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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 13, 2009 22:29:24 GMT -5
Janullatos the PedoPappa is getting his welcome in Tirana's church of Shen Mari (I think thats the church). They are giving honor to Noli's church. ;D
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Jan 13, 2009 22:36:24 GMT -5
We should spread it into the greek forum
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Post by libofshe on Jan 14, 2009 3:20:51 GMT -5
Really,if Alvanoi here believe what they write in their posts...its pity... You are a nation with hundreds of blank pages in your history book, maybe because of the very opprobrious acts of your grandfathers...understand it and try to be better...but reading some stuff about your history anybody can understand that you have a derogatory role...and this hardly change... spoken like a true ignorant f*ck! now go back to your kebab stand!
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2009 6:43:21 GMT -5
^ Yea,I'm totaly ignorant about albo history...i don't know what Albos did during the WW2...why don't you open a thread about Albanians in WW2...in order all the ignorant word which had closed its borders for 40 years while Albania was the most liberal country...learnnnn. Anastasios is trying to make you human beings and the only he gets from the pseudoatheist albos(most have names like Islami, Mustafa, Mohameti,Ibrahim etc etc) is online contempt...
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Post by libofshe on Jan 14, 2009 7:31:42 GMT -5
^ Yea,I'm totaly ignorant about albo history...i don't know what Albos did during the WW2...why don't you open a thread about Albanians in WW2...in order all the ignorant word which had closed its borders for 40 years while Albania was the most liberal country...learnnnn. Anastasios is trying to make you human beings and the only he gets from the pseudoatheist albos(most have names like Islami, Mustafa, Mohameti,Ibrahim etc etc) is online contempt... listen here you imbecile, youre an indoctrinated, hateful, xenophobe with no objective analysis, if you want to talk about albs during th WW2, make a thread about it and lets lock horns, if you want to talk about albo conversion to islam, start a thread and i guarantee you no one will shy away from participating(there are numerous already), no subject is off limits....but when you jump on perfectly legitimate topics to spew hatred and make accusations about albo history saying we have blank pages then you are a f****ing cretin who simply regurgitates greek expansionist propaganda depicting albs as no histroy having jihadist that live in trees.....how do you expect me to treat a piss poor excuse for a human being like you? seriously, how do you dignify a response to such blind hatred and distortion of history....i am greek, therefore i am better and own eveything, that's how your primate, single celled brain works, here's how f***ed up the greek psyche is, you claim to be worried/afraid of islamic influence in albania due to the fact that there is a muslim majority, however we keep telling you and reassuring that we are predominantly of atheist disposition, we have a weak bond with islam culture and religion is simply a nominal tag, everyone alb in here says that, we want to be viewed as such and by now you should have realised that this is indeed the case, and you know fully well that albania poses no threat with its brand of islamism....and yet you keep bringing up the terrorist issue, the islam factor, trying to portray us as jihadists or smth...so your real fear is that of other nations realising that albanians are free from religeous threat because you use the islam card to gain sympathy over us in the political arena, by portraying us as such you use it to subdue albanian influence in the balcans and claim territory that does not belong to you by saying that we are turks or smth, the real truth is you do not want us to be a peaceful, harmonious, mildly religeous nation because other's will warm up towards us, and that makes you even more pathetic than just a xenophobe.
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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 14, 2009 11:36:05 GMT -5
^ Yea,I'm totaly ignorant about albo history...i don't know what Albos did during the WW2...why don't you open a thread about Albanians in WW2...in order all the ignorant word which had closed its borders for 40 years while Albania was the most liberal country...learnnnn. Anastasios is trying to make you human beings and the only he gets from the pseudoatheist albos(most have names like Islami, Mustafa, Mohameti,Ibrahim etc etc) is online contempt... If you want to tsiganos, go ahead and open one, stop fukin trolling our topics.
