Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 23, 2009 17:27:41 GMT -5
turks have nice history karta you have to follow you grandfather roots . stop showing fotos of arvanitis AKA albanians.
shout up clown only your grandfather have turkish roots I swear one day the dorians will return back to her homeland and than you turks,will fled... from our Epirotic lands
Show the Map you basta...
Who is your Ethnos Illyrians
Present day Albania was Hellenic too you dumb moro..
Where you come from fallen from space !!!
fukkk you brainwashed communists turkified tosk I myself an Arvanitis and I shiiit on the grave on Enver Hoxa who teach you bullshi... and propaganda.
Greeks and Albanians didnt consider themselves very different so in Ottoman times Greeks were intermarried with Albanians and the result the Arvanitis was born the Grecoalbanian Warrior come from Southern Albania to fought in the Greek War of Independence with the other Greeks against the Ottomans.. to liberate Greece
this internet-warrior!!!! you can't even imagine the ass-kicking you'd recieve from the southern albs of the territories you mess with on 'paint'. I'm not talking armies, or anything like that. Neutral territory... you'd get your ass kicked so badly...
I've got a question for you. Since you seem so committed to this vorio-epirus cause, what else do you do to contribute to it, other than posting garbage in here in between watching porn all day? I mean, you saying you want south albania to be part of greece, and accussing us to be turks and nazis is hardly going to make a difference, right?! You should train, like a real spartan, and go behind enemy lines for sabotage missions... or give half of your income to those bollano-style organisations.
Post by monsterofsouli on Feb 25, 2009 19:03:49 GMT -5
^^^^ Now it's our turn to question you... where in the world did you ever come up with the name Epiroti? Where was that name ever used? Was it ever used by Albanians? Ever? Now what do you guys refer to Epirus as in Albanian language? So what business do you have using a Greeeeeeekish word as your nickyname?
Thank you for your time and consideration to this matter.
Post by danceswithpoodles on Feb 26, 2009 7:23:44 GMT -5
Now it's our turn to question you... where in the world did you ever come up with the name Epiroti? Where was that name ever used? Was it ever used by Albanians? Ever? Now what do you guys refer to Epirus as in Albanian language? So what business do you have using a Greeeeeeekish word as your nickyname?
I have asked him that and he gave me some lame excuse. I think he thinks that ancient epirotes were yllirian and therefore alb....lol
You look at the majority of books (if not all) and they will state epirus=Greece. Hell....I am surrounded by epirotes and they all think they are Greek.....first one I met here that says he's albanian.
What’s even funnier is that the Illyrians were the ones who were originally calling the Epirotes = Greek... ;D
Greek Look up Greek at Dictionary.com O.E. Crecas (pl.), early Gmc. borrowing from L. Græci "the Hellenes," from Gk. Grakoi. Aristotle, who was the first to use Graikhos as equivalent to Hellenes ("Meteorologica" I.xiv) wrote that it was the name originally used by Illyrians for the Dorians in Epirus, from Graii, native name of the people of Epirus. But a modern theory (put forth by Ger. classical historian Georg Busolt, 1850-1920), derives it from Graikhos "inhabitant of Graia"
epirus was heavily influenced by greek culture but the population was mixed with different tribes dwelling side by side each other, besides i've got no problem to call it inhabited by ancient greeks or whatever....hellenes were scattered everywhere, doesn't mean sheet, it certainly doesn't mean that it belongs to the delusional sorry remnants of what was once a proud and enlightened race, there is documented evidence that epirus was overwhelmingly ruled and inhabited by albanians no longer that 3 ceturies ago and way before middle ages what with numerous chronicles of acounts telling stories of brave arbanite princes and warriors.
Oh sh!t, they cornered me... they figured out that my self-esteem is based on the glory of a population that lived over 2000 years ago, and that were not even my acestors... poor me, now I must flick through some other "history books" written by communist propagandists, to pick something else to justify my confidence...
Why we think albs have the right to use the word epirot has been discussed to death here. A few reasons (but not a lengthy debate by any means): - Differentiation between greeks and epirotes in antiquity due to language. - Reference of albs in the middle ages as epirotes. Throughout the whole of Barleti's book on Scanderbeg's life, he refers to albs as epirotes. - Albanians having been the largest ethnic group in epirus according to ottoman population census (Kapedani mentioned smth like this in the old forum). - Oh, and when they made the movie about alexander, Angelina Jolie said that she practiced the albanian accent for the role, as they [the consultants for the movie] believed that the epirotes were illyrians.
To be correct, I'm allowing for the possibility that ancient epirotes were closer to greeks (your ancesters) than to illyrians (ours). But you can't believe how easy it is for me to let go of the attachment that I have to the belief that they are our ancestors, if I do come across proof that is solid enough.
But before you have the audicity to criticise me, look at your pal "kartela", and his unbeliveable level of ignorance claiming territories that are 98% albs. And it is in the present, no need to speculate at all. Or others, who try to justify massacres like those of the chams... etc etc. Or hating us bcs... hell, you don't even know why you hate us - you just do bcs your great-grandfathers hated us! Then you go around trying to justify those feelings.
- Differentiation between greeks and epirotes in antiquity due to language.
Different language ?! your kidding right ? source pls..
I wont even go to your other points. You have a right to feel what you feel and that is fine. Just dont distort facts. The only real illyrians are the todays arvanites which are fully integrated into hellenic society. That does not mean they turn their backs on their ethnic background. It just means they set right what was a couple thousand yrs ago....and that is illyrians and hellenes were practically the same ppl. So why differntiate now ?
Modern albanians dont even know much about their ancient language...whereas we greeks do. Leave aside your gentic theories about us...hellenism knows no boundaries
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