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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 21, 2008 4:57:30 GMT -5
I'm interested in hearing Bosniaks experiences in the wider Islamic community. There's obviously a distinct racial difference with the majority of the Islamic world. But also cultural... Bosniaks are more liberal & European then even other Christian countries. What's it like for a Bosniak going to some sort of Islamic gathering? Do the others flip out? Do they all try & crack on to Bosniak women? What's it like?
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Post by fazlinho on Nov 21, 2008 7:10:12 GMT -5
I'm interested in hearing Bosniaks experiences in the wider Islamic community. There's obviously a distinct racial difference with the majority of the Islamic world. But also cultural... Bosniaks are more liberal & European then even other Christian countries. What's it like for a Bosniak going to some sort of Islamic gathering? Do the others flip out? Do they all try & crack on to Bosniak women? What's it like? Well here in the city where I live there is only one place that is used as a mosque, officially that is our mosque. When I go there, which well tbh isn't a lot of times, every single time someone comes to shake hands with me and at first they think I'm Albanian. (In Italy there's a looot of them) than I tell them I'm Bosniak and they are always "mashallah" like lol. One time as I was reading the Qur'an one guy told me I had my jeans touching the floor and me told me it's better not to do it (it's in one hadith) and than started asking a bit about me and was very interested. To be honest it's not really great there because you see many people looking at you thinking "wtf is a young italian doing here". Also the imam asked me if I wanted to participate in some "youth islamic activity" but well that would have been too much hypocrisy from me, as I'm not such a good muslim. When I'm on some sites where you put your name, and put the place you are from, when Arabs see Bosniak + female name I get contacted en masse. Maybe some don't know that, not even Bosniaks, but Bosniaks are the only people that use certain muslim female names for males only, making their female counterparts adding an "a". For an example, most ex-Yugos don't know that Nermin, Vedad, Jasmin, i mnogo drugih in all other muslim countries are female names... generally other muslims are like wtf when I tell them my name so every time I have to explain it's like that in Bosnia..
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 21, 2008 10:57:27 GMT -5
I guess in Italy it would be different since there are heaps of Albanians there. That is interesting, but I was tthinking probably more in countries like Britain, Australia, America where most Muslims would be Arabic, Asian & African.
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Post by kapetan on Nov 21, 2008 13:39:03 GMT -5
Yea alot of North American Mosques where Bosniaks go are also used by other Balkan muslims mainly Albanians.
But there is alot of Middle Easterners too, and even Africans and there's never a problem.
Muslims of any kind in America and Canada have a pretty nice way of geting along from what I seen.
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Post by vanilo on Nov 21, 2008 16:53:55 GMT -5
Very interesting topic! . Hope to read about more Bosniaks' experiences .
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Post by hellboy87 on Nov 22, 2008 12:50:49 GMT -5
I'm interested in hearing Bosniaks experiences in the wider Islamic community. There's obviously a distinct racial difference with the majority of the Islamic world. But also cultural... Bosniaks are more liberal & European then even other Christian countries. What's it like for a Bosniak going to some sort of Islamic gathering? Do the others flip out? Do they all try & crack on to Bosniak women? What's it like? Why do you say try n crack on to Bosniak women? ;D explain pls
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Post by sweetnugs on Nov 22, 2008 14:08:48 GMT -5
There is a mosque here in Boston (Revere) that some Turkish guy bought originally as a church and then turned it into a mosque couple years ago. Bosniac families used to go there to pray during Bajram but from what I gathered from the people that went, they said they didn't get along with 'rest of the Muslims' which were Arabs.
Apparently some Arabs had an issue with Turks and Bosniacs praying 'differently' than some Arabs do. This is normal considering that Islam that Bosnia got from Turks had slight altercations if you will in regards to what comes first in a certain prayer and such.
