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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 12, 2008 4:29:17 GMT -5
Does anyone here follow it? And is it true that if you go to someone's village where they practice the kanun you can do anything even kill someone in their family and they won't do anything to you because you're a guest?
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 12, 2008 6:38:54 GMT -5
I heard one just has to change his last name.
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Post by Pejoni on Dec 12, 2008 8:16:40 GMT -5
Thats one filthy law, who ever follows it should be send to jail befor destroying more families.
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Post by Mimi on Dec 12, 2008 8:32:38 GMT -5
Thats one filthy law, who ever follows it should be send to jail befor destroying more families. ITA, you are so right we do not follow it, its wrong. it is different times now.
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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 12, 2008 11:44:03 GMT -5
Does anyone here follow it? And is it true that if you go to someone's village where they practice the kanun you can do anything even kill someone in their family and they won't do anything to you because you're a guest? A persons home is a sanctuary. Nothing is allowed in terms of violence when in some ones house. There was a specific time alloted for when it could happen afterwards as well. Doing something like killing a person within his own house was one of the greatest dishonors. A long with killing a man in the presence of his wife/mother/daughter; the greatest of all was, however, to kill a woman
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Post by malsor4life on Dec 12, 2008 12:11:13 GMT -5
Thats one filthy law, who ever follows it should be send to jail befor destroying more families. Yeah, the sense of Besa and giving your life up for your friend is "filthy"--yet in another thread you and Mimi were cheerleading Alb girls posing nude for Playboy. Wow, you 2 are a couple of clowns. Both of you should be thrown in jail LoL
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Post by malsor4life on Dec 12, 2008 12:37:28 GMT -5
Does anyone here follow it? And is it true that if you go to someone's village where they practice the kanun you can do anything even kill someone in their family and they won't do anything to you because you're a guest? You cant kill anyone in their house, thats a huge no-no. There are ppl who are in gjak that stay locked in their house for years without leaving, b/c they know its a safe zone.
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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 12, 2008 13:00:57 GMT -5
Does anyone here follow it? And is it true that if you go to someone's village where they practice the kanun you can do anything even kill someone in their family and they won't do anything to you because you're a guest? You cant kill anyone in their house, thats a huge no-no. There are ppl who are in gjak that stay locked in their house for years without leaving, b/c they know its a safe zone. well if you read Ismail Kadare's "Broken April" he says that a guest is viewed as Godly and can do anything even kill someone and nothing would happen to them because they have the besa as long as their guests in the house. But I think this was 30 years ago so maybe things have changed? and he writes that if they kill someone they have to ask the family of the person they killed for a 24 hour besa, then ask the old timers about a 30 day besa then they have to be killed too but he doesn't say anything about hiding in your house. At least the character in his book didn't hide lol.
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Post by malsor4life on Dec 12, 2008 13:19:53 GMT -5
You cant kill anyone in their house, thats a huge no-no. There are ppl who are in gjak that stay locked in their house for years without leaving, b/c they know its a safe zone. well if you read Ismail Kadare's "Broken April" he says that a guest is viewed as Godly and can do anything even kill someone and nothing would happen to them because they have the besa as long as their guests in the house. But I think this was 30 years ago so maybe things have changed? and he writes that if they kill someone they have to ask the family of the person they killed for a 24 hour besa, then ask the old timers about a 30 day besa then they have to be killed too but he doesn't say anything about hiding in your house. At least the character in his book didn't hide lol. True, a guest is considered 'godly'. Theres an old saying---Shpija asht e Zotit e e mikut. It's not that you *cant* (literally) kill someone in their house. You can do whatever you want, free will----you can jump off a cliff too if thats what you want LoL. But killing someone in their house is an extreme violation, it brings alot of shame. The only thing worse is killing a woman.
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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 12, 2008 13:34:28 GMT -5
^ well i guess he was just trying to say how important the guest is. the Berisha family in Kadare's book was in the blood feud because a guest was killed in front of their house 100 yrs before lol.
