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Post by kartadolofonos on Nov 13, 2008 22:26:36 GMT -5
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Post by rusebg on Nov 14, 2008 4:15:56 GMT -5
Karta, thanks for this. Absolutely brilliant.
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Post by Kastorianos on Nov 14, 2008 4:47:54 GMT -5
Shame on them.
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Post by ccccnjegoscccc on Nov 14, 2008 7:29:14 GMT -5
Bulgarians should stop being such pussies. Yes we Serbs can admit that during the first Yugoslavia we attempted to Serbasize alot of Bulgars, but there was also a substantial ammount of people supportive of Serbs or who identified themselves as Serbs. Either way the ones that considered themselves Bulgarians were still powerful enough to kill the king and keep Vardar pro-Bulgarian during this time.
I dont mind Bulgars crying their eyes out about how we fuked em over before 1939. But we had nothing to do with the implication of the "Macedonian" identiry during Communist Yugoslavia. That was all Tito my friends.......Serbs never supported "Macedonia", we considerd the area Vardar and only Vardar! A substantial ammount of Serbs were also forcefully converted to being Macedonians by the Communists aswell.
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Post by rusebg on Nov 14, 2008 8:01:29 GMT -5
May be it wasn't so difficult to keep Bulgarians feel Bulgarians, don't you think? Despite all propaganda and terror imposed by Serbs. Btw, the assassination of your king in France was a joint operation between VMRO and the Croats. For some reason, Croats were not happy with your rule either, especially after you murdered several of their deputies in the Yugoslav parliament.
Oh, did you? On your own, I guess...don't make me laugh.
Let us put this straight. So you started the crap with the macedonian identity during the first Yugoslavia and even earlier but during the second one it is all Tito's fault, despite Yugoslavia being ruled from Belgrade. Right? What a joke. Let's blame Tito for everything, we Serbs did nothing wrong...
Were they? Like what? Sent to prisons in the best case, as the Bulgarians were treated?
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Post by Kefalus on Nov 14, 2008 9:57:20 GMT -5
informer1913 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply I am an ethnic Vlach from Bitola (Monastiri). I am embarassed by the fact this video features a pedophile such as Tsarknias, shame on the person who producted this
informer1913 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply I recently visited Sofia, and it was amazing how easy it was to converse in Bulgarian. It really is very funny how people claim "Macedonian" is a language, it is clearly Bulgarian and the people are Bulgarian Slavs. We the Vlachs, along with the Greeks have lived here far longer than the Slavs!
informer1913 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply Oh my God, how funny! The guy with the glasses featured at the beginning is a local official here in Bitola, come on guys, are you seriously trying to pass him off as someone from Lerin...don't make us Vlachs laugh!
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Post by Kastorianos on Nov 14, 2008 11:23:00 GMT -5
a clip full of propaganda...
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Post by bog on Nov 14, 2008 19:28:37 GMT -5
I tought that this insane hatred and killings over nothing was just amongst Bosniacs Croats and Serbs and Albanians... I did not know """Fyromians""" and Bulgarians hated each other...
Oh well, the Balkans is more insane then I assumed
Edit: It's F.Y.R.O.M under the U.N .
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Post by SuperAlbanian on Nov 14, 2008 22:32:53 GMT -5
You have to feel sorry for them really. They were cought up with identity questions between their once Bulgarian brothers and the Yugoslavs.... They have Albanian influence on the other side and now Greek influence too. I personally do not think they are Greek (Macedonian).
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Post by Atan on Nov 15, 2008 4:26:39 GMT -5
Well you should put as "Fyroms hated Bulgarians" - vice versa option doesn't exist.
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Post by Atan on Nov 15, 2008 4:28:00 GMT -5
The damned idiot from one of the clips still believe what Serbs told him that Bulgarians are Tatars - so much....so much stupidity on this world.
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Post by ccccnjegoscccc on Nov 15, 2008 8:31:33 GMT -5
You just repeated the exact point i made idiot.
One was murdered (By a Montenegrin Serb) and he deserved it for threatening to succeed. As for the joint assasination, it was done by two Fascist groups with links to Hitler, hardly something to be proud of.
Well not me, but my people =P
lol youre an idiot. During the first Yugoslavia there was no "Macedonian" identity. The region was known as "Vardar Banovina" and included areas of modern day Kosovo and Serbia aswell. The Serbs may have tried to force amany Bulgars to be Serbs, but no one forced them to be Macedonians. Infact it was the Bulgarians who used the term "Macedonia" (eg VMRO) and not the Serbs.
Serbs never suppported the notion of a Macedonian state within Yugoslavia or a Macedonian people or language. To us it was just the dividing of Serbian land and culture by Tito just as he had done by making Bosna/hercegovina, Montenegro and Croatia sepererate States while also splitting Serbia into 3 parts (Vojvodina and Kosovo).
Yes pretty much. The first Cetniks were Serbs from Macedonia infact..............
