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Post by kasso on Oct 22, 2007 4:59:36 GMT -5
What's the Arabs view of Albania and the Albanians? Are we viewed with curiosity by the Arabs? What have happened with the relation between Albania and the Arab-speaking world due to our military support in Iraq. Have we created enemies with extremists and friends with ordinary Arab people? Or do both hate us? Maybe Albania's military existence in Iraq have not giving a large echo, and the issue is ignored. Do we have any potential ability to attract Arab investors and make economical profits without them creating influence in the religious side of our society? How should the Albanian international political role in Middle East be? Could Albania work as Western countries satalite in promoting peace, stability and democracy in the Middle East and reducing the extremists tensions in the Arab-speaking, islamic countries? Western countries have already made some efforts to try to make Albania join in reducing tensions between the Christian world and the Islamic world, especially with the protests when animated photos of Muhammed was shown by the Danish newspapper.
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Post by meltdown711 on Oct 22, 2007 10:07:27 GMT -5
They know nothing about us... nor do they care to.
I have never heard of the Arabic world giving a rats ass about Albania... and Im happy things are that way...
We already have Arab investments...
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Post by meltdown711 on Oct 22, 2007 10:11:03 GMT -5
Anyway, Arabs are not kind of people I want to associate with (along with 90% of the 'Muslim world'); the further away we keep from them, the better...
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Post by kasso on Oct 22, 2007 10:24:11 GMT -5
Toskaliku711,
Keep it objective and without prejudice. Your comments are embarrassing.
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Post by ahristos on Oct 22, 2007 11:38:08 GMT -5
cossovar alqaedas member arresed in syrians frontiers tryining to get in iraq
dont u remember it
albs are moderate or typical-non practical muslems
cossovars and bosnians are more fanatics
hoxja has broke religion in albania or exactly has make a end and has learn that
bred is more important then curan cossovars have another curan ha ha
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Post by donnie on Oct 22, 2007 12:31:14 GMT -5
Axristo, don't you have a sausage party to attend?
As for the question/s; the Albanians are a small nation. There are positive and negative aspects about this. I think the positive outweigh the negative ones -- for starters one feels very unique and also kean on preserving one's language and identity, in order to pass it on to one's descendants. The 'negative', if it really is always that negative, with being Albanian, is that most people aren't familiar with us and consequently do not hold a particular belief/prejudice against us. When it comes to Arabs, it's not a matter of disinterest, hatred, sympathy, or any type of emotions -- we're simply a small nation they know little of simply because we're little, and we have had little geostrategical importance to them.
When I was in Tunisia (which is the only Arab country I've visited), no local knew about Albania and Albanians (they just nodded confused). They did know about Serbia though, which I suspect is the result of Tito's close diplomatic ties with several African countries (and Tito is closely associated with Yugoslavia -- Yugoslav is often synonymous to Serbian).
Today, however, Arabs have come to show some interest in us. And with Arabs, I am speaking of religious Wahhabi fanatics who try to spread their version of Islam not through spiritual persuasion and preaching, but through bribery camouflaged as 'investments'. Fully aware of our modest approach to Islam, the legacy of a tolerant Islamic version present in the Balkans for quite a while by now, they know that more is needed than mere words for the expansion of Wahhabism. They seek the poor, the exposed, the vulnerable. Families without means of supporting themselves financially are offered 300 € a month in order for the female members of the family to wear headscarfs. They have little real support, but nevertheless, their influence and wealth is a factor to reckon with. Their continuous investments have filled Kosova with, from an architecture's perspective, non-indigenous, alien/non-Balkanian type of mosques, colored green and visible different from the old, local mosques.
Economic emancipation, or just progress, will see the definite end of Wahhabi presence in Albanian lands, because the sole reason of its presence is precisely that; economic vulnerability.
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Post by kasso on Oct 22, 2007 13:20:54 GMT -5
local Arab-speaking people probably don't know about Albania and the Albanians, but that's nothing unusual because exactly the same is almost everywhere, and it's nothing peculiar than Swedish Kosovars not knowing that Albanians in Albania are the same ethnic group as Albanians in Kosovo,
Arabs with education and/or with influence are probably familiar with the Albanians and Albania, and I believe they have some interest in cooperating with the Albanian government in various fields but unfortunately islamic fanaticism is threating the corporation between Albania and the islamic world (since September 11 2001, Albania have distant themselves from the Arab-speaking world). I don't think people like Toskaliku711 are representative and his prejudice views wouldn't be accepted by the majority of Albanian politicans.
Albania should extend economic coperation with Arab countries, in particular rich oil countries, and continue with enforcing the ties with the European Union by securing the democratic process. I believe that it exist an interest among Arabic-speaking/"islamic" states to create diplomatic and economic ties with the only so called Muslim-majority country in Europe. In my understanding, we could play a key role in promoting peace, stability and democracy in the Middle East and provide diplomatic services for America's "peaceful" intentions with this turbulent continent. We have good relations with Israel and as a Muslim-majority country we would be viewed as neutral to the Palestinian political leadership and have the role as mediator and present a conciliation proposal with US-help which would be acceptable to both sides. We could surely create good possibilities, economically and politically. Although a little nation, all we need is the human capital and the right goals and purposes, we would put Albania on the international diplomatic map. Look at Sweden for example, they have nothing against creating ties with even the worse countries in the world and they have played a major role in creating bridges of undestanding between nations. Also, most Western-countries have strong economic ties with Arab-speaking countries which constitute many procents of the GNP. But than again, we should be careful with Arab-speaking countries demands, and we shouldn't become dependent on them as Zog's Albania became bound with Italy. Although this wouldn't hinder us to have a extensive economic coperation with islamic countries if we were the ones making the demands (sooner or later). The matter is indeed important and worth to investigate further.
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Post by meltdown711 on Oct 22, 2007 15:03:58 GMT -5
Arabet jan pika e dobet te botes. Jan nji race e qelbur, dhe jan ignorant ne pergjithsi. Sot ato japin vetem fanatika, terrorista. Do bej mire Shqiperia po te largohet aq shume se sa mundet nga keto hajvanet. Politikanet e Shqiperise meren me keta se ato i kan doret neper xhepat e tyre. Po t'flases me Shqiptaret ne ruge, shumica do te thoj: "Arabet jan mut".
Mjaft tani Kasso me keto budaliqe... Keto tema skan kuptim fare.
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Post by kasso on Oct 23, 2007 15:54:17 GMT -5
Toskaliku711,
Dhe shqiptarët qka jan? Hajduta dhe narkomana?
Nuk duhet bërë përgjithësime!
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Post by ahristos on Oct 26, 2007 12:06:31 GMT -5
yez beduins dont know about geography that is true but ossama is well educated person
also meny s arabs egyptians and this people who leads alqaeeda they knows bosnia well tchetchenia cossovo albania those cauntries are them entry in europe
because where islam is they hope from those cauntries members for them plans
also they have entry in muslems communities of UK-germany ect ect
Dont u know it
carpet of mosque of vlora are present from s arabia hatji peoples goes to mecca
and alqaeedas member are allready there
albanian state collaborates in full scales for to clean them if posible
us soldiers arrest some alb who has try to entry in iraq dont u know it
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