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Post by kapetan on Jul 9, 2008 0:19:56 GMT -5
"First of all" I never said Orthodox Christian, I just said Christian. The point was nations, and races and ethnic groups don't feel like "brothers" just because they are Christians. If anyting that hasn't had any effect. Germany went to war with all of Christian Europe, but then had Muslims working with them. Heh.
How many times I gotta say it? Religion ain't s**t. All I've ever cared about is country, land, and people. I'll accept anyone of any background racialy or spiritualy, if they share my goals, including Bosnian Serbs like Jovan Divjak.
And that's great that you dickride Russia. Keep doing that and dreaming or some brotherhood. Fantasies are great.
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Post by zgembo on Jul 9, 2008 2:03:45 GMT -5
You must be slow. As I explained, the reason Serbia feels kinship with Russia is because they have shared our goals and furthered our national development over the past 2 centuries.
Very big of you to accept a Bosnian Serb who works to satisfy Muslim interests. You deserve a cookie.
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Post by tito on Jul 9, 2008 4:51:47 GMT -5
Like I said, krivi su sami a sada bi da placu i bune se. Quite true, no way of getting around that. The sane people are leaving No the sane people realize that ethnically based political parties are their true enemies and that all citizens of BiH need multi-ethnic parties which will downplay the importance of ethnicity instead of manipulating their voters with constant fear.
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Post by MiG on Jul 9, 2008 12:05:11 GMT -5
^ Why didn't you quote me entirely? It is because of people like you that the ultranationalists will take over.
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Post by tito on Jul 9, 2008 12:24:46 GMT -5
^ Why didn't you quote me entirely? Why should I? It is because of people like you that the ultranationalists will take over. They cant take over since 59,5% of the national parliament is on Bosnias side. All they can do is bitch and keep immigrating to Croatia and Serbia where they belong.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 9, 2008 12:32:56 GMT -5
You must be slow. As I explained, the reason Serbia feels kinship with Russia is because they have shared our goals and furthered our national development over the past 2 centuries. Very big of you to accept a Bosnian Serb who works to satisfy Muslim interests. You deserve a cookie. And my how development you've become lmao. And obviosly he didn't feel they were MUSLIM interests but BOSNIAN insterests, since he's not a Muslim. He wa sonly defending the country his family is from. Why is that strange? Now imagine all Bosnian Serbs had this attitude, there would be no problem.
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Post by MiG on Jul 9, 2008 15:40:18 GMT -5
^ Why didn't you quote me entirely? Why should I? It is because of people like you that the ultranationalists will take over. They cant take over since 59,5% of the national parliament is on Bosnias side. All they can do is b***h and keep immigrating to Croatia and Serbia where they belong. Because you should quote me entirely, not just take bits and pieces. All of it went together. I really don't give a fuck what happens to the ultranationalists, but the good people are leaving that can actually benefit BiH in a good way.
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Post by zgembo on Jul 9, 2008 19:27:11 GMT -5
You must be slow. As I explained, the reason Serbia feels kinship with Russia is because they have shared our goals and furthered our national development over the past 2 centuries. Very big of you to accept a Bosnian Serb who works to satisfy Muslim interests. You deserve a cookie. And my how development you've become lmao. And obviosly he didn't feel they were MUSLIM interests but BOSNIAN insterests, since he's not a Muslim. He wa sonly defending the country his family is from. Why is that strange? Now imagine all Bosnian Serbs had this attitude, there would be no problem. His family was from Yugoslavia. Yet, he presided over terrorists who massacred Yugoslav (JNA) troops in Sarajevo. He is a traitor who worked for Muslim interests. Muslims interests revolve around keeping Serbs and Croats prisoners in their Bosnia.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 9, 2008 19:34:49 GMT -5
And my how development you've become lmao. And obviosly he didn't feel they were MUSLIM interests but BOSNIAN insterests, since he's not a Muslim. He wa sonly defending the country his family is from. Why is that strange? Now imagine all Bosnian Serbs had this attitude, there would be no problem. His family was from Yugoslavia. Yet, he presided over terrorists who massacred Yugoslav (JNA) troops in Sarajevo. He is a traitor who worked for Muslim interests. Muslims interests revolve around keeping Serbs and Croats prisoners in their Bosnia. Right. If you really belive some dumb s**t like "my interests are to keep you as a prisoner" you're a maniac. An even bigger maniac if you belive a fellow Serbs interest is to imprison Serbs cuz he loves Muslims so much. No he loved Bosnia. And plz don't include Croats into anything you claim about Serbs. I'm familiar with that divide and conquer technique. For the most part we've been closer to Croats then Serbs ever were.