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Post by libofshe on Jan 14, 2009 11:40:07 GMT -5
The only way that you ought to reply to all the indoctrinated,narrow-minded, xenophobic people like me is to reply with serious detailed historical analysis that dumbfound any "propagandist" claim from "our" side... You know sometimes it isn't bad at all to look back in our history and reveal to ourselves our nation's mistakes. This isn't happening in the case of Albos' role during WW2...and I mean what the majority of the Albanians did back then...and what they did not. Wherever you read about Albania's history on net, in the period of WW2 you only see what happened to the 50-100 Jewish families who lived in the mostly Italian occupied Albania. This is a nice chapter in Albania's history that in other case it would be hardly a paragraph. Your self-awareness is in very low level if you can't understand and accept Albanians' contribution to the Nazi/Fascist side and your opprobrious role in Balkans. And about your religion...I know from Albanian friends of mine that islam is not practised in the way other muslim nations do. But speaking about history,have you ever thought why Albos after fighting under Kastrioti against mousoulman bayraks then became one with their ex-enemies in such degree that their main identity was that of the Ottoman and their albanicity was a secondary element?? I don't undestand how much you have to try to see an obvious disgraceful continuity in Albanian's history...that of the position of Albos towards any "guest" tell him a Turk,a Nazi, a Fascist, an American... Because I know that you will refer to Greeks who converted to Islam during the Ottoman yoke...the only I have to say is that they are good Turks now... you really have no clue do you? the things that you just so 'happen' to unquestionably regard as facts are nothing more that century long propaganda by greeks and serbs which they have used at their discretion to chop away territoris and justify injusteces against alb population, you offer no value in a historical capacity, you are merely reciting some urban myths and fabrications your people have used for decades, the conversion of albanian did not happen immediately after the collapse of kruja you misguided twat, this is exactly what i am talking about 'oh, you guys after you were defeated, you became friends with turks', if you had any knowledge or inkling of histroy you would know otherwise, albanians were persecuted like no other, mass murder and expulsion, half of the population went into exile so shut the f*** up! and the conversion was a centuaries long process, it didn't get in full swing until the land reforms in late 17 hundreds and early 18 hundreds, we are unlike greeks who have no loyalty to blood, muslim, christians alike stood united and never devided whereas you traded your own kin in exhange for god knows what just as long as they were orthodox, and you take pride in that, that's despicable and reprehensible and yet you think that's awesome.
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2009 12:07:24 GMT -5
