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Post by captainalbania on Jan 7, 2008 19:42:58 GMT -5
Bingo, you hit the nail right on the head. The reason the late Byzantine Empire switched over to Greek is because most of the Empire already spoke Greek from the Hellenistic Era when Alexander conquered the eastern world. Greek was the "Lingua Franca" of the eastern world, Latin was the lingua franca of the western world. Simple as that.\ Here is a map, you degenerates.
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Post by greek1234 on Jan 7, 2008 21:29:46 GMT -5
You people are idiots and it isn't funny. What is this 'I cannot accept history because it threatens my countries existence' complex? If you cannot accept the truth go jump history wont be re written because of a idiot like you. The Byzantines where Greek in every sense of the word. Like i stated before 'it was a Greek Orthodox Empire'. As for the other posts. Soft caps where developed right after the helmet. There is nothing special about it. It was used by many cultures and has nothing to do with that Albanian rag you where on your head.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jan 8, 2008 3:19:54 GMT -5
Idiot...before 1800 Greeks did'nt exit....Greek nation have createt after 1800 ...in medieval in balcan mentioned...Albanians, Bulgarians, Serbs, Croats, Vlachs but not Greeks.
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Post by greek1234 on Jan 8, 2008 3:45:54 GMT -5
What have you been smoking? The Greeks have been around since at least 2000 BC. On the other hand where were the Albanians?
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jan 8, 2008 3:51:32 GMT -5
Yeah but after Creation of Byzantines Empire, there were not greeks, majority have been extinct ...also Hittites/Thracian have been aroud 1200 BC (not 2000 BC like you claim) but today where are?
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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 8, 2008 4:00:36 GMT -5
Cultural inheritance. Greek was the main language because the urban elite were Greeks. The vast population of peasantry did not matter; nor did the ethnic make-up of the army(which was heavily mixed). What mattered was what the urban elite wrote and spoke. They spoke Greek, and their inheritance was that of the prior centuries of writes from Herodotus to the New Testament). Just like the language of Egypt during the Hellenistic Age was Greek, yet the vast vast part of the population was not. The same in Syria, and in many parts of Anatolia.
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Post by greek1234 on Jan 8, 2008 4:02:52 GMT -5
Thats because the Byzantines were Greeks. I think Albanians were here during the periods before they came to the Balkans.
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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 8, 2008 4:05:03 GMT -5
^^^ What does that have to do with anything?
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Post by greek1234 on Jan 8, 2008 4:08:22 GMT -5
All the others were mere subjects. Its like saying the Persian Empire was not Persian because it ruled over many Asian Nations or the Roman empire was not Roman because it ruled over the Germans and Celts or that the Ottoman Empire was not Turkish because it ruled over Greeks, Arabs and Slavs.
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Post by greek1234 on Jan 8, 2008 4:09:47 GMT -5
Nothing just aimed at prijesdardanian who claims i apparently died out.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jan 8, 2008 4:10:26 GMT -5
Thats because the Byzantines were Greeks. I think Albanians were here during the periods before they came to the Balkans. before that Albania was here: Albania Caucasus have from found Alexander the Great together with Illyrians like he createt alot place with him personal name Alexanderia
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jan 8, 2008 4:16:15 GMT -5
The Byzantines were Greeks they chose Hellenic language. All the others were mere subjects its like saying the Persian Empire was not Persian because it ruled over many Asian Nations or the Roman empire was not Roman because it ruled over Germans and Celts or the Ottoman Empire was not Turkish because it ruled over Greeks, Arabs and Slavs. hahaha qoute of the year? ... if you claim that you were byzantines, you already proved your origin from asia.....Byzantin were synonim of all nations...and i support your theory...ancestors of greeks are Byzantines (the most bastard people) but not ancient greeks
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Post by greek1234 on Jan 8, 2008 4:18:28 GMT -5
They were conquered people. You make no sense.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jan 8, 2008 4:19:27 GMT -5
who they?
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Post by chalkedon on Jan 8, 2008 10:16:21 GMT -5
You albos really need to get your chip off your shoulder... We live in 2008...im sick of reading your bullchit regarding our "non-existance". We are Greek because we " feel " Greek. If so much I have some other mixed blood in me....who the fuc cares ?!! Im half Pollak too...who gives a fuc ?!! But if you asked me what country I would die for...than my answer would be " Hellas " and thats all that really matters. Are you guys so freakin irrelevent as an ethnic society that you have to try to downplay our own existance ?!!! to make yourselves feel better ? So quit with the bullchit already... 2 Points I would like to make and I hope it sinks in your albo skulls.... 1)Alexander spread Hellenism 2)Byzantines ( regardless of the actual racial make up ) were Greek in every cultural sense of the word. Get over it...and accept it. You guys are trying to split hairs over here.... Kiss my Greek Ass
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Post by Teuta1975 on Jan 10, 2008 23:15:39 GMT -5
You perhaps are mixing the Empire with Kingdom!
Byzantin Emprire was an Empire exactly for that: because was NEVER composed by ONE ethnicity but many! (Were Slavs Greek by any chance?) It uses an official language, accepted by because of different cultural and historical reasons;
Definitions of Empire
1. [n] - the domain ruled by an emperor or empress
2. [n] - a monarchy with an emperor as head of state
3. [n] - a group of countries under a single authority
Empire 2 Definition: The dominion of an emperor; the territory or countries under the jurisdiction and dominion of an emperor (rarely of a king), usually of greater extent than a kingdom, always comprising a variety in the nationality of, or the forms of administration in, constituent and subordinate portions; as, the Austrian empire.
Empire 3 Definition: Any dominion; supreme control; governing influence; rule; sway; as, the empire of mind or of reason.
PS: what the heck am I saying? Should I use: Roman or Byzantin Empire in this case?
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 15, 2008 7:37:36 GMT -5
The Byzantines did not see themselves as 'Greeks', i.e. Hellenes, but as 'Romioi' (Romans). Such was the contempt for Hellenism that some Byzantines even publically denounced their Greekness, such as bishop Jenidis who solemnly declared "I am Christian, not Greek" (quote from Aristidh Kola's book). Hate to dispiont you donnie. This is written by writers who were with the crusaders Byzantines and Greeks were totally one people...illyria.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=hellasgreece&action=display&thread=1198423967&page=1
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 15, 2008 7:39:49 GMT -5
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 15, 2008 7:51:58 GMT -5
Kasso stop pming me.
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Post by kasso on Jan 17, 2008 8:45:24 GMT -5
Why do you claim that Skanderbeg was Greek? Because modern Albanians are overwhelmingly Muslims and because Skanderbeg was a Christian? What has the history of Skanderbeg common with Greek history?
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