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Post by kartadolofonos on Mar 6, 2009 16:27:14 GMT -5
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Post by kartadolofonos on Mar 8, 2009 17:02:14 GMT -5
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Post by ilirdardani on Mar 8, 2009 21:24:54 GMT -5
How about Albania and Greece invade it together and then split it, we'll take Tetovo and Skopje (shkup), and you can have the rest.
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Post by ioan on Mar 9, 2009 3:32:09 GMT -5
^What about the fact they are Bulgarians?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Mar 9, 2009 4:01:57 GMT -5
Yep l agree 100%. The vardarian language is slavic and it doesn't even resemble Hellenic Macedon. They are a political creation of the 19th and 20th centuries.
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Post by ioan on Mar 9, 2009 6:55:08 GMT -5
Yep l agree 100%. The vardarian language is slavic To be more precise...Bulgarian.
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Post by Kassandros on Mar 9, 2009 12:58:23 GMT -5
Ok Ioan. You can have the biggest part. Albanians can take the western part. Serbians can take some land on the north.... and... I really dont care if we take even 1 village. Only by thinking that this village will be full of gypsies and former commounists lovers of Tito.... ehm.. no. Keep it all. They will all come to Thessaloniki then as Greek citizens and the city will become very dirty literally and mentaly. Not even one chance. NO NO NO! Split the land in 3 and take them for yourselves.. We're out.
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Post by ioan on Mar 11, 2009 7:41:53 GMT -5
Hehe I was just kidding. I dont think Bulgarians are interested in getting fyrom. We prefer them to stay as they are. Not a single Bulgarian would want to fight for them, because they do not consider themselves part of our nation since 50 years ago. In that respect I think it would be best if things do not change but if there would be paid more attention to their real history, not politics. Greece and Bulgaria could cooperate to ensure that they do not claim the ancient Macedonians or the Medievil Bulgarian rulers or Bulgarian persons from the Revival period. We must cooperate so that they could come to their senses and accept their real origin which is Bulgarian.
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Post by Kassandros on Mar 11, 2009 14:49:37 GMT -5
That is what I was always saying... but Bulgaria is waiting Greece to do it and Greece to become the "bad kid" of AngloSaxan and puppet countries in EU and Nato...
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Post by rusebg on Mar 11, 2009 17:24:15 GMT -5
Unfortunately you are right. We are too passive but not for the reasons you state. It is just a blood matter. I wish we had the same tough position on fyrom as you do.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Mar 11, 2009 23:58:42 GMT -5
"To be more precise...Bulgarian."
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Post by ioan on Mar 12, 2009 0:15:13 GMT -5
Unfortunately you are right. We are too passive but not for the reasons you state. It is just a blood matter. I wish we had the same tough position on fyrom as you do. I agree. It is a blood matter. Like the Bulgarian politicians try to say to the fyrom ones they are not right, but in a soft tone, like a loving bigger brother to the little notorious one. We give them the wrong impression they could get away with everything. On the other hand we are very impressed by the Greeks firm position on them.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Mar 13, 2009 0:45:56 GMT -5
Just to let you know regarding language. All vardarian dialects, no matter how great the difference between them, belong to one type, and all of them by their characteristics are brances of the serbian language.
The main feature which on the one hand link the Vardarian dialects with the Serbian langauge, and on the other hand distinguish them from the Bulgarian, are the permutation of Old Slav individual sounds (Morphology) and the rules govering the inflection of words (Etymology).
There is only one linguistic feature which is, 'to all outward appearance, common to the Bulgarian language an to the Vardarian dialects and which does not exist in Serbian. This is the article, which is placed after the noun both in Bulgarian and in Vardarian dialects (suffix, post-position of the article).
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Post by ioan on Mar 13, 2009 0:50:16 GMT -5
novi stop dreaming and wake up. Not a single linguist believe fyrom lang is Serbian, on the other hand they agree its a bg dialect. Are u trying to justify the fact that Torlakian sounds too Bulgarian?
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Post by rusebg on Mar 13, 2009 1:03:19 GMT -5
Up to Novi, everything that has ever happened in the Balkans could be regarded as a sort of civil war among Serbs. That's because he strongly believes in Highduke and a certain German geologist who couldn't speak neither Bulgarian, nor Serbian, but somehow managed to understand the differenced in fyromian dialect. To make things clearer, I will just say that so far Novi has claimed Sofia, Plovdiv and Varna as being Serbian cities. Claiming fyromian language as Serbian is a piece of cake to him.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Mar 13, 2009 20:22:09 GMT -5
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Post by Novi Pazar on Mar 15, 2009 21:27:12 GMT -5
Guys, just want to ask why in Bulgarian language the nouns and adjectives are not inflected at all; they always retain the same form. The cases are expressed by prepositions placed before the nominative. In the Vardarian dialects, as in standard Serbian, both nouns and adjectives have seven cases, which are formed by added terminations.
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 15, 2009 22:14:38 GMT -5
As I understand it, they are Slavs with a Bulgarian conscious. Well that's the impression I’ve been given by many of them. Truly confused.
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Post by Alb_Korcar on Mar 15, 2009 22:14:45 GMT -5
How about Albania and Greece invade it together and then split it, we'll take Tetovo and Skopje (shkup), and you can have the rest. haha how about Albania and Macedonia invade Greece? Most Albanians I know like that idea better, the majority has a weakness for Chameria, they even call it the promised land Lmao no lie
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 15, 2009 22:25:16 GMT -5
^ Why stop there, why not the Cretans, Thessalians , Spartans and the Corfureans together with the Macedonians if you’re going to add the Macedonians why not add the rest of the Hellenic states bre ? .
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