Yes of course, the national history written in books and in your albo minds during Hoxha and after are free of any propagandist and false opinions... Ok lets talk with facts...was there any serious resistance during WW2 from the Albanian side??? Weren't you those who organised in SS groups and generally speaking italogermanophiles or in the best case asleep even though some "guests" were rulling your country... The fact that some Albanians were persecuted,exiled during the Ottoman yoke makes the majority of the Albanians traitors against the other Albanian victims. If you are proud for those who were executed and exiled by the Turks you have to be ashamed of those who became Osman tsoglan... Just choose...Were those who were exiled and killed stupids???...and the other who converted the smart ones? The Greek who became muslim during the Ottoman era, did it for his egocentric reasons, with some exceptions of course. This one is not Greek for me even if he has Greek blood, if he was a real Greek he should had kept this factor of our identity...he became muslim and cut some of his dick...because either he was afraid or was a miserable bastard... DONT DELETE THIS POST TOO. PS. And libofshe, tell your hybrid compatriot above to find what the he!l he feels about his lineage and then let him speak...
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Post by Alb_Korcar on Jan 14, 2009 12:35:17 GMT -5
waht was that a serious question?? of course there was seroius resistance..the entire region of KORCA resisted and fought the Nazi/Fastists...below are the names of the more tehn a 1000 peopel from the Korca region who fought...some of them my ancestors i am proud to say.
Lista e partizaneve te brigades IX
1. Adriatik Kanani 2. Avni Qinani 3. Ali Rexhepi 4. Andrea Vangjeli 5. Avdulla Moçani 6. Apostol Tropozishti 7. Antoneta Bushi 8. Arsinoi Balli 9. Anastas Thomai 10. Ajçe Popçishti 11. Agush Jonuzi 12. Apostol Demiraj 13. Adem Dërgjini 14. Apostol Stathaqi 15. Arif Hoxholli 16. Andon Bellovoda 17. Abedin Bregu 18. Ali Beqiri 19. Ali Zerelli 20. Agush Oshafi 21. Arif Guri 22. Avdulla Abazi 23. Ali Mahmuti 24. Andon Avrami 25. Arif Lami 26. Ali Manushi 27. Ali Çukalli 28. Agim Karani 29. Antoneta Buzo 30. Aleksandra Bozo 31. Arta Noli 32. Alfred Mina Uçi 33. Angji Faberi 34. Afro Dushku 35. Arif Çuçka 36. Artemisi Bicolli 37. Adem Çeliku 38. Aspasi Çekiçi 39. Adriatik Dervishi 40. Afroviti Sulku 41. Antoneta Kristo 42. Asime Meçolli 43. Abesn Sinja 44. Ali Lumani 45. Asllan Gjalpi 46. Avni Marjanaku 47. Azem Begolli 48. Arif Progri 49. Ali Doçi 50. Asllan Sadikaj 51. Ahmet Abeshi 52. Anesti Lera 53. Ahmet Hynllari 54. Ali Çela 55. Avdyl Elezi 56. Ahmet Oshafi 57. Adem Myrtezai 58. Adem Xhaja 59. Avdyl Mehmeti 60. Asllan Hoxhallari 61. Arif Makolli 62. Avdulla Xhero 63. Ali Bazeli 64. Abedin Guçe 65. Ajaz Kodra 66. Adem Xhemali 67. Azem Ismaili 68. Avdulla Zeneli 69. Avni Zëmbaku 70. Asllan Limke 71. Avni Coca 72. Arif Grebolli 73. Abaz Feka 74. Andrea Kusho 75. Avni Fico 76. Ali Riza 77. Asim Babjeni 78. Abaz Babjeni 79. Alush Dërsiku 80. Asllan Gura 81. Asllan Fazlliu 82. Avni 83. Xhaferi 84. Ahmet Senishti 85. Ali Çakëri 86. Avni Qinami 87. Anastas Thanasi 88. Ali Ismaili 89. Abaz Zeqiri 90. Ali Bajrami 91. Asllan Feimi 92. Alush Saidi 93. Ali Shahini 94. Adriatik Dervishi 95. Andrea Bulgareci 96. Agush Koroni 97. Asllan Veizi 98. Adem Demushi 99. Asllan Tosku 100. Azem Resha 101. Avni Kuçi 102. Abedin Goskova 103. Azem Piskupati 104. Aziz Lubonja 105. Avdyl Dervishi 106. Androkli Kostallari 107. Bajram Kreka 108. Beqar Fero 109. Bexhet Shkoza 110. Bato Meçollari 111. Bektash Çezma 112. Besim Rexhepi 113. Baki Starja 114. Baki Tahiri 115. Bektash Kolonjari 116. Bajram