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Post by slowdent on Apr 9, 2008 4:05:51 GMT -5
celts? druids? nordics? whats the relations with south americans like you?
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Post by julius on Apr 9, 2008 4:11:58 GMT -5
Do u read me?
Robert Chaurroux for example in his book 'Lost Worlds: Scientifc Secrets of the Ancients' suggested that the Mayans and ancient Peruvians were ancient Celtic migrants. According to Charroux 'The candle stick of the Andes and the Nasca Lines were created by a pre-celtic civilization, perhaps the same as those who created the Long Man of Wilmington of Sussex in England.[1] He also related the white skinned Gods mentioned in the Popul Vuh to ancient Celts from Hyperborea.
My face, my DNA, my race, this paragraph above which I posted in the previous post.
Don't be girlish in ur replies. It will break points u earned a little on that other topic.
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Post by donnie on Apr 9, 2008 4:49:09 GMT -5
Donnie, l see your spinning it with the names that people call you, not what you call yourself. Lets get back to the start.....why is illyrian a centum lanuage like Greek and Shqipetar (Tosk and Gheg) a Satem lanuage like Slavic? 1) The term shqiptar is new, and replaced arbënesh/ arbëresh only during these last centuries. Prior to that, Albania was called (by us) Arbën and the people were called Arbnesh or Arbëresh/ Arbëror. To this day, the Albanian descendants of Skanderbeg's warriors in Italy referr to themselves as Arbëresh ... the Arvanites use the term Arbëror, and they call their language Arbërishte. Pjetër Bogdani who lived and worked in the 17th century, when referring to Bjeshkët e Nêmuna/Prokletije, writes 'Malët e Arbënit' (Mountains of Albania). 2) As for the satem vs centum; Illyrian was never written down. And so, we do not know if it was centum or satem. Certain centum elements found in the supposed dialect of Messapian can be the result of Italic influences; the same influence can be seen in Albanian, where our very word for 'hundred' is qind ! And finally, as our own local linguist c0gnate mentioned earlier in another thread, ' few linguists still think that the division centum-satem is unequivocal, especially when dealing with dead languages, like the pre-Roman Balkan ones, about which very little is know'.
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Post by julius on Apr 9, 2008 4:57:23 GMT -5
I already explained to them (in another topic) that "shqip" means "clear" And was used after ottoman invasion to divide those who spoke clearly = albanian with those who couldn't. Defining ourselves with only religion wasn't enough for us at that time. the word SHQIPTAR honors us actually.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Apr 9, 2008 4:58:37 GMT -5
I postet articles before about Cetum-Satem theory, majority of linguist dont support this theory...even majority of them say albanian language have choosed wrongly.
Iliria (land of Stars), Arberia (land of suns), Shqiperia (Land of Eagles)
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Post by slowdent on Apr 9, 2008 6:14:23 GMT -5
in the end you will claim white soap
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 9, 2008 7:09:50 GMT -5
"The better question is, how the hell you you know what kind of language was Illyrian since there was none recorded?"
See, l'm not going to answer this but do you see where l'm coming from?
Ilir, from the words they have discovered they seem they are from a centum lanuage. The words somewhat resemble Greek in a way, to be honest.
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Post by slowdent on Apr 10, 2008 8:21:07 GMT -5
julius skai tv has a documentary on the origin of people in the americas. Check it out to see how albanians came to europe www.skai.grÏé ðñþôïé åîåñåõíçôÝò Ðïéïé Þôáí ïé ðñþôïé Üíèñùðïé ðïõ Ýöôáóáí óôçí ÁìåñéêÞ; ÍÝåò óõíáñðáóôéêÝò áíáêáëýøåéò áðïäåéêíýïõí ðùò Üíèñùðïé ôçò ðáëáéïëéèéêÞò åðï÷Þò Þôáí ïé ðñþôïõ ðïõ ðÝñáóáí äéÝó÷éóáí ôïí Áôëáíôéêü 17.000 ÷ñüíéá ðñéí ôïí ×ñéóôüöïñï Êïëüìâï. ÐÝìðôç óôéò 22:00.
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Post by julius on Apr 10, 2008 12:36:39 GMT -5
Thnx for the info. Im going to see it and if it has anything interesting, we r' going to discuss it tomorrow.
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Post by filomen on Apr 11, 2008 3:14:59 GMT -5
satem language are irani family, indian family, respectivily avestam and veda while today alb language is cmtum, allso the presents of quite 20% of antic latin words in today albanian language show the presenc of albanian on this land , when we say God we say Zot deriv from Zeus ect ect ect by the way cmtum in latin from que in indoeuropeo ecaton in grecc means hundred or cento in italian or qind in albanian, and seams diferent from shatem 100 in persian, dear Yeni Pazar
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Post by captainalbania on Apr 11, 2008 20:01:31 GMT -5
New Market says
Its not, nobody knows what class of language Illyrian is because no written samples have been found.
Messapian was a Centum language that is thought to be related to Illyrian, but it is not Illlyrian.
The fact still remains that we are autocthonous to the balkans, however and you serbs come from Iran.
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