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Post by Kanaris on Oct 8, 2008 14:37:22 GMT -5
Rex..so what you are saying is..that Greece will be an America for Albanians..... ?
If an Albanian exist to lead Greece..then he/she should go for it...certainly the old Greek whores that are running the country now are not doing a good job... we need new blood even if it's tainted. ;D
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Post by Rhezus on Oct 8, 2008 15:15:30 GMT -5
rofl ;D
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Post by adolfmussolini on Oct 8, 2008 15:41:28 GMT -5
^ there is no such thing as ancient "greek" .....better off calling it ancient balkan or something thats like saying ancient America to an American who just received his citizenship 2 weeks ago ehehheheh ^^Another grandpa with problems. You can call it whatever you want the fact is they have proof and you don't so all that does when Albanians say they are ancient Spartans/Athenians etc is show that they're jealous, which we have no reason to be.
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 8, 2008 15:52:25 GMT -5
Rex362 "woooohooo Rhezus ...why am so anti greek and serb today ..?" ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rex... shame on you... genitsare! lol lol You're Greek deep in your heart... but as usual... many teenage girls feel jealous about their mothers lol lol
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 8, 2008 15:56:55 GMT -5
Rex362 "Hopefully and Maybe that young Alb boy that got good grades and wasn't allowed to hold the Greek Flag in the parade from years ago ..." -------------------------------------------------------------------- sad story.... But dont bet on that. That boy feels already American. They gave him a car, a free scholarship and a good home... thats enough. America knows how to manipulate people. Most propably he will become the next president of US.. lol lol
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 8, 2008 16:02:10 GMT -5
Rhezus "Who are those ALL? And how are you sure that ALL agree?!.. I know there are sources that say Dorians from the start were ppl of non greek stock." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So Rhezus... Dorians were not of Greek stock. Means.. Macedonians, Epirots, Spartans and Eastern Kretans... are not Greeks... right? Hmmmmm .. Rhezus... I think we have a problem here... ;D ;D ;D Have you ever heard the word city-states? According to you... Greek city-states was.... only Athens, Ionia (Asia Minor) and half of Pelloponese who were Achaians.. right? But.. wait a moment... Attica is Albanian after following some interesting sources. And Ionia was Turkish after following some interesting sources too. Unbeleavable... but after following those very interesting internet pages... Greeks had never existed!! ;D ;D .... or they existed... and they kidnapped by the Marsians! Hmmmmm... Rhezus.... the discussion starts become boring... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by rex362 on Oct 8, 2008 16:26:31 GMT -5
Another grandpa with problems ;D ;D mmmmmmm remember that Alexander the Great movie that you saw and paid $9 without popcorn and a soda to see..... ...how did you feel or what was your response when you saw that lil part when Aleka asked that one wounded soldier what his name was and where he was from ....? and then he answered and then Aleka put him out of his misery with the old chisel in the rear head vain thingy... This Grandpa edhe 120 tetir granpa i bashkun parat per ate qifutne Oliver Stonen qe ta ver ate 10 sekunda pijs qe te bejet qefi edhe qe te apen pak sut tu .... how you do'in ...?
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Post by Rhezus on Oct 8, 2008 16:27:58 GMT -5
Yea my friend, tell me what's your problem. Do you insist that states of Bithinia, Troy, Lydia, Ionia, Mysia etc. were greek?! Excuse me, Halleluya..
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 8, 2008 16:37:46 GMT -5
Grandpa...ha ha ha... ;D
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 8, 2008 16:38:59 GMT -5
No Rhezus. I agree with you. They were local populations there... but there were GREEKS too. MANY GREEKS! A colony is a colony! And since that colony was WELL ACCEPTED by the local population... and since that colony was not a product of WAR..... then yes... most of these tribes who were leaving around the COLONY... became Greeks too. Thats what Hellenism means. If you have the Greek education.. and your child is a product of*greek man or woman.. then yes.. you're a Greek. Ionia and Troy for sure were so much Hellenised that it is stupid to discuss even the fact they were not. Troyans had the same faces, characteristics, Gods!, religion, language!, city architecture, city organization, etc etc... that for them not to be Greeks... even Tito would be troubled to proove the opposite lol lol Even Italy is somehow full of Hellenic blood. Go for walk in an central or south Italian city... then go for a walk in a Greek city... compare faces... and then come and lets talk. Mirrors cannot lie. Propaganda is good... but mirrors are better
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Post by rex362 on Oct 8, 2008 16:42:40 GMT -5
what are you laughing at greatgrandPaPa ;D
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 8, 2008 16:51:18 GMT -5
Oh yeah...4 little years apart... ha ha ...... you checked your PSA yet?
