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Post by macmako on Jan 7, 2009 12:35:13 GMT -5
How does the title of this thread correlate with the lie concerning this love story?
This fabricated story by this idiot is completely separate from the number of Jews murdered during the Nazi Reign.
Unless the ignoramicus extremicus that posted this is trying to say if this story was a lie, the number of Jews murdered was a lie.
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Post by Kastorianos on Jan 7, 2009 13:29:37 GMT -5
No its not only the Germans that disliked them.....anti-semitism among all European peoples is well documented. How else should the Nazis have killed so many Jews? Their origin is not written on their forehead. It was non-Jews that fingered the Jews to the Germans.
And please...you cannot compare the Greek merchants with the Jewish ones. I cant say anything about the Phoenicians but Homer was probably right...Phoenicians were Semites as well..lol. Greeks were not hated by the Turks for being rich merchants. Never. We are no parasitic people, never have been, never will be.
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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 7, 2009 13:33:04 GMT -5
Yea, because of religious reasons.
Nazi syndrome still present among modern Germans I see... So thats what Jews are huh? parasites?
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Post by Kastorianos on Jan 7, 2009 13:41:11 GMT -5
I dont believe it was only due to that. Its no chance that there are sayings that talk of Jews if they are about usury and exploitation. I dont say their way of trading justifies their extinction..no..money is not worth exterminating a whole people...but please dont tell me all these sayings are absolutely wrong and dont contain a grain of truth.
Many merchants among them yes. But what we definitely can say is that they are not something special...you feel way too familiar with them...thats strange. Im sure you see the negative sides of them as well...you just dont want to admit it.
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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 7, 2009 14:03:47 GMT -5
I dont have to admit anything, it was the jealousy of the Europeans that caused it. They didnt like that somebody could still be successful while they were poor. This matched with a historical antagonism based off of religion. (Like I said, look at the Rhine massacres)
I like Jews because I see them as an example of perseverance, they today hold as much as 21% of all the worlds wealth, yet remain among the most disliked people in the world. Why are they hated? Because they organized themselves and saw the potential in that? I went to a synagogue a long while back with a friend out of poor curiosity. I cant say that i have ever been to a bigger congregation of intellectuals. Go to an Arab mosque and all you will hear is "Jewish devil", go to a synagogue and you will hear interesting dialogues, critics and supporters, everything. All angles of an issue will be discussed. I have not seen anything like that anywhere.
They cling to their identity more so than anybody else, a Turkish kid I know made a very very good comment about them: "They are assimilated by all, yet no one can assimilate them." They can blend in their respective society perfectly yet maintain their own respective culture and people. Its genius.
I mean look at this:
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Post by Kastorianos on Jan 7, 2009 17:07:52 GMT -5
Ok. Lets put it together.
They are intelligent people and not backward and primitive like arabs for example, they hold 21% of worlds wealth, they can not be assimilated, what means they are very conscious of their identity, history, past and position in this world. They form in this way a unique community.
I agree with you. They are much more educated people. I joined an arab group in the internet some days ago...and discussed with them about Israel. Some days later I left the group...it was insufferable..so many stupid, primitive, unobjective people...every second sentence was "Allah will punish you"..I dont like that kind of people. Jews are mentally clearly more developed.
But...I also believe...if you are educated and intelligent...you also have more responsibility. The Jews (and I generalize here, because they are such a close community) do nothing for other humans, only for themselves. Independendly from what others have done to them. They have never ever done anything that could adjust their alleged unjustified bad reputation. They hold a great part of earth's wealth, yet there is no single greater jewish aid organization.
This reflects their mentality...they are fixated on themselves only. Thats also why their merchants have the bad reputation of being unscrupulous. They consider at best only their own people. Same goes for their communities. They want to get but hardly give. They like to be seen as victims. In this position they can easier hide their factual responsibility. Not only in Palestine but in the whole world.
They got this gift of being enlightened people...and they can be called a successfull people as a whole...but all the fascination and admiration you can develope for them because of that...simply pales if you realize what they are doing with this gift. Perhaps I also think in a too christian way. But God (if he exists) didnt make Jews and non-Jews, he made humans. But sometimes I think the Jews are not quite aware of that fact.
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Post by captainalbania on Jan 7, 2009 17:13:26 GMT -5
^ Like i said, parasites, dopplegangers, liars, thieves.
Israel cannot survive without half of Jews living outside it's borders sucking other countries dry and procuring donations for the motherland.
