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Post by greek1234 on Jan 6, 2009 8:30:54 GMT -5
so they are helping us unconditionally....surely we oughta praise them for that? Helping? ;D Use your brain they are just using you to cause trouble amongst their enemies or i should say freinds of rivals (Serbs & Russians). When the time comes they will abandon you to die.
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Post by libofshe on Jan 6, 2009 10:32:12 GMT -5
come on son, we survived thousands of years in amongts wolfes that plotted and schemed for our downfall, we survived empires and the second world way.....i think we fancy our chances ok?
would it not make more sense to befriend and entice away from russians greece and serbia? who happen to be christians? truth is they realised your history is full of shit and you are by enlange an intolerant society so far up your own asses they left you to rot, look what happened to serbia once they turned their back against their close allies? look what's happening in greece, and if i'm not mistaken, america has stepped in to help the russian when they were starving for food countless times so don't give all this crap about american agenda against russia,
i do hope that america never collapses though, because, even with their shortcomings they are by far a fairer nation and more moderate than greece, serbia and russia.....can you imagine a world ruled by your nations? god, you would have ethnicly cleansed it a long time ago.
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Post by Kanaris on Jan 6, 2009 11:26:51 GMT -5
You have survived alright.. now you can enjoy the spoils of that success.
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Post by libofshe on Jan 6, 2009 12:01:37 GMT -5
according to your cleverly disguised sarcasm, we would have been better off extint
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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 6, 2009 13:03:20 GMT -5
The poor Albanians think the Americans give a crap about Albania. Use your brain what does Albania have to offer America? The answer is nothing. A beachhead into the Balkans. Yea, so much... like by making the Ukraine threaten to block its own oil... What does it say when your second state isnt even following your orders?
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Post by Kassandros on Jan 6, 2009 14:57:15 GMT -5
libofshe "i do hope that america never collapses though, because, even with their shortcomings they are by far a fairer nation and more moderate than greece, serbia and russia.....can you imagine a world ruled by your nations? god, you would have ethnicly cleansed it a long time ago. " ------------------------------------------------------------ We speak about the same America who whipes out the half of Palestinian race now that we are talking?! The ones who starts again the cold war by putting missiles all around Russia and made Russia invade to their friends the "Georgians"... and they were just watching?! The ones, and the ONLY ones in the world, who used the atomic bomb on innocent civilians in Japan.. without a need to do that?! The ones who massacred civilians in Vietnam by spraying them with poison?! The ones who bombed all alone a European country (regardless if it helped you or not)?! You dont bomb countries just like that idiot and especially European ones! The ones who bomb Iraqis every day the last 10 years? Libofshe... I think you become more and more idiot day by day. Maybe that is why US likes people like you and you like them. You match
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Post by adolfkarderi on Jan 6, 2009 16:05:12 GMT -5
^^at least Libofsha is funny...the rest of u are a buncha tired mutherfuckers...E LAGU APO SE LAGU?? lol. America forced Russia to invade their "freinds" the Georgians??? sure...America also forced Russia to starve Ukranians, it also forced the Soviet Union to kill and starve 20 million of their own peopel, America also forced Stalin to be paranoid and send anyone who opposed him to Siberia....it was also America who forced Russia to be hated and feaerd by fellow slavic country Poland. I think everyone should jsut step back, try to wipe their own ass before calling someone else dirty.
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Post by albquietman on Jan 6, 2009 16:15:22 GMT -5
I don't understand all this passion about Russia, especially from Greeks, when history tells us that if it wasn't for Americans and British, Greece would had been today just another country in the east block. Maybe is the religion, or just because some of you simply hate America and whoever is the next super-power, just be on her side, even if it was Ottoman Empire.
My understanding is that Greece is making a wrong choice by siding with Russia. Nothing against Russia, but her resume tells us that she doesn't treat well the countries that are under her umbrella. The live example several years ago, or in other words, the difference between America and Russia was the West and East Germany. We all know how far away technologically and economically was West Germany comparing to East Germany, and we're talking about the same nation split in half.
Not all empires bring prosperity in the countries that are under their umbrella. Another example is the Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire. Wherever Romans went, they brought prosperity and development, but that wasn't the case for the Ottoman Empire...we Balkanians know that well.
I know that you might say that Russia is not red anymore. That's true, but I don't think that the super-power mentality of Russia has changed. We're talking about a super-power with almost zero ethnic and cultural diversity, with a homogeneous population that can't swallow easily the other cultures...and that tells us a lot, tells us that the tolerance for the others will be almost zero...I don't think anyone will like that, even the ones with the same religion as Russians.
America's history has some gray and black spots, but comparing to Russia is a much better choice if you can't live without being affiliated with a super-power...
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Post by greek1234 on Jan 6, 2009 22:32:46 GMT -5
Albanians take pride in other peoples achievements because they have none of their own. They are a nation of w**res (every sense of the word) and failures. Also i would like to state Greece not only has a strong bond with our Russian Orthodox friends but ALSO with the West and America. The Greeks are the most well integrated people in America alongside the Italians and Jews. In the end it comes down to the European Union that's all we need. Our relationship with the Western Europeans is out of respect. We fought alongside them in two world wars and provided their civilizations with strong foundations. Out of respect and need Greece was the first South/ East European nation to join. We all know our neighbors envy us because of this. I say to you who may envy us tough luck.... The people of Greece worked hard for their great achievements. It truly takes a great people to achieve so much throughout history.
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Post by albquietman on Jan 6, 2009 22:44:02 GMT -5
Yeah...you just showed your great civilization by burning and destroying your own cities...it takes "great" people to do that...