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Post by rex362 on Oct 8, 2008 17:04:35 GMT -5
whats psa ...I haven't been to a doctor in 12 years ..I dont have time for bad news stuff
....its better that I don't know anything...
when I pass out just have em call 911 for an ambulance I will get my checkup then all at once ......but if I'm down and a smile is upon my face .. just let me be where I lay....its just the wine or good after sex ..and do not attempt any mouth to mouth ...
only dentist and chiropractic for me ... eye check up soon though ..
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Oct 8, 2008 18:09:27 GMT -5
Hello there to all Greeks and non-Greeks on this forum. I have a few questions for specialists in Byzantine history: 1. Back in the 10-14 centuries did Byzantine Greeks consider the Vlachs as barbarian or they viewed them like they viewed their ancestors the Romans (that is, as non-barbarian) 2. Did the Byzantine Greeks consieder the Bulgarians as barbarian (in the same time period)? Did they ever during the Middle Ages consider the Bulgarians as non-barbarian? I am really really interested in finding answers to this questions. I would very much appreciate if you have the knowledge for the answers. Thanks Byzantine Greeks? , dude learn history, never had Byzantines Greeks but only Byzantines
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 8, 2008 18:19:46 GMT -5
PrijesDardanian "Byzantine Greeks? , dude learn history, never had Byzantines Greeks but only Byzantines" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yeah... sure... mate. Whatever you wish. lol lol Afterall... we agree on that. There were no Greeks in this planet... or there were but they were kidnapped by Marsians... lol lol As far as your complexes are chilled out... everybody can be happy.. lol lol
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 8, 2008 18:29:05 GMT -5
Basil,it's up to them to prove their very being.... we have nothing to defend.Our history is written by others in stone.
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Post by adolfmussolini on Oct 8, 2008 18:32:16 GMT -5
Another grandpa with problems ;D ;D mmmmmmm remember that Alexander the Great movie that you saw and paid $9 without popcorn and a soda to see..... ...how did you feel or what was your response when you saw that lil part when Aleka asked that one wounded soldier what his name was and where he was from ....? and then he answered and then Aleka put him out of his misery with the old chisel in the rear head vain thingy... This Grandpa edhe 120 tetir granpa i bashkun parat per ate qifutne Oliver Stonen qe ta ver ate 10 sekunda pijs qe te bejet qefi edhe qe te apen pak sut tu .... how you do'in ...? History is not your strongpoint and neither is grammar(In Albanian or English lol nikka say what??) I was joking about the grandpa thing, and considering my real g-pa's are the coolest peopel I know, I insulted myself more than you when I wrote that, so I am sorry self. ;D
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Post by adolfmussolini on Oct 8, 2008 18:33:28 GMT -5
Basil,it's up to them to prove their very being.... we have nothing to defend.Our history is written by others in stone. I have nothing to prove to you or any other Greek out there so stop generalizing.
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 8, 2008 18:48:22 GMT -5
Bring it back.... it wasn't intended for you.
Change your fricken nick... to something more cool.
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Post by Rhezus on Oct 9, 2008 3:47:11 GMT -5
According to Thracian manners and practics... they did not allowed other colonist settlement outnumbering more than 10% of the locals! That's an old rule.. Greek colonist were never more than 10% in the Thrax states of Asia Minor. Hellenistic yes, but remember, they did never forget who they actually were. Another custom for you to discover is that they did not ignore you, but they did not accept you (if you are not one of them). Excuse me, Trojans had not same faces and characteristics or language as Greeks! They were quite different from you. Their gods, architecture and cities were same with those of Lydia. And you copied mythology, architecture and other knowleges from Lydia. Half of your alphabet comes from there - the state with established written thrax language. Greek stayed 200 years in Lydia, before the start of spreading around the islands in west. For you of course, is more convenient to have another version of all that.. but thas doesn't mean is the true one. The truth always comes out, no matter how much you hide it.
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