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Post by Arxileas on Feb 24, 2008 2:23:31 GMT -5
Greece Wants Changes in UN`s Macedonia Dispute Greece refuses to recognise Macedonian by its chosen name, because it is the same as the northern Greek province of Macedonia. Greece has asked the United Nations to modify a proposal submitted Tuesday on solving a 15-year dispute with Macedonia over the latter's official name, the Greek foreign ministry said on Thursday. "The Greek government has finalised its objections, observations and proposed changes to (the UN) proposal," the ministry said in a statement, without giving further detail. Greece refuses to recognise the former Yugoslav republic by its chosen name, Macedonian Republic, because it is the same as the northern Greek province of Macedonia. Athens has threatened to block the tiny state's bid to join NATO and the European Union. Macedonia wants to join the defence alliance at a NATO summit in April. On Tuesday, senior UN mediator Matthew Nimetz made a new proposal to resolve the dispute, which he said took into account "the historical sensitivities of the people involved." Nimetz declined to reveal his proposal, but a document leaked to Greek daily To Vima on Thursday identified five name suggestions: Constitutional Republic of Macedonia, Democratic Republic of Macedonia, Independent Republic of Macedonia, New Republic of Macedonia and Republic of Upper Macedonia. The name would be used in passports, treaties and Macedonia's relations with international organisations, said the document which the Greek government later confirmed as authentic. Neither side will have exclusive right to the terms 'Macedonia' and 'Macedonian', the report said. The UN proposal has elements that could be accepted under certain circumstances, Greek Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyannis told parliament on Thursday. www.javno.com/en/world/clanak.php?id=125725Have to thank TB of macedoniaontheweb for this
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Post by slowdent on Feb 24, 2008 4:08:55 GMT -5
"Greece refuses to recognise Macedonian by its chosen name, because it is the same as the northern Greek province of Macedonia. "
first time period that the real background is mentioned.....
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Post by Kassandros on Feb 24, 2008 5:45:24 GMT -5
"first time period that the real background is mentioned....." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- thats true. I am shocked.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 24, 2008 8:44:58 GMT -5
I am shocked as well. To be honest the issue won't really end. Sure we hope to end the dispute this year, but I feel the internet abuses and lies will still continue even when we've won. Unless ?
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Post by slowdent on Feb 24, 2008 10:53:11 GMT -5
I personally say wait a year or 2.
all of a sudden the americans decided to resolve ALL isues in the balkans. Kossovo, FYROM etc,
that is a sign they are stressing for sth.
waiting for a year will also resolve the name dispute since the "oppressed" albs of fyrom will decide to immitate their kossovo peers. ask rex
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Post by rex362 on Feb 24, 2008 16:14:52 GMT -5
albs of fyrom will decide to immitate their kossovo peers. ask rex
dont bother asking ...I will tell you
we in Macedonia are ok ...the war we had for equality and rights didnt get us 100% of what we wanted /deserved but more like 75% ...we can live with that bcs us Albs are resilient and make due .....we are ok and well in Macedonia ....things will get better and not worse ...
no heavy instigations ....apples are selling for good price this season ....people are content ....no problems ...
Kosova was there for us we are there for them as always ....including other parts where Albanians reside throughout history .....no line can separate us bcs nothing does but a line ...we exist in our original areas with hardly any separation or interruptions of others ...
and get this possible .....Greater Albanian out of your mind ....
bcs...the joke is on you and the serbs or who ever invented that term ....the Turks divide us into 4 parts and and others after divide even further....
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pssss pssssss yea you, come closer I want to whisper in your ear ...a bit closer ...thats good ...now listen ...
"your supposed Greater Albania has always been there ...it never died or left ....put all the lines you want on it the people and history are still there..."
come close ...a bit more ...
"we Albanians know what attainable and whats not in todays world ..as long as we are not improperly treated or crapped on don't worry ...you and others can zebra stripe all the lines you want all over us "
oh ...change the name of fyrom to Pelagoni ;D
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 24, 2008 16:17:34 GMT -5
Maybe you're right slowdent, let's see. I'm even more shocked on this part.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 24, 2008 16:19:00 GMT -5
we in Macedonia are ok ...the war we had for equality and rights didnt get us 100% of what we wanted /deserved but more like 75% ...we can live with that bcs us Albs are resilient and make due .....we are ok and well in Macedonia ....things will get better and not worse ... Which Macedonia rexy ?
