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Post by rex362 on Jan 8, 2008 14:30:19 GMT -5
"thats the idea of propaganda mate. Again and again and again until we believe it"yep ,I agree ...You Greeks and Slavs have this syndrome... it must be a eastern thing > Syndromes Anatolis < " The free soul. They still have that barbarian behavor and way of thinking as it's easily can be seen."
why Thank you very much ..it must be our pelasgo-illyro stock... "non-communist society "well to be honest 1/2 of us illyro-pelasgos were at one time in a commie type thing (if they were old enough that is)...the other 1/2 No ....but we are all the same on our dance steps here....
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Post by leandros nikon on Jan 8, 2008 15:05:33 GMT -5
rexo for president...of lost atlantis...
after all,it was albanoillyrian too...and a lil bit of dardanian as well...
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Post by rex362 on Jan 8, 2008 15:14:19 GMT -5
I never claim Atlantis ...but maybe the fyromanians could give it a try ..uh?
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Post by albanesehoney on Jan 9, 2008 16:43:18 GMT -5
From your site Leo...Very often Zeus was transformed into an eagle. In the bible the ark of Moses was surrounded by the flying creatures. Amphisbena the strange creature found in BESTIARY THE SECOND FAMOUS BOOK AFTER THE BIBLE (in Greek Amphi means double) was an eagle with the body of a snake It was born In Helio-polis in Egypt where the sun god El or Yl in Illyrian was worshipped. Source: www.personal.eunet.fi/pp/tilmari/tilmari7.htmHmm..even Zeus was created/born in Egypt? lolol Another contribution to the Greeks..
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Post by leandros nikon on Jan 9, 2008 16:52:32 GMT -5
that was not my point,girlie...
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jan 9, 2008 23:59:41 GMT -5
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Post by leandros nikon on Jan 12, 2008 8:57:50 GMT -5
We,the albanian people may certainly provide links to objective and unprejudiced sites where you may trully find pics of coins and inscriptions with proud albanodardanian words written on them... so that everybody may safely conclude that Macedonia is albanodardanian... and then the dream stops and the albo wakes up and the nightmare begins... www.wildwinds.comepigraphy.packhum.org/inscriptions/mainpenelope.uchicago.edu classics.mit.edu www.hup.harvard.eduwww.livius.org
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Post by ariusaristos on Jan 13, 2008 18:46:47 GMT -5
I like the Olympos Mountain the home of the 12 Greek Gods
Olympos is a clear Greek word pure like Macedonia were, are , and is Greek. Olympia the Mother from Alexander the Great came from Epiros pure Greek too...
No albbullnuts and slavebullnuts !
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Post by rex362 on Jan 13, 2008 19:38:33 GMT -5
"Olympos is a clear Greek word pure like Macedonia were"
its Olembi ..and its pure Pelasgian ..
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Post by Niklianos on Jan 13, 2008 21:07:37 GMT -5
Rex I have to thank you. You really provide me with some great needed laughter on a regular basis! Euxaristo para poli!
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Post by leandros nikon on Jan 17, 2008 17:06:02 GMT -5
www.livius.org/mi-mn/miltiades/miltiades.htmlAfter the Ionian revolt, it was clear to the Persian government that the possessions in Asia Minor could be safe only when the Greeks in the west were subjected as well. Therefore, general Mardonius was sent out to conquer Macedonia (492). His first victim was Macedonia, which he added to the Persian empire. Darius proudly wrote in the inscription on his tomb at Naqš-i Rustam that he had conquered the Yauna takabara, the 'Greeks with sun hats', a reference to the Macedonian headwear.
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jan 19, 2008 4:18:42 GMT -5
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 26, 2008 19:03:21 GMT -5
The Intelligent American's Guide To Europe.
"The Intelligent American's Guide To Europe" by Erik von'Kuehnelt-Leddihn Arlington House Publishers, New Rochelle, New York, Copyright 1979.
From section, 30 / Yugoslavia, paragraph 14.
"Another constituent "nation" in Yugoslavia is the Macedonians; they have their own federal state, though ethnically a Macedonian nation does not exist - it is a creation of the leading Yugoslav politicians after 1945.
When the Serbs wrested Macedonia from the Turks and Bulgars in the first two Balkan wars ( 1912-1913 ), they declared the Macedonian Slavs, i.e. these West Bulgars to be "southern Serbs."
