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Post by Duke John on Mar 5, 2008 0:13:30 GMT -5
Pro-Nazi Albanian demonstration Many people in the world do not know that Albanians sided with Nazis in the WWII. Kosova albanians were worst Sieg Heil! lol.
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Post by slowdent on Mar 5, 2008 2:24:59 GMT -5
julius
I just saw that:
what do you have to give to the rest of the world except cheap caucasian labor? there is no such group as albanofiles in the world and for sure you make your best to pi$$ everyone around you. the only people creating a mess on your behalf are the US that are TOO far to be annoyed later. and they are not particularly fond of "great" countries. and mark my words they are going to sell you first chance they get. it happened before to many of their allies....
the rest of the world expresses sympathy and when the "strong" countries (Germany, France) recognised kossovo's independence they arrived with plans for "combined" investments that will make albs work for some europeans from their own country.
different situation, different mentality. we had the support or at least the tollerance of our next door neighbours. look at your situation and tell me what you see.
maybe "wanting" is a lot different than "doing" in your case
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Mar 5, 2008 5:01:17 GMT -5
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Post by Kassandros on Mar 5, 2008 17:37:45 GMT -5
Teuta "PS: follow money...big privileges... Is it Greek in EU or Albania? Is it Greece which was helped after the War or Albania??? " ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nobody denies that Teuta. You forgot to mention only... that our fight for privileges and money and generally help.... was not about f*king our neighbors.. We didnt join EU.. or we didnt got helped by big powers in bad moments... io order to have priviliges ON YOU or any other nation in Balkans! On the contrary... we are FIRST in nag nag nag in EU to include in its plans as fast as it can the whole Balkans peninsula. I cannot imagine what would happen if you or Fyromians were in EU..... and Greece was a poor country that needed your help.. Thats our main difference as culture...dont forget that
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Post by kartadolofonos on Mar 5, 2008 20:34:14 GMT -5
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Post by Teuta1975 on Mar 5, 2008 21:09:03 GMT -5
I don't know about that F....neighbors thing...All I know is that trying to assimilate neighbors... is the worst thing ever...trying to leave them without identity...when the very neighbors fought for Greek's independence regardless the Orthodox religion issue, which seen carefully it's again initiated by Greeks and keeps going on... Because joining EU means to get money if you do not initiate any war...it was a condition not a choice! Weren't Greeks who threatened to attack Albania...when was it??? In 1997? ? In the weakest moment of Albania...because before they didn't dare!!! Well...I can't answer about that...perhaps would have called Greece "Asia Minor"? The difference is not in culture but in politics...and when religion interferes makes everything look dark...
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 5, 2008 21:58:40 GMT -5
Guess what. Albania might get affected by the Greek Veto to FYROM. And unless Albanians change their ways. Which I like to believe they are capable of change, if not then there is no way most of us can foresee Albania becoming a Nato ally.
Greece is your way forward.
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Post by tripwire on Mar 5, 2008 22:01:00 GMT -5
Guess what. Albania might get affected by the Greek Veto to FYROM. And unless Albanians change their ways. Which I like to believe they are capable of change, if not then there is no way most of us can foresee Albania becoming a Nato ally. Greece is your way forward. . I wish greece would veto it and bring down that skopje govt. Time for """FYROM""" to be given to Albania, and Bulgaria. ;D ==================================== Sorry it's FYROM and it won't be Macedonia ;D .
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 5, 2008 22:02:31 GMT -5
I like to believe that Albanians can let the Epirotes be with their own identity intact and that is a Greek one. Like the Italians do with the Griko, not threatening the Italians existence nor way of life just letting these Greeks be and express them self's.
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Post by tripwire on Mar 5, 2008 22:04:40 GMT -5
I like to believe that Albanians can let the Epirotes be with their own identity intact and that is a Greek one. Like the Italians do with the Griko, not threatening the Italians existence nor way of life just letting these Greeks be and express them self's. If Greeks would let the Chams, Arvanites and Turks be who they are, perhaps Albania might discuss this with Greece.