PS> Its not the Serbs fault we always beat you Bulgars in the wars. Its also not our fault you choose the loosing side every time. Its not our fault you choose to be allied to Turks, Germans and Fascists..........You lost Macedonia fairly and squarely, after the first Balkan War you shoulda been happy with what you got, instead you got greedu and started another war. Im not gona apologise that use lost. Seek sypathy somewhere else
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Post by Atan on Nov 15, 2008 9:43:20 GMT -5
One hell of an empty-headed monkey you are ;D! Why you don't study some history - take out how many victories you had when fighting Bulgars and how many we have fighting you.
You idiot should know that if wasn't the Austrians who stopped us in 1885, the Romanians in 1913 and the Germans (who for whatever reason halted our troops from smashing you and the Greeks) you will be talking Bulgarian now.
The Serbs are the most pathetic soldiers - in almost every war you lose - the Turks fuck.ed you up in every war after your liberation - and you were running like beaten dogs to seek help from the Great Powers - the whole world was laughing at you - and even you were the aggressors! Even in modern times - you lost (but of course did as much dirty evil things you could) to Croats, Bosnians. Hail the brave Serb warriors! No one can stop them! Even this crazy guy - Voislav Sheshel was the name if I remember right - warned us he'll attack if we let pass the US planes during NATO bombing ;D! Funny guy. I remember this year (1996 or 7 don't remember well) our divisions moving west to your border.....In both WWs you were lucky enough to choose the right side and the help came from outside. If you stood against us alone moron - I told you - you will be speaking Bulgarian now. So hold your tongue and don't play Superman.
Plus - I would ask you not call one of the oldest members of this forum idiot - I am quite sure he has much more brain than you do.
Let the Albanians shine through your life and show you the Way!
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Nov 15, 2008 10:15:12 GMT -5
Macedonians were different from todays macedonians, they were different from todays greeks, bulgarians, and albanians.
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Post by ccccnjegoscccc on Nov 15, 2008 11:00:08 GMT -5
One hell of an empty-headed monkey you are ;D! Why you don't study some history - take out how many victories you had when fighting Bulgars and how many we have fighting you. You idiot should know that if wasn't the Austrians who stopped us in 1885, the Romanians in 1913 and the Germans (who for whatever reason halted our troops from smashing you and the Greeks) you will be talking Bulgarian now. The Serbs are the most pathetic soldiers - in almost every war you lose - the Turks f**k.ed you up in every war after your liberation - and you were running like beaten dogs to seek help from the Great Powers - the whole world was laughing at you - and even you were the aggressors! Even in modern times - you lost (but of course did as much dirty evil things you could) to Croats, Bosnians. Hail the brave Serb warriors! No one can stop them! Even this crazy guy - Voislav Sheshel was the name if I remember right - warned us he'll attack if we let pass the US planes during NATO bombing ;D! Funny guy. I remember this year (1996 or 7 don't remember well) our divisions moving west to your border.....In both WWs you were lucky enough to choose the right side and the help came from outside. If you stood against us alone moron - I told you - you will be speaking Bulgarian now. So hold your tongue and don't play Superman. Plus - I would ask you not call one of the oldest members of this forum idiot - I am quite sure he has much more brain than you do. Let the Albanians shine through your life and show you the Way! hahaha Thanks for the laugh. You guys couldnt beat us on your own in Both World Wars so you invaded our land only after we were already wounded by the Germans. Some heroes you faggy tartar people are..........wait till the big fish invade, then try and take the scraps that are left. We were seeing help from the great powers? The great powers were the Austrians, Ottamons and the Germans at the time LOL.......and omg, what a surprise, the tartars were on their side =P AND YOU STILLL LOST! talk about pathetic. Like i said, im sorry you guys chose the wrong side IN EVERY WAR.....im sorry your people were NAZI SUPPORTERS......im sorry youre TARTARS. lol Makedonija is Srbija
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Post by rusebg on Nov 15, 2008 11:08:25 GMT -5
This is now beyond discussion. CCCCwhatever is the mightiest example of brain insufficiency and short-lasting intellectual erection. Nothing particular against Serbs, therefore I will avoid generalizations although the gate is wide open for such.
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Post by ccccnjegoscccc on Nov 15, 2008 11:17:19 GMT -5
^^ Nah ide say im right. I admitted that majority of "Macedonians" were infact ethnic Bulgarians, and that we Serbs (Meaning our govt at the time) turned alot of them into Serbs. But your blatant BS about blaming Serbs for the creation of the new "Ethnic Macedonian" identity pissed me off. Either way i still believe Serbs and Bulgarians are pretty much the same people, so many of our greatest leaders were from mixed lineage, and our history has always been interwined. You guys are still Tartars though..................but you more then make up for it by creating Dimitar Berbatov
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Post by rusebg on Nov 15, 2008 11:25:18 GMT -5
Check the name of Stojan Novakovic (Serbian foreign minister)and his ideas of how Serbia should proceed in fyrom and then come again and say if it is total BS.
Berbatov has just scored. Btw, would you show me a picture of any Bulgarian who looks more Tatar than Jelena Jankovic? Thanks in advance.
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