce why Serbs have to protect Republika Srpska. We can be a minority in Bosnia, but so long as we dominate in Republika Srpska our identity will be maintained. The system is such that absolute majority in Bosnia is irrelevant. Absolute majority status in the entities is the only thing that matters. And I don't think everyone in Bosnia is screwed without more unification. That is only the propaganda spread by the Bosnian Muslim elite to justify their national goals. Co-operation between entities would definitely benefit all. But, co-operation and unification are not the same things. Muslims want things to change on paper, which pisses Serbs off and prevents co-operation. It is the Muslim attitude towards Republika Srpska which must change in order for Bosnia to develop.
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Post by tito on Feb 27, 2009 15:18:16 GMT -5
only two visions of Bosnia-Herzegovina’s future are possible:
1.Bosnia-Herzegovina as a multi-ethnic and multi-cultural state and society; 2.Bosnia-Herzegovina as the national state of the Bosniaks.
This means that any policy that the Serbs and Croats choose to conduct ‘suits’ the Bosniaks, whereas only certain kinds of Bosniak policy suit the Serbs and Croats.
As indicated above, in addition to the two permanent forces active in Bosnia-Herzegovina (the Bosniak will and the ‘Bosnian centrifuge’) there are two other forces that can potentially influence the character of a future Bosnia: the Croat and Serb political forces. Their actions can help Bosnia become either a multi-ethnic state or, alternatively, a national state of the Bosniaks. From the point of view of current Croat and especially Serb policies, this choice is viewed according to a classification of bad, worse and worst; whereas on the Bosniak side, every Serb or Croat option can be ranked as good, better or best. It follows that in order to turn Bosnia-Herzegovina into a multi-ethnic community, a radical reorientation is required in Croat and Serb policy towards Bosnia-Herzegovina as their own state; meanwhile the Bosniaks must stop pursuing a dual policy of declaring themselves in favour of a multi-ethnic Bosnia-Herzegovina, while at the same time turning the country into a de facto Bosniak national state.
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Post by fazlinho on Feb 28, 2009 4:28:07 GMT -5
Everyone in Bosnia is screwed without more unification. The problem for you guys is that Serbs in RS have choices (Serbia) The Croats in Bosnia have a choice (Croatia). Bosniaks do not. Without being in EU, its hard for anyone to get out to any good western nation, only surrounding nations. The stats tell the story, you don't have to listen to us. Those stats only reinforce why Serbs have to protect Republika Srpska. We can be a minority in Bosnia, but so long as we dominate in Republika Srpska our identity will be maintained. The system is such that absolute majority in Bosnia is irrelevant. Absolute majority status in the entities is the only thing that matters. And I don't think everyone in Bosnia is screwed without more unification. That is only the propaganda spread by the Bosnian Muslim elite to justify their national goals. Co-operation between entities would definitely benefit all. But, co-operation and unification are not the same things. Muslims want things to change on paper, which pisses Serbs off and prevents co-operation. It is the Muslim attitude towards Republika Srpska which must change in order for Bosnia to develop. This is exactly the Vlach mentality Bosniaks need to achieve their goals in the not-even-so-long run. -44000 in one year of a population of around 1200000 would be an indicator to any sane person but this... is just too easy. We don't have to move a finger for them to destroy themselves. We care when 8000 of our people are killed but they enjoy when 44000 of theirs leave Bosnia, because that is the whole point, they never cared about Bosnia. Once I thought that this was Bosnia's weakness, now I understand it's one if not the greatest of all advantages.
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Post by bosanskinovi on Feb 28, 2009 4:31:51 GMT -5
I've always said that time is on our side. Serbs dont have to agree of course and they can argue against it if they want...but they should keep in mind that the clock is ticking
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Post by whateva on Feb 28, 2009 4:32:53 GMT -5
Serbs are not about to dissapear from BiH but in 15 years they will number about as much as Croats did before the war in BiH started while Croats right now have only 1/2 of people that they previously had in BiH. They got nobody but themselves to blame.
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Post by fazlinho on Feb 28, 2009 4:38:10 GMT -5
Explain the domination part, please do. Lol ur just the same as uss, We want to dominate BIH because somehow BIH is sprska sve zemlja, u want to dominate it because bosnia is for Bosnians u cant be serb,hrvat etc etc... Atleast for some people.. lol we are the same.. Look at bosniaks in Sandzak do they feel "Serbians" no.. They would rather see that sandzak became a part of Bosnia.. Croats in Bosnia would be happy to see hercegovina with Croatia.. This is the same bullshit I never understood much like much other myths. We want to dominate - when we look at facts, not myths, we see that it was never proposed as a solution. No Bosniak solution opted for a centralization (abolishing the entities and making 4 or more regions is no centralization, unless you are an idiot who don't knows what the meaning of "centralization" is). What it always opted for is equal rights for every citizen in every corner of BiH. Never did we opt to exclude Serbs as a constitutive people nor Croats nor any other bullshit. I dare anyone here to find me any resolution of SDA, SBiH to say the contrary. But no Serb could ever admit it because it goes against the "they are all against us" policy. Oh well, I understood that policy of yours is the one that suits us the most.
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