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Post by greek1234 on Jan 6, 2009 23:02:59 GMT -5
Are you denying that Greece laid the foundations of Western Civilization? Is this what they taught you in Communist Albania? Did they beat the masses when they voiced their beliefs? Or are you a child soldier of the KLA terrorist group that burned Christian Churches just recently or are you maybe the Albanians that still discriminate the Greek minorities in 'Southern Albania'. How can you even judge our civilization?
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Post by macmako on Jan 6, 2009 23:05:14 GMT -5
Funny photo on the master post. A non-V/STOL aircraft (looks like a MIG-35) taking off from a V/STOL Russian carrier, probably the Kiev. It is interesting since you can not launch a non-V/STOL a/c from that kind of carrier. It's impossible. There are no CATS.
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Post by albquietman on Jan 6, 2009 23:13:05 GMT -5
Are you denying that Greece laid the foundations of Western Civilization? Is this what they taught you in Communist Albania? Did they beat the masses when they voiced their beliefs? Or are you a child soldier of the KLA terrorist group that burned Christian Churches just recently or are you maybe the Albanians that still discriminate the Greek minorities in 'Southern Albania'. How can you even judge our civilization? The answer is no for all your question except the last one, which you can read the answer below... I'm not judging your civilization, but your actions (burning, destroying), which, if there was a civilization, they shouldn't have happened...
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Post by macmako on Jan 6, 2009 23:23:21 GMT -5
Excellent post, Albquietman. Russia only has it out for herself when it comes to relations with Greece and anyone else. Russia is running out of money and oil. It has an oil based economy and that is a big mistake. Greece will be sorry later. I don't understand all this passion about Russia, especially from Greeks, when history tells us that if it wasn't for Americans and British, Greece would had been today just another country in the east block. Maybe is the religion, or just because some of you simply hate America and whoever is the next super-power, just be on her side, even if it was Ottoman Empire. My understanding is that Greece is making a wrong choice by siding with Russia. Nothing against Russia, but her resume tells us that she doesn't treat well the countries that are under her umbrella. The live example several years ago, or in other words, the difference between America and Russia was the West and East Germany. We all know how far away technologically and economically was West Germany comparing to East Germany, and we're talking about the same nation split in half. Not all empires bring prosperity in the countries that are under their umbrella. Another example is the Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire. Wherever Romans went, they brought prosperity and development, but that wasn't the case for the Ottoman Empire...we Balkanians know that well. I know that you might say that Russia is not red anymore. That's true, but I don't think that the super-power mentality of Russia has changed. We're talking about a super-power with almost zero ethnic and cultural diversity, with a homogeneous population that can't swallow easily the other cultures...and that tells us a lot, tells us that the tolerance for the others will be almost zero...I don't think anyone will like that, even the ones with the same religion as Russians. America's history has some gray and black spots, but comparing to Russia is a much better choice if you can't live without being affiliated with a super-power...
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Post by macmako on Jan 6, 2009 23:26:54 GMT -5
It's a rust bucket. Looks very well kept to me.
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Post by greek1234 on Jan 6, 2009 23:47:18 GMT -5
We have Europe & the European Union.
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Post by macmako on Jan 6, 2009 23:54:54 GMT -5
Europe and the EU will not support Greece strengthening her ties with Russia.
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Post by libofshe on Jan 7, 2009 3:36:43 GMT -5
libofshe "i do hope that america never collapses though, because, even with their shortcomings they are by far a fairer nation and more moderate than greece, serbia and russia.....can you imagine a world ruled by your nations? god, you would have ethnicly cleansed it a long time ago. " ------------------------------------------------------------ We speak about the same America who whipes out the half of Palestinian race now that we are talking?! The ones who starts again the cold war by putting missiles all around Russia and made Russia invade to their friends the "Georgians"... and they were just watching?! The ones, and the ONLY ones in the world, who used the atomic bomb on innocent civilians in Japan.. without a need to do that?! The ones who massacred civilians in Vietnam by spraying them with poison?! The ones who bombed all alone a European country (regardless if it helped you or not)?! You dont bomb countries just like that idiot and especially European ones! The ones who bomb Iraqis every day the last 10 years? Libofshe... I think you become more and more idiot day by day. Maybe that is why US likes people like you and you like them. You match you have some nerve calling me an idiot especially for a guy who reasons like that, did you read back your first paragraph? because if you did you might realise how much of an absolute imbecile you are...and then think twice about calling other people idiots next time, clown. how does another country induce you to wage war on your neighbour and alleged friend? what did america do exactly to cause russia to piss all over international law and invade a sovereign country? what, did russia become jealous of americas courting of georgia? and just for the record, russia and georgia were never friends or allies, the hostilities have been going on for years since the breakup of soviet union. i said 'even with americas shortcomings' you moron, by that i effectively mean all of which you referred to in you redundant rant....but let me rephrase that in way you can grasp, by that i mean that despite all the flaws and their mistakes they are still a much more positive nation, come on man, greeks traded millions of their own kin in exchange for god knows what orthodox races, russians have killed their own people not to mention the terror they have been spreading in caucasses, don't forget also it was the americans who ellevated greece from utter poverty and famine, don't forget that! the bombing of serbia was nato led ok? it wasn't only americans which by the way was entirely justified, what, were they were going to allow another bosnia to happen? but of course you'd side with fellow orthodox butchers than appriciate human life.
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Post by libofshe on Jan 7, 2009 3:52:42 GMT -5
Albanians take pride in other peoples achievements because they have none of their own. They are a nation of w**res (every sense of the word) and failures. says the guy whose nation spawned and glorified homosexuality, i don't care what other feats you accomplish now or since then, nothing, no matter how big, will be grand enough to nullify homosexuality...in every sense of the word of course.
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Post by Kanaris on Jan 7, 2009 6:29:26 GMT -5
Yeah we do have that... and some have >>> heroin,gun running and white slavery in their repertoire....
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