Meçollari 117. Beqir Jacellari 118. Bektashi Tahiri 119. Bajram Kungulli 120. Baki Fiqo 121. Beqo Koraqi 122. Besim Ymeri 123. Bahri Osmani 124. Bajram Tresova 125. Bido Biranji 126. Bajram Cenko 127. Bido Bregu 128. Bajram Qeribani 129. Bane Mullaj 130. Burhan Muçollari 131. Bido Moglica 132. Bajram Hoxhallari 133. Bektash Xhika 134. Bajram Bako 135. Bilal Qose 136. Banush Kasëmllari 137. Besim Besholli 138. Besim Ymetllari 139. Bajram Abeshi 140. Bilal Iljazi 141. Bilal Muhmutllari 142. Bektash Laraku 143. Bardhyl Baci 144. Bajram Pëllumbi 145. Beço Matraku 146. Baki Jaupi 147. Beqir Mulliri 148. Beqir Demo 149. Besim Zyberi 150. Bariq Shehu 151. Bexhet Hoxha 152. Bajram Shaglli 153. Bajram Merolli 154. Banush Kaso 155. Bari Nurçelklari 156. Bajame Zeqo 157. Bilal Elezi 158. Breshan Kalo 159. Bexhet Yzeiri 160. Bido Ramizi 161. Bajram Hajro 162. Belua Haxhi 163. Bexhet Sali 164. Bexhet Jaupi 165. Çaush Demiri 166. Çeço Pulaha 167. Dridëro Riza Agolli 168. Drita Myslymi 169. Demir Mullaj 170. Dalip Gërbeci 171. Dule Selimi 172. Donika Vinçani 173. Demir Sejdarasi 174. Dritore Pecani 175. Dilo Rapi 176. Drini Kacidhja 177. Dejkothe Dobiba 178. Demir Alushi 179. Dervish Kaja 180. Dule Qenica 181. Dilaver Jaupi 182. Demir Isa 183. Todi Posyoli 184. Drita Duka 185. Drita Kondo 186. Durim Take 187. Diçe Starja 188. Drita Lavdari 189. Donika Tupe 190. Demirali Backa 191. Dylbere Zajmi 192. Destan Çollaku 193. Dane Eshka 194. Donika Vinçani 195. Dilaver Muhametllari 196. Diturije Cenkolli 197. Demir Manellari 198. Dilaver Sulejmani 199. Dalip Matraku 200. Dilaver Isollari 201. Demir Bektashi 202. Dervish Hajro 203. Dervish Ago 204. Demir Kaso 205. Daut Matolli 206. Dervish Zyko 207. Dalip Gura 208. Donika Kolonja 209. Demir Keco 210. Demir Kaso 211. Donika Sotiri 212. Dhimokli Milo 213. Dhimitër Qamo 214. Dhori Qirko 215. Dhorko Komenica 216. Dhorko Gjezi 217. Dhimitër Mitrushi 218. Dhori Malko 219. Dhimitraq Petraqi 220. Dhimitra Deshnica 221. Dhimitër Pjetri 222. Dhimitër Kozma 223. Dhimokli Bodoni 224. Dhori Tuci 225. Dhori Qiraxhiu 226. Dhespina Opari 227. Dhimitër Kozma (Perdovinjë) 228. Dhori Prifti 229. Dhori Gaspari 230. Dhimitër Zguri 231. Dhori Qerami 232. Dhori Vithkuqi 233. Dhosi Qiraxhi 234. Dhimitër Spirollari 235. Dhimitër Mamo 236. Dhorkë Kreshpani 237. Dhori Grabocka 238. Dhimitro Kamenica 239. Dhimitër Mitrovica 240. Dhorkë Dishnica 241. Dhori Tomi 242. Dhimitër Stafa 243. Enver Sadushi 244. Enver Besimi 245. Eqerem Topallaj 246. Eqerem Demiri 247. Erini Qazimi 248. Efgjini Budina 249. Efgjini Pilkati 250. Eqerem Lumi 251. Eqerem Zhulaku 252. Enver Fupi 253. Emin Bracani 254. Eli Gjylameti 255. Enver Mancellari 256. Evgjeni Stavro 257. Elmaz Pono 258. Eqrem Plloko 259. Eqrem Hoxha 260. Elmaz Kaso 261. Elmaz Hysenllosi 262. Elmaz Demiri 263. Eshref Rama 264. Elmaz (Korça) 265. Ermin Kocani 266. Eleni Opari 267. Eleni Mani 268. Enver Ahamtllari 269. Enver Hyseni 270. Enver Ahmeti 271. Evgjeni Polena 272. Engjell Nuro 273. Eqrem Koshica 274. Eshite cucka 275. Enver Ibrahimi 276. Elira Dhimitraqi 277. Enver Pogoni 278. Fiemi Hoxha 279. Faik Mimorelli 280. Faik Take 281. Ferit Tahillari 282. Fejzo Tabaku 283. Fari Piluri 284. Fuat Zereci 285. Ferit Lamce 286. Faik Axhemi 287. File Estrefi 288. Foto Jani 289. Fejzi Dajlani 290. Feti Dervishi 291. Feti Azizi 292. Faslli Salla 293. Feridum Take 294. Fuat Hoxha 295. Fatime Kovaçi 296. Ferit Videhova 