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Post by rex362 on Feb 24, 2008 16:35:46 GMT -5
my Macedonia /Maqedon
MA Ke Dhon
....it means nothing but some funny long guy in any variation of Greek
still when people ask me ...where you from ...I will answer Macedonia bcs thats what my Molosoj and Lynkest ancestry called it
you can fyrom the slavs anyway you want ....but not us ...
btw...when and if the greeks get the slavs to dump the the "macedonia" they will be lesser and will drown in their identity cup of water .....thats why us Albs stay silent on this ...you think only you are having a field day with this ...we are also only bcs what it does to their identity thingy.... NOT ITS GEOGRAPHIC NAME
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BUT IF THAT SLAV GOVERNMENT WAS FAIR AND STAIGHT UP WITH US ALBS SINCE THEY SECEDED THE OLD YUGO
THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A DIFFER STORY ........AND DIFFER NEWS IN THE PRESS.
BUT....they dont dare ask us to pull for em .....bcs they know better...
when Macedonia seceded the old yugo ...we albs thought we would be ok and better off...but them slavs were playing the same serbi-slavi games with our well beings...thats why the war came internaly ...
and trust me ...100% of the slavs know that they are not of anything ancient in Geographic Macedonia ...they all know ..see there is not much differ than serbi mentality ..just stubborn... slavi is slavi no matter where.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 24, 2008 16:56:34 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Feb 24, 2008 17:10:29 GMT -5
"accept them or Albanise him you get a fraud and not the authentics"
you lost me here ?? what ....
Albanianise??? .....no such thing as that ...I have never in my life heard of ALBANIANISE ...but I have heard of slavinise and helenise plenty
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Post by Sotirios on Feb 25, 2008 1:22:45 GMT -5
quote: we Albanians know what attainable and whats not in todays world ..as long as we are not improperly treated or crapped on don't worry ...you and others can zebra stripe all the lines you want all over us
Oh sure... and if it wasn't for the Americans that want to use you, you wouldn't even exist in your so called Albania
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Post by grksdied4you on Feb 25, 2008 7:47:57 GMT -5
quote: we Albanians know what attainable and whats not in todays world ..as long as we are not improperly treated or crapped on don't worry ...you and others can zebra stripe all the lines you want all over us Oh sure... and if it wasn't for the Americans that want to use you, you wouldn't even exist in your so called Albania These people have big mouths and big balls. They only make their situation worse. Its about time these people are removed from Europe.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 25, 2008 10:33:49 GMT -5
nah ... we have been here and will
us Albs have ancient traits ,,,,cant you tell..stop being jealous of our smalll victory
your cousin serb just got punched in the nose and now you bark and your instinct's are confused bcs you think your one with slavi
you love one slavi but hate the other slav...it dont work that way for em
cant you tell....your just headcount for em ....
and if yany greeks here are slavi in fara then I apologize ...its only natural that you bark
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Post by rex362 on Feb 25, 2008 10:48:19 GMT -5
"Oh sure... and if it wasn't for the Americans that want to use you, you wouldn't even exist in your so called Albania"
same could be said of greece ...if it wasnt for the outside .........it would of existed ...
in your hey days you had good sponsorship .....its just are turn ..thats all
you cant have everything one way/your way ...it just dont work that way
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Post by slowdent on Feb 25, 2008 14:29:33 GMT -5
rex
u funny guy. I remember once upon a time you were the village commedian. u stand up to this title.......
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Post by rex362 on Feb 25, 2008 14:59:27 GMT -5
I have Montenegrin mafia connections .....
what would you like my title to read for a day ...? anything you want ...pick somethoing for the occasion ..
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Post by slowdent on Feb 25, 2008 16:42:56 GMT -5
kossovo? what kossovo?
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Post by slowdent on Feb 26, 2008 3:00:03 GMT -5
rex. you promised....
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Post by rex362 on Feb 26, 2008 10:16:56 GMT -5
thats not of the occasion
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