Post by Kastorianos on Nov 22, 2008 16:59:56 GMT -5
Haha I find albanian sounds terrible. Especially this strange "r"-pronounciation...like coming from a speech impaired person.
No you missunderstand it, it is giuche because you cant write "j" in Greek letters...it becomes "iu"...but its pronounced as "j" of course. Its anyway not giuche but glioucha. How can you dare to say arvanitika sounds ugly because its too much Greek influenced. We both know that Greek is the queen of languages. Just because its Greek influenced arvanitika sounds...lets say... acceptable.
Post by meltdown711 on Nov 22, 2008 17:05:49 GMT -5
Lol, Greek sounds better than Alb... Greek is so freakin lacking in sounds that I get tired of reading Plato outloud, I have to just stop and simply interpret in in my head.... everything sounds the same. Every damn ending is so similar that its a chore figuring out if its an imperative, an infinitive, or a regular verb...
Albanian has so many sounds that it encompasses almost all sounds made by European languages with no problem and add some to them. Reading Albania is fluid, Greek... does not feel so at all...
Be happy you have the literature.... because otherwise...
Last Edit: Nov 22, 2008 17:07:44 GMT -5 by meltdown711
Post by Kastorianos on Nov 22, 2008 17:18:20 GMT -5
The ancient Greek language is a masterstroke. The people that invented it must have been gods...or sth similar to that. Its grammar is ingenious, its sounds so beautiful, its so perfect in every aspect. Of course the way you learned to pronounce it sounds terrible...but thats anyway not the way it was pronounced in antiquity.
Albanian is too impure...the fact that you have adopted so many words from other languages proves that the inventors of your language were ordinary people...peasants. You did never ever have a spiritual elite that had to find terms for things of higher human development, such as science (every kind of).
Post by meltdown711 on Nov 22, 2008 17:24:28 GMT -5
Youve never read proper Albanian from the geniuses who knew how to use it right, just the ignorant peasants that moved to Greece... If you watch many communist era public speakers, they show a control over the language that cannot be compared with any half-breed politician or the majority of goats. The masses accentuate everything to the point where it becomes horribly ugly to hear, whereas those who know how to speak it do so in a far softer way.
And as I said, sound and literature are different. Grammatically and literature wise its full, but otherwise its seriously lacking in sounds and becomes very repetative to read.
And I cannot imagine how much more repetative it is today that they dont make you learn all the accent marks that I nearly killed myself with trying to commit them to memory...
Last Edit: Nov 22, 2008 17:32:56 GMT -5 by meltdown711
Post by meltdown711 on Nov 22, 2008 17:35:01 GMT -5
Well my view is pretty class biased so I cant speak about it being ugly or beautiful, plus I was raised inside a city with educated urban people around me.... I doubt Plato considered the Greek of the rural world very fun to hear.... in fact the Lysistrata shows just how little respect Athenians had for Spartan speech...
Last Edit: Nov 22, 2008 17:39:08 GMT -5 by meltdown711
Post by proleteriat on Nov 22, 2008 18:20:07 GMT -5
It all depends on what dialect you speak, I find certain dialects of Albanian to be very ugly, the same with Greek, i think the arvanitka dialect is very pleasant to the ear though, like the song "Ore ku të muar Jorgo sfera, me perposht nga fustanella" ;D
Last Edit: Nov 22, 2008 18:28:26 GMT -5 by meltdown711
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