niquetamere
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Ancient Bosnian Serbatron
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Post by niquetamere on Apr 17, 2008 10:20:58 GMT -5
How about less religious monuments and more jobs for the people of BiH? I fail to see how double the size of mosques and big ass crosses bring food and jobs to the people.
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Post by theblackswans on Apr 17, 2008 14:13:05 GMT -5
How about less religious monuments and more jobs for the people of BiH? I fail to see how double the size of mosques and big ass crosses bring food and jobs to the people. It is easier to cause divisions and to steal from the state than it is to solve problems and make tough choices that benefit the people.
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Demonel
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I am Jack's regained insanity.
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Post by Demonel on Apr 17, 2008 14:57:18 GMT -5
99 džamija za multietnièko Sarajevo
Džamija u srcu Sarajeva
Poslijeratna sarajevska bošnjaèka vlast se i izgradnjom džamija u gradu iživljava nad nemuslimanima, i to tako što od Sarajeva pravi bošnjaèko Trebinje ili bošnjaèku Èapljinu. Ni Bošnjaci (a kamoli preostali Srbi i Hrvati) sarajevskog naselja Breka prije nekoliko godina nisu smjeli ni pisnuti kad je meðu zgradama, na mjestu gdje je decenijama bilo igralište za djecu, poèela nicati - džamija
Svojedobno je Nijaz Durakoviæ imao obièaj (uprkos oficijelnom komunistièkom mraku) studentima FPN-a objašnjavati kako je najveæi kvalitet Sarajeva što se sa svakog prozora u samom srcu grada jednim pogledom mogu obuhvatiti tri bogomolje, predstavnice tri od èetiri najveæe svjetske religije. Bila je to, naravno, zamka za studente: redovno je neko dobacivao: "zaboravili ste Jevreje" ili "zaboravili ste katedralu" ili "a crkva na Èaršiji"... Slijedilo bi predavanje prvo o hrišæanstvu a potom o Sarajevu, pravoslavnim i katolièkim crkvama, džamijama, sinagogi i na kraju obavezni, i tada veæ podobro isprani zakljuèak: Bosna je i srpska i hrvatska i muslimanska i svih drugih naroda i narodnosti koji u njoj žive. Sarajevo je, je li, bilo slika i prilika te Bosne i Hercegovine, grad koji se i za olimpijadu reklamirao svojom multikulturom iako je, recimo, te olimpijske '84. imao ravno 81 džamiju, što je daleko nadmašivalo broj svih ostalih vjerskih objekata.
Danas Sarajevo ima 96 aktivnih džamija, dvije koje treba rekonstruirati jer su srušene i jednu koja se tek poèinje graditi, a u planu su još... Zapravo, nije važno koje su sve u planu i hoæe li, kada budu sagraðene, a nema sumnje da æe biti, predstavljati bisere islamske arhitekture ili pak biti primjer kièa i neukusa. Nisu èak važne ni floskule o redu i zakonu iza kojih se graditelji - Islamska zajednica BiH i njezin Centar za islamsku arhitekturu - zaklanjaju: važan je konaèni rezultat prema kome Sarajevo gazi krupnim koracima postajuæi muslimanski grad.
Nije, naravno, ovdje rijeè o èinjenici da je još od rata Sarajevo dramatièno promijenilo svoju etnièku sliku. Nije uopæe ni sporno da su Bošnjaci velika veæina u Sarajevu i, valja priznati, nema mjesta nekoj velikoj sumnji da je svaka od novosagraðenih džamija nastala kao rezultat potrebe džematlija da tik do kuænih vrata imaju i svoju džamiju. Èak bi se (istina nategnuto) dalo progledati kroz prste i svim onim postratnim gradskim i kantonalnim vlastima koje su pozivale Srbe, Hrvate i ostale da se vrate u ovaj grad a Boga tj. Allaha molile i procedure otezale do unedogled samo da im taj povratak ogade. Ne, nije više problem ni kada se usred nekog javnog skandala zbog guranja amidžiæa i daidžiæa na poslove u organima uprave ustanovi da je bez radnog mjesta ostao neki vlasnik prestižne svjetske diplome, uz to još nebošnjak.
Poslijeratna sarajevska bošnjaèka vlast se i izgradnjom džamija u gradu iživljava nad nemuslimanima, i to tako što od Sarajeva pravi bošnjaèko Trebinje ili bošnjaèku Èapljinu. Ni Bošnjaci (a kamoli preostali Srbi i Hrvati) sarajevskog naselja Breka prije nekoliko godina nisu smjeli ni pisnuti kad je meðu zgradama, na mjestu gdje je decenijama bilo igralište za djecu, poèela nicati - džamija. Isto danas važi i za stanovnike drugog sarajevskog naselja Ciglane, gdje su udareni temelji za džamiju na mjestu gdje nikad nije bila, pozicioniranu taman tako da æe postojeæi lijepi mali tržni centar uskoro biti zatvoren.