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 5, 2008 22:05:31 GMT -5
I like to believe that Albanians can let the Epirotes be with their own identity intact and that is a Greek one. Like the Italians do with the Griko, not threatening the Italians existence nor way of life just letting these Greeks be and express them self's. If not then there is no future for Albania, and FYROM may break btw 4 countries. Can you geuss.
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 5, 2008 22:06:56 GMT -5
I like to believe that Albanians can let the Epirotes be with their own identity intact and that is a Greek one. Like the Italians do with the Griko, not threatening the Italians existence nor way of life just letting these Greeks be and express them self's. If Greeks would let the Chams, Arvanites and Turks be who they are, perhaps Albania might discuss this with Greece. There is no Cham issue it's a sham, and the Arvanites are Greeks now after centuries do you understand ? maybe you speak to one and hope you live to tell the tale.
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 5, 2008 22:09:36 GMT -5
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Post by tripwire on Mar 5, 2008 22:32:04 GMT -5
You mean like what Zervas did to the Chams?
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 5, 2008 22:33:23 GMT -5
Read that topic in that link I provided hard for you to do ?
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Post by tripwire on Mar 5, 2008 22:34:18 GMT -5
Don't you ever work?
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 5, 2008 22:35:37 GMT -5
It's propagandas like these;
That will cost you dearly. The Epirotes not only got abused through the century now your trying to take their indenity right ?
Tell me your all joking ?
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 5, 2008 22:36:10 GMT -5
What's that got to do with anything here on this topic ?
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Post by Kassandros on Mar 6, 2008 14:35:52 GMT -5
Teuta "I don't know about that F....neighbors thing...All I know is that trying to assimilate neighbors... is the worst thing ever...trying to leave them without identity...when the very neighbors fought for Greek's independence regardless the Orthodox religion issue, which seen carefully it's again initiated by Greeks and keeps going on..." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ?? "force" and "assimilation" is not what Greece is made of honey..maybe you speak for Turkey who reffered to Kurds like "Mountainous Turks".. Hellenism is a volunterily process honey. You want it; take it. You dont want it; leave it. Dont blaim Hellenism for that... "Because joining EU means to get money if you do not initiate any war...it was a condition not a choice! Weren't Greeks who threatened to attack Albania...when was it??? In 1997? ? In the weakest moment of Albania...because before they didn't dare!!! " ----------------------------------------------------------------- Greece threatened to attack Albania in 1997 ??!! Ok.. I got it... Its that Hotza thing again with the "Greeks ready to attack us at any given chance".. ok.. Teuta... I think its time after so manu years to try to clean your brainwashed mind. Enough.. commounism and Hotza have left the building. "Well...I can't answer about that...perhaps would have called Greece "Asia Minor"?" ---------------------------------------------------------------- You know very well what it would happen. So... thank God Greece has the money and there is peace.. "The difference is not in culture but in politics...and when religion interferes makes everything look dark... " ------------------------------------------------------------------- No.. its culture. Arabs and Chinese have different religions with us... but we share a big culture and ethics. Your passion for money and for being "friends" with the big ones in order to expoit your neighbors in any given chance... has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with the ways you brought up by your environment. You brought up with these fundamentals... Ottomans, Nazis and now Americans can confirm that. What religion has to do with it? You just dont have besa..
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Post by epiroti on Mar 6, 2008 16:23:23 GMT -5
I like to believe that Albanians can let the Epirotes be with their own identity intact and that is a Greek one. What's this nonsense! I was never discriminated against when I lived in albania. ;D On a more serious note, a little contradictionary there arxileas, aren't you? You ask for the epirots to choose their identity, and in the same sentence you say what they should be. PBDNJ is a greek political party in albania. Considering that there are only 50000 greeks in south albania, that's way better than your "modern and democratic" motherland. (try disputing this with facts if you can).
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