Anyway, the Bosniacs I know complained that Arabs didn't know how to control their kids who were running around the mosque like its a playground. I don't need to tell you guys that when our kids go into an establishment like that with their parents and act stupid, they will usually be taken into the nearest bathroom, car, side street or whatever and beaten with a belt or slapped around a few times until they learn to behave inside of a mosque. This wasn't the case here with some of these Arabs who thought their kids could run around and be loud in a mosque which is what Bosniacs were against.
So needless to say, since this occurred in 2007, Bosniac families no longer go to this mosque when Arabs come with their children. I've heard that Bosniacs instead go to another mosque someplace in Cambridge where things are more peaceful and its not dominated by Arabs.
This is just one experience guys, take it with a grain of salt. This is a little mosque that opened up 3 years ago and the truth of the matter is that those Bosniacs simply didn't agree with the way some of these Arabs supervised their kids and uh yeah.. they didn't particularity enjoy the Arabs telling them that Turks and Bosniacs are not correct when it comes to Islam.
You can pretty much guess how Bosniacs with a temper took this.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 23, 2008 9:15:35 GMT -5
I'm interested in hearing Bosniaks experiences in the wider Islamic community. There's obviously a distinct racial difference with the majority of the Islamic world. But also cultural... Bosniaks are more liberal & European then even other Christian countries. What's it like for a Bosniak going to some sort of Islamic gathering? Do the others flip out? Do they all try & crack on to Bosniak women? What's it like? Why do you say try n crack on to Bosniak women? ;D explain pls What do you think it means? It means that Bosniak women are likely to be the best looking, but also the most liberally dressed & behaved. That's my guess. I could even picture them being abused by some Arab.
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Post by manijak on Nov 23, 2008 9:34:47 GMT -5
Bosniak gatherings are basically for Bosnians to seem normal, when we all know deep down, there is no normal Bosanac. The hodzas are usually alcoholics (the one from my hometown was) People are all calm/family oriented, when we know Bosniaks are mostly crazy fucks at home and beat their kids. Basically, its a lot of people being fake hoping to get laid.
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Post by Trazi Vise on Nov 23, 2008 18:42:43 GMT -5
^^^Loved that post lol :-)
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Post by bog on Nov 23, 2008 18:48:28 GMT -5
Bosniak gatherings are basically for Bosnians to seem normal, when we all know deep down, there is no normal Bosanac. The hodzas are usually alcoholics (the one from my hometown was) People are all calm/family oriented, when we know Bosniaks are mostly crazy f**ks at home and beat their kids. Basically, its a lot of people being fake hoping to get laid. are there any other ways of getting laid?
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Post by sweetnugs on Nov 23, 2008 20:00:47 GMT -5
Bosniak gatherings are basically for Bosnians to seem normal, when we all know deep down, there is no normal Bosanac. The hodzas are usually alcoholics (the one from my hometown was) People are all calm/family oriented, when we know Bosniaks are mostly crazy f**ks at home and beat their kids. Basically, its a lot of people being fake hoping to get laid. are there any other ways of getting laid? There are plenty of ways to get laid. Thats just ONE single way.
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Post by Trazi Vise on Nov 23, 2008 20:07:46 GMT -5
Just be yourself bog, a smart lady with notice the fakes :-)
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Post by bog on Nov 23, 2008 21:10:06 GMT -5
Just be yourself bog, a smart lady with notice the fakes :-) mah, no offence, most ladies arn't that smart... so ill be fake for now...
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Post by bob1389 on Nov 23, 2008 21:31:38 GMT -5
I've got a raging dzihad in my pants.