297. Fuat Shehu 298. Ferit Bitincka 299. Fidarije Suvana 300. Fari Polena 301. Faslli Dolemi 302. Flora Taripe 303. Fut Sherifi 304. Faik Muçka 305. Feti Turabiu 306. Ferit Shaholli 307. Feruze Shaholli 308. Fejzulla Sejko 309. Feti Zykollari 310. Fidai Jacelli 311. Faslli Sallo 312. Faik Selfo 313. Faik Maxhori 314. Fuat Shabani 315. Ferit Mekolli 316. Feko Braçe 317. Ferit Xhonga 318. Faik Hyska 319. Ferim Metolli 320. Fejzi Rusi 321. Fejzi Voci 322. Faik Hyska 323. Ferit Zamilla 324. Ferit Zeqo 325. Fezo Llënga 326. Faik Murati 327. Feti Azizi 328. Fondi Gjoka 329. Ferit Lamçe 330. Fero Tabaku 331. Faik Xhaferi 332. Feti Nuriu 333. Flora Tupe 334. Feti Bakalliu 335. Flora Isa 336. Fari Tole 337. Faik Limi 338. Ferit Çakëri 339. Ferit Maxhullari 340. Fadil Guce 341. Ferit Larushi 342. Fejzo Tabaku 343. Feti Shabani 344. Femi Gjomo 345. Fuat Brinja 346. Feta Myslymi 347. Feti Ibrahimi 348. Feti Halili 349. Faik Kasemi 350. Ferit Maliqi 351. Ferit Veisllari 352. Fatime Zenuni 353. Fuat Agastra 354. Gaqo Jovani 355. Gaqo Shollo 356. Gaqo Poloska 357. Gaqo Pine 358. Gaqo Lubonja 359. Gani Berberi 360. Gani Palla 361. Gani Xhaja 362. Gani Amallo 363. Gaqo Nasta 364. Gani Nudo 365. Gaqo Peçi 366. Gani Ymeri 367. Gani Osmani 368. Grip Kallmi 369. Girtali Hoxha 370. Gani Moglica 371. Gazi Xhilami 372. Gani Xhudi 373. Gani Copo 374. Grip Koltori 375. Gani Çuçka 376. Gani Bektashi 377. Gjini Koço 378. Gjini Blushi 379. Gjyladin Progo 80. Gjylam Pollo 381. Hamit Mora 382. Rexhep Bezati 383. Hysen Panariti 384. Halim Gjergjevica 385. Haxhi Shati 386. Hasime Spaho 387. Halim Qamcka 388. Hysen Abdyli 389. Hysen Selenica 390. Hekuran Xhemali 391. Hydri Mehmeti 392. Hekuran Rizaj 393. Hysen Strelca 394. Hasim Peshtani 395. Halil Plasa 396. Haki Kalivaçi 397. Halit Çaushllari 398. Hekuran Taipllari 399. Hamdi Rexhepi 400. Hysen Zeneli 401. Hydri Ahmeti 402. Hasim Sadiku 403. Hasim Haxhiu 404. Hatixhe Shaqiri 405. Hekuran Jashari 406. Hajredin Kambo 407. Hasan Nuro 408. Hekuran Gjezolli 409. Hysen Pëllumbi 410. Halim Çashi 411. Hekuran Suvalin 412. Hysen Copalli 413. Hodo Iljazi 414. Hodo Agolli 415. Hysen Rezhda 416. Hydi Ose 417. Hamdi Meta 418. Hysen Çollaku 419. Halim Skerma 420. Hydri Lipo 421. Hekuran Qose 422. Haxhi Mimini 423. Hekuran Qezalli 424. Hamdi Seitllari 425. Hate Abrashi 426. Hasan Shtira 427. Halim Selmani 428. Harif Likollari 429. Haxhi Rushani 430. Haxhi Alushi 431. Hekuran Bardhi 432. Hasan Selenica 433. Hasan Kodra 434. Hekuran Memollari 435. Haxhi Shaqiri 436. Hekuran Bregu 437. Haxhi Seiti 438. Halim Çaushi 439. Hekuran Subra 440. Hysen Peroku 441. Hami Zhulaku 442. Hysni Came 443. Hasan Cucka 444. Haxhi Gjoze 445. Hasim Rusi 446. Hamdi Kadiu 447. Haxhi Shaku 448. Hami Kombi 449. Hasan Nuro 450. Hetem Shabani 451. Hekuran Majollari 452. Hasan Hasani 453. Hysen Plasa 454. Halit Hasan 455. Halim Gjergjevica 456. Hysen Alla 457. Hekuran Fuati 458. Hasan Demiri 459. Hairi Kuqali 460. Hysen Muharemi 461. Hamit Cenolli 462. Hysen Ostreni 463. Hysni Topulli 464. Hate Abashi 465. Halil Çaushllari 466. Hodo Iliazi 467. Hekuran Demollari 468. Hamza Verleni 469. Hajrulla Harjulli 470. Hamza Hysollari 471. Halim Qase 472. Hasim Biçko 473. Halil Janushllari 474. Handar Veizi 475. Hami Aliu 476. Halim Nazifi 477. Hysen Mustafa 478. Isa Haxhollari 479. Ismail Haxhollari 480. Ibrahim Topulli 481. Ilo Janku 482. Ilo Kristo 483. Ilani Skermo 484. Ismail Sedolli 485. Ibrahim