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Post by myzeqari on Mar 25, 2008 16:02:16 GMT -5
at the time the arvanites were not regarded as arvanites, the term in synonymous with albanites - arbane- alvane - arvanite hence arvanite in itself is a distinguishable term to denote a separate national pertinance, to this day they speak the old albanian dialect, at the time it was very much an alliance btw albs and greeks, but don't quote me, plenty of sources.
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Post by atlantis on Mar 25, 2008 16:04:38 GMT -5
Arvanites are ethnic Albanians living in Greece who were unified in the creation of the Greek state. ============ Bingo. BIG one ........... I'm just wondering why I shold get so much - karma +karma can do it I'm gonna get some RAKI now
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Mar 25, 2008 16:05:34 GMT -5
Arvanites are ethnic Albanians living in Greece who were unified in the creation of the Greek state. ============ Bingo. Julius, Please do not twist my words. I am proposing two different scenarios. When you only include the last half of my statement it totally changes what I say. I hope that is not how you read your history.
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Post by julius on Mar 25, 2008 16:20:31 GMT -5
Do u really know anything about history? Tell me about the population movement in XIV century. U can find a lot of things there.
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 25, 2008 16:46:03 GMT -5
a t the time the arvanites were not regarded as arvanites, the term in synonymous with albanites - arbane- alvane - arvanite hence arvanite in itself is a distinguishable term to denote a separate national pertinance, to this day they speak the old albanian dialect, at the time it was very much an alliance btw albs and greeks, but don't quote me, plenty of sources. Arvanites don’t consider THEMSELVES Albanians at all. Unless you want to claim any Albanian consciousness on THEIR behalf ? The Greek position is leaded only from the social reality in Greek society, a reality unknown to Albanians prior to 1991. Unless the Albanian nationalism knows better the Greek society rather than Greeks themselves, I suppose? Greece has nothing to be afraid of Albanians, backed by USA. It has been Albania which bowed down to Greece's will the last 26 years every time we had any ''different views'' on any possible issues. Wake up, you are in no position to undertake any role of advocate of Arvanites. Greece is not Serbia, you don’t want to deal with something bigger than you.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Mar 25, 2008 16:53:19 GMT -5
Do u really know anything about history? Tell me about the population movement in XIV century. U can find a lot of things there. Be polite or get the fuck out of here.
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Post by rex362 on Mar 25, 2008 16:53:54 GMT -5
Atlantis .,I got one for you ..
...ask em why their so called Greek heroes were mostly imprisoned ,murdered or poisoned ?
poisoned just like that dude named Socrates ...
They didn't fight to make Greece ....they fought to free themselves of ottomans ...
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Post by myzeqari on Mar 25, 2008 16:56:20 GMT -5
history is a funny thing, when we ruled over the balcans greeks used to be mere peasants and the help, nowdays you are in a more favourable economic position, who knows maybe in time we'll overtake you, its the way the cookie crumbles, we have never bowed our heads that though, to state such a thing its irresponsable and shows how little u know, u have albs sttabing greeks in their doorsteps man(i'm not saying its a good thing,crime of any sort is despicable before ur feathers get ruffled, just making a point), we are proud people and DO not bow heads to anyone, from my personnal experience whenever i have met a greek person they're always extra nice to me....not implying that they are scared or anything but i have never noticed any smug arrogance exhibited in the internet.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Mar 25, 2008 16:57:03 GMT -5
Atlantis ....ask em why their so called Greek heroes were mostly imprisoned ,murdered or poisoned ? They didn't fight to make Greece ....they fought to free themselves of ottomans ... Hmmm.... obvious. And after they freed themselves they would all climb into the trees and eat bananas until the end of time. It would be better than the garden of eve.
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Post by julius on Mar 25, 2008 16:59:12 GMT -5
Do u really know anything about history? Tell me about the population movement in XIV century. U can find a lot of things there. Be polite or get the f**k out of here. Im being very polite. I just questioned ur knowledge in history, about the population movement in XIV century. In a very polite way. refrasing: May u tell me about the population movement in Balkan in the XIV century?
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Mar 25, 2008 17:00:32 GMT -5
"its the way the cookie crumbles,"
Greeks know this first hand. Overtake us? I will just forget that you said that. Your sitting in your nice little bedroom in Canada right now, so don't get carried away. Greeks will help you prosper if you guys just do what they say and listen.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Mar 25, 2008 17:02:18 GMT -5
Be polite or get the f**k out of here. Im being very polite. I just questioned ur knowledge in history, about the population movement in XIV century. In a very polite way. refrasing: May u tell me about the population movement in Balkan in the XIV century? Nope, I don't care to discuss anything with condescending pricks.
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Post by rex362 on Mar 25, 2008 17:02:39 GMT -5
Greeks will help you prosper if you guys just do what they say and listen.
oooooh ...I cant wait ....but in the meantime recognize Kosova just to see and prove some good will ....
why dontchya ?
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Mar 25, 2008 17:07:34 GMT -5
Greeks will help you prosper if you guys just do what they say and listen.oooooh ...I cant wait ....but in the meantime recognize Kosova just to see and prove some good will .... why dontchya ? Greece will recognize Kosovo. Just listen and do what they say and you'll be fine. Albania's future is bright.
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 25, 2008 17:14:22 GMT -5
Why do I smell a couple of Fyromians ki$$ing Alb a$$es ? Fyromians pretending to be Albs these days perhaps ? Well the Albs have more culture then you Fyromians that's for sure ;D
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Post by myzeqari on Mar 25, 2008 17:24:12 GMT -5
"its the way the cookie crumbles," Greeks know this first hand. Overtake us? I will just forget that you said that. Your sitting in your nice little bedroom in Canada right now, so don't get carried away. Greeks will help you prosper if you guys just do what they say and listen. u tried to assimilate and it didn't work, we had all our neighbours trying to take bites off us(hiena reference) and we still rose up, we had the whole west chopping us up limb by limb and didn't work bringin our spirits down, we are the comeback kids man!!! we're here to stay so don't count us out, we're the proverbial truth that can not be silenced, impossible is nothing!!!!!! ....when u're alb that is mate, pls man, canada? don't fucking insult me, if i wanted to rot in all consuming comfortably numb tranquility, i'd move to canada or us.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Mar 25, 2008 17:25:49 GMT -5
Where do you rot at?
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Mar 25, 2008 17:26:27 GMT -5
The Greeks rose up. Just a little quicker and more efficiently than you guys did.
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Post by myzeqari on Mar 25, 2008 17:27:59 GMT -5
i told u i do not reside in the same shithole as you(and i don' mean ur native land)
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Post by myzeqari on Mar 25, 2008 17:29:04 GMT -5
The Greeks rose up. Just a little quicker and more efficiently than you guys did. yea, u levereged off ur backsttabing ways, GREK O MASKARA!
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