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Post by zgembo on Jul 9, 2008 23:13:23 GMT -5
I know you are, you are united in a common hate. Nevertheless, if you had a referendum for independence in "Herceg-Bosna" you would see how much they share your "vision" of Bosnia.
Jovan Divljak loves Bosnia and hates Yugoslavia. You can interpret that how you will, but to me that is in line with Muslim national interests.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 10, 2008 0:13:21 GMT -5
I know you are, you are united in a common hate. Nevertheless, if you had a referendum for independence in "Herceg-Bosna" you would see how much they share your "vision" of Bosnia. Jovan Divljak loves Bosnia and hates Yugoslavia. You can interpret that how you will, but to me that is in line with Muslim national interests. Yes now tell me who and what I hate as well. Such a dictator you. I suppose I hate my Bosnian Serb relatives as well? Heh. Jovan Divjak is an ethnic Serb who says he's a Bosnian and he fought for Bosnia. Interpret that how you will. And plz, stop calling me a Muslim. I'm a Bosnian/Bosniak first. I haven't been in a mosque 3 times in my life and am pretty much an agnostic. Only reason I even respond to Muslim/Musliman is because in ou special Balkan case, it was made to refer to a culture and nation of people not just anyone of that faith. Like it says in my signiture.
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Post by osmano on Jul 11, 2008 5:09:08 GMT -5
About 900 more then 2006, 17000 in only 2 years! That is like 4% of the estimated croat population in BiH. 10.07.2008. PRIPADNICI HRVATSKOG NARODA U POTRAZI ZA BOLJIM ŽIVOTOM Nakon što je Hrvatska uskladila radno zakonodavstvo s europskim, pojaèalo se iseljavanje Hrvata iz BiH. Mlaði ljudi svakodnevno se odjavljuju u matiènim opæinama i prijavljuju prebivalište u Hrvatskoj. Razlog je samo jedan, legalno zapošljavanje. U BiH ljudi ne mogu naæi posao niti u toj sakatoj državi vide perspektivu. A u Hrvatskoj se legalno mogu zaposliti i ostvarivati sva prava samo ako u njoj imaju prebivalište. Graðani BiH, napose Hrvati, desetljeæima iseljavaju u potrazi za radnim papirima. Nakon rata im više nisu odredište zapadnoeuropske zemlje, nego Hrvatska kao prosperitetna zemlja. Hercegovina je naslonjena na Dalmaciju, pa tu rade tisuæe Hercegovaca. U Hercegovini ni školovani ljudi ne mogu dobiti posao pa se odluèuju na selidbu. Tako su im rodne kuæe postale vikendice, ali u svakodnevnoj borbi za život, sve manje imaju vremena za njih. Obièno se raèuna da se broj Hrvata u BiH u ratu i nakon njega prepolovio.
Od 800 tisuæa, sada ih nema više od 400 tisuæa, s tim što su mnogi od njih veæ jednom nogom u Hrvatskoj. Ostaje tu starija èeljad i veliki optimisti koji se ne ufaju toliko u unutrašnje snage u BiH koliko u strance sa Zapada, koji bih ovu nesretnu državu trebali prijekim putem posvojiti u Europu. Kao da su stranci ikada riješili nekomu vlastite probleme. Bilo kako bilo, Hrvati koriste institut dvojnog državljanstva i sele za radnim papirima u Hrvatsku. Dugoroèno gledano, ako se ovaj trend nastavi, za samo nekoliko godina Hrvata neæe biti u BiH ni za nacionalnu manjinu.
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Post by osmano on Jul 14, 2008 12:40:20 GMT -5
Broj katolika se smanjuje u BiH
14.07.2008. Nadbiskup vrhbosanski kardinal Vinko Puljiæ rekao je danas novinarima u Banja Luci da se smanjuje broj katolika u BiH, što je zabrinjavajuæe.
On je, poslije zasjedanja Biskupske konferencije u Banja Luci, rekao da je prirast stanovništva prema službenoj statistici u opadanju i da je zabrinjavajuæe to što se smanjuje broj katolika.
"Problem je u tome što se povratnici ne vraæaju i što mnogi odlaze iz BiH zbog nemoguænosti da se zaposle", rekao je Puljiæ.
I banjaluèki biskup Franjo Komarica je ukazao na èinjenicu da se za 500 smanjio broj katolika u njegovoj biskupiji u odnosu na prošlu godinu.
"Ima više desetina porodica koje se i nakon 15 i više godina prisilnog izgona iz svog rodnog kraja, žele vratiti i uporno mole i traže od politièara da im se to omoguæi stvaranjem potrebnih uslova za život u rodnom kraju", rekao je Komarica.
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