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Post by c0gnate on Mar 23, 2009 13:46:05 GMT -5
I like the Kosovars. Many of them are brave and determined.
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Post by Alb_Korcar on Mar 23, 2009 13:52:39 GMT -5
The Tosks of course....they are familiar to us and we to them. well if u like tosks that much u must love Chams then ;D
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Post by L0gjICK on Mar 23, 2009 14:13:00 GMT -5
The Tosks of course....they are familiar to us and we to them. well if u like tosks that much u must love Chams then ;D Describe your feeling towards the Chams. I'm intrigued.
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Post by Kastorianos on Mar 23, 2009 14:25:03 GMT -5
of course....jemi vlezer! ;D
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Post by L0gjICK on Mar 23, 2009 14:34:22 GMT -5
The Orthodox Tosks of course....they are familiar to us and we to them. Corrected.
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Post by Duke John on Mar 23, 2009 15:19:38 GMT -5
I love how a Bulgarian (you are Bulgarian, correct?) as yourself distinguishes Kosovars and Albanians. From my experience, I can't tell a difference of attitudes or behaviors for the most part. Well Kosovars tend to be more religious since they did not go through the anti-religious period of Xhaxi Enver, but other then that, there aren't any glaring differences between the two.Of course you have some chauvenistic Albanians from all over that have a mentality of being better then the other, but on a larger scale, most Albanians don't acknowledge this difference. But I do appreciate you playing this game though. Like the local Indian that works at 7-11 says: "Thank You Come Again." this is a stereotype ... in fact, only people of Prizren, Dragash and Kaçanik are more religious (and the Albanians of Macedonia). In the other kosovar regions people aren't more religious then in Albania !! You must come to Istog and Pejë man ! lol you'll see old women drinking raki with a white headscarf that doesn't cover all the hair and a kule ( this is a particularity of Kosovar old women, in Albania there is no old women who wear kule) I dont know for other places but i must say that in Prizren only the so called turks(gorani/torbeshi/albanian mixtures) are more into religion, from my own experience the people of Tetova that i have seen and been there are very uneducated and primitive who are into religion, i do not feel same with them. My close friends, one is from Mitrovica(qytetar) and one is from Vushtri(qytetar) and two others are from Albania, one from Gjirokaster and other one from some place called Puks, we all get along perfectly.
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Post by ilirdardani on Mar 23, 2009 15:27:06 GMT -5
Prizren is also majority of Albanians in Macedonia, especially the Tetovo region, they're crazy after religion there.
But in whole the Albanians in Kosovo are not that big when it comes to religion, which is a good thing IMO.
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Post by L0gjICK on Mar 23, 2009 15:31:51 GMT -5
Tetovars are definitely more religious, I would even say the more North you go in Macedonia, the more religious they are.
However what is your definition of being "religious?" Is it the fact that some women wear headscarf considered religious?
Also Tetove has a bunch of a clubs and many of them do drink, so I don't know what to say.
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Post by Duke John on Mar 23, 2009 15:45:08 GMT -5
Tetovars are definitely more religious, I would even say the more North you go in Macedonia, the more religious they are. However what is your definition of being "religious?" Is it the fact that some women wear headscarf considered religious? Also Tetove has a bunch of a clubs and many of them do drink, so I don't know what to say. Clubs? if they can be called as clubs, i remember very well that in Tetova where albanians lived did not have any females in sight, the albanians of Tetova seemed very strict.
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Post by Alb_Korcar on Mar 23, 2009 16:09:14 GMT -5
well if u like tosks that much u must love Chams then ;D Describe your feeling towards the Chams. I'm intrigued. I don't really have opinions about them but wehn i was litle l i used to be scared of Chams (and Germans Lmao) because of stories my grandpa used to tell me I'm more intrigued to hear your opinion and what relation u haev to tehm (other then youtube videos u've seen) my grandma is Cham...what is your source of intrigue there logic?
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Post by Alb_Korcar on Mar 23, 2009 16:15:21 GMT -5
The Orthodox Tosks of course....they are familiar to us and we to them. Corrected. Muslim tosks are not different from the Orthodox ones, and besides these days you wont find too many Orthodox tosks calling themselves Albanian except for the ones from Korca. kane ikur shumica per lesh
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Post by L0gjICK on Mar 23, 2009 16:17:20 GMT -5
They have one of the bigger clubs in the region, I wanna say it's called Premium, but I'll ask one of my friends.
