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Post by Kanaris on Jan 17, 2008 19:43:22 GMT -5
Leo ...its easy for any slav to read those coins ....even russians Why, because our monks educated them?
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Post by rex362 on Jan 17, 2008 19:47:28 GMT -5
Leo ...its easy for any slav to read those coins ....even russians Why, because our monks educated them? yep
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Post by Kanaris on Jan 17, 2008 20:01:18 GMT -5
What would have happened if they didn't educate them?
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Post by rex362 on Jan 17, 2008 20:35:49 GMT -5
well ..it didnt help in some area's ....look at ex-yugo
once a savage still a savage
300 villages burning in Justinian's time and still 300 villages burning in our time
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Post by leandros nikon on Jan 17, 2008 23:00:57 GMT -5
anybody could understand rex...if only he spoke greek that is...
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Post by greekslav on Jan 18, 2008 2:49:26 GMT -5
could you please tell me how many greek names you are able to read in this paragraph and also explain their meaning to me?is there a single slavic name in here? im not talking about any sarcophagus,its the coins that i am concerned about. come on,its obvious...greek inscriptions,greek names,is it possible that these people were slavs?do you always have to prove your machiavellian character? also,this picture of Godmother,its possibly a byzantine icon...but even if it was slavic,these slavs just copied the vyzantine art,its not a big deal... A little history lesson is in order for you, Nikon: 1. There were no Slavic people in the Balkans at the time of Alexander the Great nor were there until about 900 years after his death. So, no, the people you are referring to were not Slavs. Yes, the sacophagus is important. Here is a Lycian sacophagus, a non-Greek people, with a Macedonian Sun on it. You can not just push this aside and say it is not important. As for the Icon of The Mother of God. The Byzantine Empire did include the area of Ohrid in the 11th Century so it is a Byzantine Icon and not likely a Slavic one. As far as the Greek inscription on that one particular coin I focused on (King Herod the Great), I only spoke of that coin only, not the rest that I posted pictures of. I explained why that Greek inscription was there for that coin only. Since King Herod was Idumean and a Roman appointed King of Judea, it is very curious to see the Macedonian Sun on that coin. Remember: "Data never speaks for itself. We interpret it, and whenever we interpret it we read in our own political stances." Let's all look at the data objectively, without political or emotional influences.
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Post by areianos on Jan 18, 2008 2:54:37 GMT -5
The sun is a symbol of Helios and found equally all over southern Greece. If you don't appreciate these facts I suggest you open a book.
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Post by greekslav on Jan 18, 2008 3:01:10 GMT -5
We are speaking of the Macedonian Sun, with 8 or 16 rays. I do not believe that this particular symbol was used extensively in southern Greece, except maybe during the time of Alexander the Great.
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Post by areianos on Jan 18, 2008 3:05:06 GMT -5
There is no such thing as a "Macedonian Sun" it is a worldy symbol based on the SUN and the four classical Western elements.
Earth - Water - Air - Fire
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Post by greekslav on Jan 18, 2008 3:07:58 GMT -5
It is the name given to the symbol:
Macedonian Sun, or Macedonian Star, or Vergina Sun, or finally Vergina Star
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Post by areianos on Jan 18, 2008 3:10:28 GMT -5
Who is we do not believe - your scientists in Skopje?
Please leave me alone.
..and yes it certainly was found all over Sparta & Corinth.
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Post by greekslav on Jan 18, 2008 3:17:43 GMT -5
Who is we do not believe - your scientists in Skopje? Please leave me alone. ..and yes it certainly was found all over Sparta & Corinth. Hey Putz. Reality check. I do not have any scientists to claim anywhere. And you have a deal. I will leave you alone. G'day, mate!
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Post by areianos on Jan 18, 2008 3:23:53 GMT -5
Putz? Nice one.
I see you are going the right way to get banned from yet ANOTHER forum!
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Post by greekslav on Jan 18, 2008 3:46:17 GMT -5
Please stop instigating. Let's stay focused, shall we. Roman coin minted by Praetor P. Juventius Thalna in 149 B.C., through his LEGatus pro quaestore. Issued in the Roman province of Macedonia. Note the Macedonian shield with the Macedonian Suns:
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Post by areianos on Jan 18, 2008 3:51:30 GMT -5
Instigating, I do not think so insult hurler.
You are well known to crack under pressure and hurl insults [must be your Bulgarian genes]... you are too easy.
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 18, 2008 6:56:53 GMT -5
It is the name given to the symbol: Macedonian Sun, or Macedonian Star, or Vergina Sun, or finally Vergina Star Why is it called as Vergina Star ? is it perhaps where it was found ? “...the site [Vergina] is of outstanding universal value representing an exceptional testimony to a significant development in European civilization, at the transition from classical city-state to the imperial structure of the Hellenistic and Roman periods.” WORLD HERITAGE COMMITTEE, UNITED NATIONS Archaeologists were interested in the hills around Vergina as early as the 1850s, knowing that the site of Aigai was in the vicinity and suspecting that the hills were burial mounds. Excavations began in 1861 under the French archaeologist Leon Heuzey. Parts of the Macedonian royal palace were discovered. The excavations were abandoned because of the risk of malaria. www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Cities/Vergina.html
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 18, 2008 9:00:38 GMT -5
The Macedonian Sun on the Icon of The Mother of God (11th century) in Ohrid: Mm yeah that's from the church of Panagia Peribleptos in "St. Clement’s" in Ohrid alright and is a Greek Religious icon. areianos welcome.
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Post by leandros nikon on Jan 18, 2008 9:26:27 GMT -5
wow!!!this fellow is weird...
o.k,let me get this straight...you really believe that ancient macedonians werent slavs...although you are half slav with origin from fyrom...but on the other hand you refuse the greekness of ancient macedonians as well...even the fact that culturally speaking they belonged to the hellenic world???
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Post by rex362 on Jan 18, 2008 10:06:31 GMT -5
"Macedonian Star, or Vergina Sun, or finally Vergina Star"
we Albs still use for female name ......Virgina
do you greeks or slavs use today ?
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Post by greekslav on Jan 18, 2008 12:07:50 GMT -5
I agree, Ajax. It is a Byzantine Icon, since I have already stated that the area of the Byzantine empire did in fact emcompass the area of Ohrid.
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