Danas je u multietnièkom Sarajevu neoprostiv grijeh, antibošnjaštvo, èak islamofobija uopæe spomenuti kolièinu decibela koje isijavaju iz zvuènika u vrijeme ezana. Da, to je ono isto Sarajevo koje s gnušanjem govori o Miloradu Dodiku kada ga nazove Teheranom, ono Sarajevo koje æe zdušno skoèiti u odbranu svog vjerskog poglavara kada ga taj isti Dodik optuži za miješanje u politiku i ono Sarajevo koje neæe pristati da se suoèi s veæ odavno nespornom èinjenicom da svojoj djeci dekretom oduzima prostor za igru i zauzvrat im nudi prostoriju za molitvu. Štaviše, šutke æe pasti pred drskom logikom izvjesne direktorice Javne ustanove "Djeca Sarajeva" i anonimusom od ministra Safetom Kešom koji se i ne obaziru na stavove roditelja èijoj djeci su odluèili igraèke zamijeniti Ilmihalom. I to je po zakonu.
Sve što se danas radi od ovog grada po zakonu je i ma kako nebitno bilo je li to zakon ratni ili poratni nije se zgoreg prisjetiti da te zakone donose ljudi. Veæinom glasova. Što æe reæi da se muslimanija u Sarajevu, sviðalo se to nama ili ne, sprovodi u ime svih nas. S džamijom u srcu. Nimalo nas ne pravda èinjenica što æemo komšiju nebošnjaka ljubazno pozdraviti kada se sretnemo pred obdaništem-mektebom ili što æemo nadglasati zvuk ezana da bismo upitali za junaèko zdravlje.
Vildana Selimbegoviæ, Dani
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Post by vinjak on Apr 17, 2008 17:31:28 GMT -5
How about less religious monuments and more jobs for the people of BiH? I fail to see how double the size of mosques and big ass crosses bring food and jobs to the people.Well said.
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Post by tito on Apr 17, 2008 19:33:16 GMT -5
How about less religious monuments and more jobs for the people of BiH? Actually more constructions of new buildings and monuments does provide more jobs for the people of BiH. I fail to see how double the size of mosques and big ass crosses bring food and jobs to the people. Who ever is constructing these projects must employ workers and pay for the construction materials so in the end it is a win-win situation.
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Post by theblackswans on Apr 17, 2008 19:53:18 GMT -5
How about less religious monuments and more jobs for the people of BiH? Actually more constructions of new buildings and monuments does provide more jobs for the people of BiH. I fail to see how double the size of mosques and big ass crosses bring food and jobs to the people. Who ever is constructing these projects must employ workers and pay for the construction materials so in the end it is a win-win situation. You must be Tito, the economic benefit of these projects is extremely limited. The funds would be better used stimulating the economy long term or adding value to the country in tourism or in the service sector.
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Post by tito on Apr 17, 2008 19:54:54 GMT -5
The funds would be better used stimulating the economy long term or adding value to the country in tourism or in the service sector. Donations ;D
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Post by theblackswans on Apr 17, 2008 20:02:29 GMT -5
How about they spend the money on fixing the bus station in Sarajevo, it is disgusting. I took my wife to Sarajevo in 2004 and the door the the womans bathroom was hanging by one hinge, it stunk and was a hole in the ground and some stinking gypsy was there charging to use it! Not very fitting of the capitol of BiH or the new "vienna" or "prague".
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Post by vinjak on Apr 17, 2008 21:59:57 GMT -5
and some stinking gypsy was there charging to use it!
Lmao
Gotta love the Cigani any opurtuntity to make a buck LOL
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Post by tito on Apr 18, 2008 5:48:32 GMT -5
How about they spend the money on fixing the bus station in Sarajevo, The bus station is the responsibility of the city of Sarajevo, that is why the citizens of Sarajevo pay taxes. What private donators do with their money has nothing to do with where the money of tax payers go.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 18, 2008 5:52:06 GMT -5
How about they just ban religion in Bosnia, that way there wont exist serbs croats or bosniaks anymore.
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Post by montenegrodeki on Apr 18, 2008 6:47:15 GMT -5
Good idea terro, you starting to sound like a Yugoslav now, finally you and Vucigorski have somthing in common!
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Post by vucigorski on Apr 18, 2008 7:01:01 GMT -5
^^
Except Siptars arent Yugoslavs.
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Demonel
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I am Jack's regained insanity.
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Post by Demonel on Apr 18, 2008 8:25:50 GMT -5
I knew you were stupid enough to believe this.
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Post by osmano on Apr 18, 2008 9:06:40 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Apr 18, 2008 9:40:55 GMT -5
^^Atheism is not a communist ideology, Communism just embraced this idea.
A ban on public-display of religion or symbols/worship could keep religion a private thing for the people, which is actually spiritually how it should always be.
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Post by osmano on Apr 18, 2008 10:27:20 GMT -5
A ban on public-display of religion or symbols/worship could keep religion a private thing for the people, which is actually spiritually how it should always be. You should start with your avtar then. ;D
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Zvone
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Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
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Post by Zvone on Apr 18, 2008 10:30:41 GMT -5
Atheism is not an ideology or belief system; in fact, Atheism is simply an absence of belief in a God or gods. Atheism does not lead to Communism anymore than disbelieving in Santa Claus leads anybody to steal toys from kids. Atheism isn't about believing something: it's about doubting something.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 18, 2008 10:31:01 GMT -5
I only believe in that policy for bosnia, no other country needs that kind of handicap.
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