As for the females, there's plenty of college students around the city and during the summer the place is packed from all the emigrants returning. Not to mention there's plenty of strip clubs around, but I won't go any further about that since I do not advocate that type of business.
Now I'm not saying its as liberal as say the major cities such as say Prishtina or say Tirana, but I've been to plenty of places around Albania and until reading Albanians message boards such as this one, did I really find out that many of you guys found Iliridans . I mean I read articles that would state we were religious, but they were just that, articles by foreigners (usually Kosova was included with the religious bunch as well.) Maybe I'm wrong though and maybe we are religious, but I when I came back 2 summers ago (my family is from Kercova and my mom is from Struga), I came back with the impression that it's changed from the place I once remembered. Places became packed with clubs, kids were doing cocaine and girls were dressing worst then the sluts I see in America.
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Post by L0gjICK on Mar 23, 2009 16:20:26 GMT -5
Describe your feeling towards the Chams. I'm intrigued. I don't really have opinions about them but wehn i was littel i used to be scared of Chams (and Germans Lmao) because of stories my grandpa used to tell me ;D Come on, you're gonna leave it like that? PM me the stories atleast.
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Post by Alb_Korcar on Mar 23, 2009 16:45:10 GMT -5
of course....jemi vlezer! ;D Haha...well I guess I would consider Chams *vellezer too if i was a Greek with Albanian parts
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Post by Kanaris on Mar 23, 2009 17:23:26 GMT -5
I have met from both sides.... Kosovars are slightly more in tune with things...apart from that... they are about the same.
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Post by insomniac on Mar 23, 2009 18:00:43 GMT -5
Muslim tosks are not different from the Orthodox ones, and besides these days you wont find too many Orthodox tosks calling themselves Albanian except for the ones from Korca. kane ikur shumica per lesh Chechen you must be drunk today. ;D
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Post by meltdown711 on Mar 23, 2009 20:15:39 GMT -5
The Cham bias is a very real one. When I used to go to Vlora my aunt would curse at Cham houses since they had the tendency of painting them white, like in Greece. They didnt much like this then... not to mention Chams were associated with pretty much everything bad and thus the color of the house just added one more point of distaste. When I told my family members that we came from deep Epirus, I had to also reassure them that the family wasnt Cham (which I did find out that technically we werent). They would have been more comfortable as Greeks than Chams... Thanks communist trash!!!
As for my personal, personal view (hence my opinion), I generally dont discriminate between Kosovar/Albanian, they are pretty much the same in the deep down ways. We often think one side is better than the other, but Ive met plenty of Kosovars who southern Albanians look like trash and vice versa. In terms of the bad characteristics, they are very much present in both in equal ways.
I do have a general aversion to Malsors, however, particularly those I have often met in America who would rather marry with a Spanish, Irish Catholic than ever hand their daughter over to a Muslim Albanian... hell even in a recent family wedding between an orthodox family member of mine and a Catholic malsor chick he was marrying they made the demand that a marriage happen inside a catholic church... which I found ridiculous since none in my family have ever had a religious wedding. Not to mention that I have bad memories of them in Tirana and historic family bias. Ill admit today a lot of the problems here also stem from Communist era bias which needs to be corrected. Not to mention my views on the Albanian identity doesnt particularly appeal to them; nor the fact that i opened facebook groups where I criticized the over-idolization of mother Theresa and have openly denounced her as a figure of Albania. ;D
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Post by leshte on Mar 24, 2009 21:57:56 GMT -5
You are kind of strange Meltdown. What is wrong with being proud she's Albanian. You had the Macos trying to steal her identity a couple of years ago. Trying to build a statue of her in Rome, wanting to write there she was a FYROM-ian, when in fact her family and her escaped FYROM and came to Albania to escape FYROM's chauvinism. They killed her brother also, if I am not mistaken. Here we have a great example, well known around the world for her work, and you denounce her. Your way of thinking sometimes is really strange.
The title of of this thread is grammatically wrong. It is also wrong ethnically speaking, unless you think that everyone who lives in Kosova is Albanian. ;D Even then it would be wrong since we're all Albanian.
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Post by jerryspringer on Mar 25, 2009 1:13:50 GMT -5
Melty is a mysoginist.
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Post by Alb_Korcar on Mar 25, 2009 11:13:37 GMT -5
Ballist, if you are not Cham I'll cut off my own head. O je ti Cham o ska bire Chami ne bote. Lol. 24 karac probably
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