The Serbs of course, ignored the fact that the International Macedonian Revolutionary Organization (IMRO), dreaming of an independent multinational state of Bulgars, Greeks, Vlachs, and Albanians, had fought the Turks for decades. Bulgars had led that organization, and the number of Serbs in the region was insignificant ( although Belgrade had financed Serb schools ) The Serb claim to Macedonia was based on the short-lived domination by Stefan Dusan and his coronation in Skopje, The Macedonian capital. So the fight that IMRO had waged against the Turks now continued against the Serbs, who retaliated with mounting savegery. A methodical DENATIONALIZATION was attempted: even family names ending, as most of them did, in ...ov or ...ev ( rarely in ...ski ) were changed to to end in ...ic.World Wars I and II brought Bulgar occupations of Macedonia, but the Communists conceived a shrewder idea than the ridiculous one that Macedonians were "southern serbs" : they were declared to be Macedonians pure and simple, and the local Bulgar speech was adapted to Serbian typewriters and printing presses, which meant the elimination of four Bulgarian letters. Encyclopedias in Western countries were, as a rule, stupid enough TO FALL FOR THE TRICK;the Macedonians now figure in them as a brand-new ethnic unit. the trouble, however, is "Macedonian literature," since there is, needless to say, no such entry to be found in reference works for the period prior to 1945!
The Bulgars continue, of course, to claim Macedonia while the Belgrade government, with apparent cleverness, demands the "liberation" of southwestern Bulgaria, inhabited by "Macedonians." In this connection it should not be forgotten that the renaissance of the Bulgarian language came from Macedonia, which produced notable poets and writers.
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Post by BibleRiot on Jan 27, 2008 6:23:02 GMT -5
Nice post, Ajax. Love that bit about the typewriters.
The whole raison d'etre for this particular section of the Communist bureaucracy was an artificially created distinctiveness. If they admitted the truth now .... well, they just can't, can they? They'd look too ridiculous.
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Post by ioan on Jan 27, 2008 8:37:51 GMT -5
ajax i love your post, its so true
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 28, 2008 0:36:07 GMT -5
Thanks BR and ioan. For their own sake they will have to come to their senses and start admitting their true identity. If they want to be taken seriously. Is the only way forward for them, I'm afraid.
ioan respect.
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 28, 2008 4:13:36 GMT -5
**This was posted originally on a Skopjian forum by user "ChrisPhillipou"** The following images are taken from the: " Geographical Dictionary, In which are represented all the present and ancient names of all the Countrys (sic), Provinces, Cities, Towns, Ports, Seas Straights of the whole world", By Edmund Bohun, published in 1688. Lets have a look at the definitions of "Greece", "Macedonia" and "Scopia" as defined by the contemporary writer: Now lets look at how Macedonia was defined. Notice that the paragraph mentions "Thessalonica" and not "pSolun". Notice how the author mentions and "the rest of Greece" when referring to ancient Macedonia. Did the non-existant Greeks, according to the "Macedonists", brainwash the author of the article in 1688? Can someone help me picture where the geography of Macedonia lies from this description? It is appearant that it does not coincide with the "Macedonist" definition being peddled which includes the so called "Pirin", "Vardar" and "Aegean" areas - a definition that they have been brainwashed to believe has existed since the 8th century AD by their education system. Now for my favorite part, this is the definition of "Scopia": notice that it is not a part of Macedonia: Link to Source for this gem
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 28, 2008 4:16:32 GMT -5
Another: "Voyages and Travels through the Russian Empire, Tartary and part of the Kingdom of Persia", by John Cook, published in 1770. Notice here the reference to Macedonia as being part of Greece geographically and the Macedonians as being Greeks themselves. Link to Source for this gem
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Post by leandros nikon on Feb 25, 2008 9:37:58 GMT -5
www.amazon.com/Hellenistic-World-XII-Macedon-Balkans/lm/R26XZ3Y0IIWQ8JHellenistic World XII: Macedon, Epirus & the Balkans Dr. J. S. Arkenberg says: "The Hellenistic World comprises one of those critical eras in World History which is, nonetheless, oft-ignored due to being sandwiched between the more popular eras of Classical Greece & the Roman Empire. Essentially, it is that period between about the mid-4th Century & end of the 1st Century BC (i.e., c. 350 - 31 BC). Geographically, it encompasses the entire Mediterranean Basin, plus today's Middle East out to Afghanistan & Pakistan. This is the world of Alexander the Great & his Greco-Macedonian successors--not just those lands directly ruled by them, but all those on the peripheries that were nonetheless heavily influenced by Hellenistic ideas & customs of governance, education, art, architecture, literature, philosophy, economy, family/gender, warfare, athletics, and religion (to name but the major areas): Carthage, Rome, Magna Graecia, Illyria, Thrace, Kush/Nubia, Armenia, Skythia, Bactria, Parthia/Persia, Arabia, even India (in addition to Egypt, Cyrenaica, Greece, Macedon, Anatolia, Syria/Palestine, & Mesopotamia). This is the twelfth in my series of lists of scholarly works on the Hellenistic World, these being largely political histories of the Macedon, Epirus, & the Hellenistic Balkans (namely Illyria, Thrace & Dacia). NOTE: Due to Amazon's limit on but 40 titles per list, I've had to place the histories of the Hellenistic Greek heartland in another list: Hellenistic World XI."
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Post by leandros nikon on Mar 30, 2008 17:53:35 GMT -5
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