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Post by Trazi Vise on Nov 23, 2008 23:38:16 GMT -5
They will eventually figure you out, it doesn't take long :-) If you're happy with the dumbasses in the meantime, good luck to you :-)
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Post by hellboy87 on Nov 24, 2008 1:51:54 GMT -5
Why do you say try n crack on to Bosniak women? ;D explain pls What do you think it means? It means that Bosniak women are likely to be the best looking, but also the most liberally dressed & behaved. That's my guess. I could even picture them being abused by some Arab. Yes but why BOSNIAK ones? Because they have something in common with Arabs in that they are Muslims. Second,because they are white and therefore BEAUTIFUL & SUPERIOR & THEREFORE A GREAT STATUS SYMBOL.People all over the world like going and doing stuff that is highly regarded as all things good. As for trying to crack because they are western/liberal/sexy dressing,you get that from any chick from the western world arsenije. My two reasons stated above,has been somewhat explained by fazlinho who said he gets "pleas" from Arabs
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Post by SKORIC on Nov 24, 2008 2:00:35 GMT -5
They will eventually figure you out, it doesn't take long :-) If you're happy with the dumbasses in the meantime, good luck to you :-) Usually by the time they figure it out the guy has already f**ked her and not returning her phone calls They're talking about getting laid here not getting a wife lol
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Post by Trazi Vise on Nov 24, 2008 2:02:59 GMT -5
^^^Two can play at that game, and usually we are the ones not returning their calls when we figure out their dumbass attitude; oh how it feels good being a wanted woman :-)
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Post by vanilo on Nov 24, 2008 8:35:41 GMT -5
There is a mosque here in Boston (Revere) that some Turkish guy bought originally as a church and then turned it into a mosque couple years ago. Bosniac families used to go there to pray during Bajram but from what I gathered from the people that went, they said they didn't get along with 'rest of the Muslims' which were Arabs. Apparently some Arabs had an issue with Turks and Bosniacs praying 'differently' than some Arabs do. This is normal considering that Islam that Bosnia got from Turks had slight altercations if you will in regards to what comes first in a certain prayer and such. Anyway, the Bosniacs I know complained that Arabs didn't know how to control their kids who were running around the mosque like its a playground. I don't need to tell you guys that when our kids go into an establishment like that with their parents and act stupid, they will usually be taken into the nearest bathroom, car, side street or whatever and beaten with a belt or slapped around a few times until they learn to behave inside of a mosque. This wasn't the case here with some of these Arabs who thought their kids could run around and be loud in a mosque which is what Bosniacs were against. So needless to say, since this occurred in 2007, Bosniac families no longer go to this mosque when Arabs come with their children. I've heard that Bosniacs instead go to another mosque someplace in Cambridge where things are more peaceful and its not dominated by Arabs. This is just one experience guys, take it with a grain of salt. This is a little mosque that opened up 3 years ago and the truth of the matter is that those Bosniacs simply didn't agree with the way some of these Arabs supervised their kids and uh yeah.. they didn't particularity enjoy the Arabs telling them that Turks and Bosniacs are not correct when it comes to Islam. You can pretty much guess how Bosniacs with a temper took this. Mosques tend to be (ethnically) divided even though that's not the purpose of them. I hate to say it but I, too, have experienced that the people who go to mosques are people who're quite judgemental of others and act like they mosque is their own property. Like in your example where the Arabs tell the Bosniaks off for their way of praying while their kids run around like the mosque is their home they can behave as they like in. I don't like that sort of...hypocracy, I guess you can call it. Before you tell others that they pray wrong or practice Islam wrongly, which isn't anyone's place to say ANYWAY, bloody sort your brat out first! I don't feel that it's as bad at the Shia mosque as it is at the Sunni ones. Shias are a minority so in that way there isn't the same kind of division...'cuz we're so few (compared to the Sunnis), we can't "afford" being divided...that'd mean there'd be about 1-2 Shia Muslims in each group, lol. Of course, the Iraqi and Lebanese Shias make out the majority of the regulars but I don't feel like they dominate the entire mosque. Thankfully. It's just stupid to go by one culture at the mosque because you'll scare everyone off who doesn't belong to it. And quite frankly...ethnic division is as unislamic as it gets: "An Arab is no better than a non-Arab. In return, a non-Arab is no better than an Arab. A red raced man was not better than a black one except in piety. Mankind are all Adam's children." [Al-Bukhari and Muslim, on the authority of Abu Musa]
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