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Post by albquietman on Jan 7, 2009 23:29:15 GMT -5
Ok. Lets put it together. They are intelligent people and not backward and primitive like arabs for example, they hold 21% of worlds wealth, they can not be assimilated, what means they are very conscious of their identity, history, past and position in this world. They form in this way a unique community. I agree with you. They are much more educated people. I joined an arab group in the internet some days ago...and discussed with them about Israel. Some days later I left the group...it was insufferable..so many stupid, primitive, unobjective people...every second sentence was "Allah will punish you"..I dont like that kind of people. Jews are mentally clearly more developed. But...I also believe...if you are educated and intelligent...you also have more responsibility. The Jews (and I generalize here, because they are such a close community) do nothing for other humans, only for themselves. Independendly from what others have done to them. They have never ever done anything that could adjust their alleged unjustified bad reputation. They hold a great part of earth's wealth, yet there is no single greater jewish aid organization. This reflects their mentality...they are fixated on themselves only. Thats also why their merchants have the bad reputation of being unscrupulous. They consider at best only their own people. Same goes for their communities. They want to get but hardly give. They like to be seen as victims. In this position they can easier hide their factual responsibility. Not only in Palestine but in the whole world. They got this gift of being enlightened people...and they can be called a successfull people as a whole...but all the fascination and admiration you can develope for them because of that...simply pales if you realize what they are doing with this gift. Perhaps I also think in a too christian way. But God (if he exists) didnt make Jews and non-Jews, he made humans. But sometimes I think the Jews are not quite aware of that fact. Well said Kastorianos, I agree with you...
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Post by adolfkarderi on Jan 7, 2009 23:43:41 GMT -5
Kastorianos your attitude towards Jews is very ignorant, primitive and probebly illegal in Germany. I've met plenty of Jews and they're not all waht youre making them out to be. Also theres a different between Jews and Zionists. Whats happening to the Palestinians is a tragedy but youre getting ahead of yourself. Also, i've been invited to groups wehere more then 50% of the members are Arabs and i have yet to leave cause theyre cool peeps so youre wrong about Arabs too but tehn again me and a Serb dude are teh only balkanians chill enough to part of tehir "crew" so maybe taht says something about us lol.
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Post by macmako on Jan 7, 2009 23:47:16 GMT -5
Ok. Lets put it together. They are intelligent people and not backward and primitive like arabs for example, they hold 21% of worlds wealth, they can not be assimilated, what means they are very conscious of their identity, history, past and position in this world. They form in this way a unique community. I agree with you. They are much more educated people. I joined an arab group in the internet some days ago...and discussed with them about Israel. Some days later I left the group...it was insufferable..so many stupid, primitive, unobjective people...every second sentence was "Allah will punish you"..I dont like that kind of people. Jews are mentally clearly more developed. But...I also believe...if you are educated and intelligent...you also have more responsibility. The Jews (and I generalize here, because they are such a close community) do nothing for other humans, only for themselves. Independendly from what others have done to them. They have never ever done anything that could adjust their alleged unjustified bad reputation. They hold a great part of earth's wealth, yet there is no single greater jewish aid organization. This reflects their mentality...they are fixated on themselves only. Thats also why their merchants have the bad reputation of being unscrupulous. They consider at best only their own people. Same goes for their communities. They want to get but hardly give. They like to be seen as victims. In this position they can easier hide their factual responsibility. Not only in Palestine but in the whole world. They got this gift of being enlightened people...and they can be called a successfull people as a whole...but all the fascination and admiration you can develope for them because of that...simply pales if you realize what they are doing with this gift. Perhaps I also think in a too christian way. But God (if he exists) didnt make Jews and non-Jews, he made humans. But sometimes I think the Jews are not quite aware of that fact. After reading your post, I would have to agree with you, except that the Reform Jews of all nationalities are not that self-centered as the Orthodox Jews. I can also say I know one Hasidic Rabbi that goes againest the grain. We are good friends and he helps everyone around him that needs help, Jews, Christians and Muslims alike. He alone understands that all faiths respect and tolerate other faiths. So 99.9% of the others only help themselves. You also describe a sect in America called the Amish. But that's funny. They do not practice Judaism.
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Post by malsor4life on Jan 7, 2009 23:54:05 GMT -5
I came to the same conclusion, people hate Jews out of sheer jelousy. Sounds simplistic, but true.
In all four corners of the globe, wherever they've gone and go they are succesful---this in spite of being the most persecuted group of people for the last 2000 years. They have survived horrific oppresion and managed to accomplish so much.