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Post by Mimi on Dec 12, 2008 15:12:02 GMT -5
Thats one filthy law, who ever follows it should be send to jail befor destroying more families. Yeah, the sense of Besa and giving your life up for your friend is "filthy"--yet in another thread you and Mimi were cheerleading Alb girls posing nude for Playboy. Wow, you 2 are a couple of clowns. Both of you should be thrown in jail LoL You my "friend" are a clown. you are judgemental and make assumptions. you only think one way and dont even know what having your opinion means, things are not always how it seems, you dont know the truth and dont have the right to judge. i often dont judge or care what others do as long as they dont hurt other people, its their life and if they feel what they are doing is right then we should mind our own business. does not mean i support it, I absolutely dont support anything filthy and trashy, it disguest me to and cant believe how they can do it. Kanun ends innocent lives and destroyes a lot of families, they can never move on and live in peace but are stuck in the past. nothing good comes out of it except misery, more pain and disaster. you should not take law into your hands as everyone knows what would happen then.
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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 12, 2008 15:55:05 GMT -5
holy shit stop going off topic u halfwits. i ask because i ordered the book in Albanian and it specifically said the guest was so holy he could do anything, even kill or rape the hosts family members but their's one specific thing they couldn't do and i didn't get that part because like i said i read the Albanian not English version.
does anyone know what that is that could be worse than killing or raping?? by the way Kadare describes the kanun it sounds horrible but its an intersting part of our culture and proves that we've been in the balkans for more than 1000 years (thats how old the kanun is)
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Post by epiroti on Dec 12, 2008 16:06:17 GMT -5
Does anyone here follow it? And is it true that if you go to someone's village where they practice the kanun you can do anything even kill someone in their family and they won't do anything to you because you're a guest? Adolf, po nuk i shkruan dote keto gjera ne shqip ti? Mos n'a turpero keshtu para te tjereve kote se koti... femije i prape.
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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 12, 2008 16:50:58 GMT -5
^^wtf?? His book has been read by non Albanians, it was translated in English and other langauges, so blame Kadare don't blame me, I'm jsut a fan of this Gjirokastrit's work
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Post by captainalbania on Dec 12, 2008 17:05:09 GMT -5
Youre an idiot. The kanun says you must treat your guests well but murder will be dealt with a death penalty. ALWAYS.
Never does it say in the Kanun the guest can murder the host family you dumbfuck.
The only thing worse than killing someone in their own home is killing a woman.
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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 12, 2008 17:17:59 GMT -5
^ok before u keep speweing verbal diarrhea i'm just repeating what i read on broken april. it says that the guest is so holy that he would be forgiven even if he killed a member of their family but there was one thing that if the guest did the family had the right to kill them and I didn't get that part.
I don't understand why everyone is hving a hissy fit, its not liek im going there as a guest and planning a special visit lol fucking retards. Kadare wrote about Mirdita in the 70's so maybe they changed things.
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Post by malsor4life on Dec 12, 2008 17:44:58 GMT -5
Adolf is plotting to invade someone's house in Albania LoL
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Post by srbobran on Dec 12, 2008 18:26:48 GMT -5
No. The code was developed by Lekë Dukagjini in the 15 Century. Thats about 500 years.
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Dec 12, 2008 19:46:34 GMT -5
The kanun is older then what leke dukagjni put together....True he put it together 500 years ago, but he didnt just invent those laws...those laws are ancient since the illyrian times...
And during the Ottoman occupation in Malsia e Madhe the Albanians welcomed some ottoman troops in their house gave them to eat and when the Ottomans were sleeping Malsors cut their throats off and sent the Ottoman heads to the Ottoman Porte to show them that they wont bow down to the Ottomans and that they will fight forever!
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Post by malsor4life on Dec 12, 2008 20:12:01 GMT -5
Word up.
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