Why hate them, cuz they're smart ? rich ? Thats retarded, jealousy gets you nowhere in life. I dont hate them, i praise them. Good for them !
I wish Albanians looked out for eachother like they do.
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Post by macmako on Jan 7, 2009 23:59:47 GMT -5
Kastorianos your attitude towards Jews is very ignorant, primitive and probebly illegal in Germany. I've met plenty of Jews and they're not all waht youre making them out to be. Also theres a different between Jews and Zionists. Whats happening to the Palestinians is a tragedy but youre getting ahead of yourself. Also, i've been invited to groups wehere more then 50% of the members are Arabs and i have yet to leave cause theyre cool peeps so youre wrong about Arabs too but tehn again me and a Serb dude are teh only balkanians chill enough to part of tehir "crew" so maybe taht says something about us lol. He does not count on those that have met so many kinds of people and looks at what is inside their hearts than deciding that certain people are bad because they practice Judaism or Islam. I have been in restaurants where I was the only Gentile (no Jews either) and had no issues with anyone. I was in a Turkish restaurant in Germany recently where they knew who I was. No issues again. Matter of fact, we all had a little party and a little bit too much raki. So I am not understanding where all this negativity toward Muslims and Jews are coming from. Most likely, they do not know why they do not like them.
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Post by donnie on Jan 8, 2009 0:01:12 GMT -5
Parasitic behaviour is nothing to be proud of. Thats why they were kicked out of every country that was stupid enough to harbour them. How are they parasitic? Jews, wherever they were present, contributed to local cultures in a variety of ways. Take a concrete example; the Noble Prize. If I am not mistaken, roughly 1/3 have gone to individuals of Jewish origins. A majority of these worked and lived outside Israel, meaning that they won their prizes in the name of the host countries they lived in. That is very contributing, and not just to the host country, but to the world as a whole. Kastorianos wrote, On what do you base this assumption Kastorianos? All their inventions and contributions within science, litterature, art etc, are contributions to humanity. George Soros is a Jew for example who has made a name for himself not only as one of the most if not the most successful speculator in the history of economics, but also as a dedicated man who has engaged greatly in the assistance of transitional and developing countries of the Third World.
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Post by Kanaris on Jan 8, 2009 0:07:48 GMT -5
Usually uneducated people hate Jews cause they know someone who hates them. Most people don't really know why they hate them.... It's an inherited type of animosity. I have Jewish friends (mostly Israelis) ... and we get along just fine..they completely understand my culture and vice versa... we are very close in this fashion.
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Post by malsor4life on Jan 8, 2009 0:11:54 GMT -5
^ I am uneducated and dont hate Jews lol
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Post by Kanaris on Jan 8, 2009 0:16:36 GMT -5
Don't flatter yourself.
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Post by kapetan on Jan 8, 2009 4:05:34 GMT -5
Actualy most "famous" Jew haters are educated as hell.
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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 8, 2009 4:18:53 GMT -5
Many of them were jealous of jewish success as well. Americans going to Harvard for instance wanted to place a limit on the level of Jews the school should admit since Jewish attendance to that University was/remains so high...
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Post by Kastorianos on Jan 8, 2009 4:49:20 GMT -5
Can you give specific examples for humanitarian inventions? Please dont come up with speculations...in these times...thats ridiculous. Such speculations are responsible for our global crisis, how many people will lose o have already lost their jobs because of such people...and...where are the aid organizations? Where? They would have the means.
Of course there are also ordinary living jewish people...but you will find them usually in Israel. We have a synagogue here you know they help only Jews...if a dosser would ask for help...he would at best unwillingly get something to eat...I have been there as well...they like to talk about themselves. Their intelligent people, education, their suffering. But they somewhat do never mention other people. Why is that? When I go to our church...our pope is actually talking about other people only...what we can do for others...and not...how great or suffering we are...
You know...if the system you are living in...allows you and your people to become prosperous...you shouldnt moan at that...because in this case you seem to do it only in order to hide something. I say it again, they have a lot of responsibility but (as community) they dont fulfil it. Thats their mentality we cannot change it..
I dont say the world shall hate them...but spare me your ignorant admiration for them. Its just stupid...
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Post by macmako on Jan 8, 2009 10:39:23 GMT -5
Many of them were jealous of jewish success as well. Americans going to Harvard for instance wanted to place a limit on the level of Jews the school should admit since Jewish attendance to that University was/remains so high... Christians are overwhelmingly the majority at Harvard. Intelligence gets you in Harvard, not the religion that you practice. Religion has no bearing on how intelligent you may be.
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