Abedini 486. Isuf Seitllari 487. Islam Berasi 488. Ibrahim Piluri 489. Ilmi Xhezairi 490. Idriz Demiri 491. Ismail Hasllami 492. Isa Mehmeti 493. Iliaz Isaj 494. Ilo Furxhiu 495. Ismail Çobaj 496. Ilo Meti 497. Ilaç Memlishti 498. Ilmi Todushllari 499. Ilo Pilkati 500. Ibrahim pojani 501. Ismail Tefiku 502. Ilo Karanxhi 503. Islam Pane 504. Islam Lumi 505. Istref Murizi 506. Ibrahim Mucellari 507. Ibrahim Muço 508. Istref Manellari 509. Iljaz Dervishllari 510. Ismail Spahiu 511. Idrz Vito 512. Ilmi Hoxha 513. Idajet Pashollari 514. Istref Musaraj 515. Ilmi Pilkati 516. Isuf Brace 517. Islam Kadillari 518. Ismail Demiri 519. Ismail Dema 520. Ilo Mano 521. Ismian Ferati 522. Idriz Bejleri 523. Idriz Shaqlliu 524. Ismail Lumi 525. Ilo Tase 526. Ilmi Ramo 527. Ibrahim Bica 528. Ibrahim Myslymi 529. Ibrahim Dersniku 530. Ilo Polena 531. Istref Melçani 532. Islam Beshiri 533. Ilmi Raifi 534. Ilmi Sulejmani 535. Ilmi Bektashi 536. Ilmi Zdervaska 537. Irakli Bozo 538. Ismail Kodra 539. Isuf Shegaj 540. Ismet Muke 541. Ismail Hoxheri 542. Isuf Jaupi 543. Isuf Shabani 544. Ismail Zajmi 545. Ismail Ymeri 546. Ilo Lubonja 547. Janaq Stathaqi 548. Jonuz Bejko 549. Jonuz Hamiti 550. Jonuz Osmani 551. Jorgji Xhaxhi 552. Jani Stati 553. Jonuz Baruti 554. Josif Vodica 555. Jani Bilbilushi 556. Jani Spirollari 557. Jace Fera 558. Jakup Froholli 559. Josif Bashllari 560. Jonuz Osmani 561. Jani Mucolli 562. Kalem Malo 563. Koci Xoxe 564. Kol Berisha 565. Kadri Mancellari 566. Koli Vaso 567. Kadri Qosja 568. Kico Nemercka 569. Koci Haxhillari 570. Kamber Lipe 571. Kamber Fetahu 572. Koci Karoli 573. Koli Shuke 574. Koco Spirollari 575. Kopi Pelici 576. Koli Hari 577. Kositka Gjergji 578. Koco Spirollari 579. Kopi Pelinci 580. Kolivani Hari 581. Kostika Gjergji 582. Kocco Guri 583. Kili Aleksi 584. Kasem Zoreci 585. Kocci Starja 586. Kadri Plasa 587. Kocci Kristo 588. Kostella Gjergji 589. Kamber Xhezairi 590. Kristo Jorgji 591. Kadri Dusha 592. Karafil Beqo 593. Karafil Fido 594. Koli Gjika 595. Kocci Veliu 596. Kalem Vashtwmia 597. Koci Vithkuqi 598. Kristzaq Bica 599. Kocco Mino 600. Kuqali Çeliku 601. Kristo Zoto 602. Karafil Mejdani 603. Kositka Marku 604. Kosta Stikomi 605. Kurtali Hamzollari 606. Kostaq Klime 607. Kamber Poceshi 608. Kurtali Mimini 609. Kadri Vila 610. Karafil Shanbetraku 611. Kadri Koccillari 612. Kroni Qypi 613. Kurtali Zyli 614. Kurtali Hoxha 615. Karafil Mullaj 616. Koli Fatollari 617. Kocco Çubeta 618. Kicco Borova 619. Kocco Kristo 620. Kadri Moçani 621. Kadri plura 622. Kico Piluri 623. Kostandin Pjetri 624. Koci Prifti 625. Kozma Progri 626. Kadri Shipcka 627. Kapllan Tefiku 628. Kristo Nasi 629. Liri Tola 630. Lutfi Fezolli 631. Liman Leminati 632. Liza Sotiri 633. Lutfi Morava 634. Leto Kalivaci 635. Ligor Ngjela 636. Lirim Dhama 637. Defter Apostoli 638. Lutfi Shyti 639. Ligor Ciromi 640. Defter Grabocka 641. Lilo Rapo 642. Lirika Ndini 643. Loni Llazi 644. Ligor Miti 645. Lutfi Oshafi 646. Lutfi Berberi 647. Latif Pengari 648. Lutfi Banushi 649. LUTFI Tosuni 650. Defter Lilo 651. Laver Mahmutllari 652. Liri Flaka 653. Liman Hoxha 654. Loni Ligori 655. Lutfi Molla 656. Linjana Hasanbelli 657. Lulëzim Behari 658. Loni Nole 659. Lethkothe 660. Ligor Vangjeli 661. Ligor Ziso 662. Ligor Cinaku 663. Lutfi kasa lulo Aliçkolli 664. Lili Djamo loni Trebicka lutfi Xhemaliu 665. Llazi Mato 666. Llazi Luarasi 667. Llazi Polena 668. Llazi Cici 669. Llazi Veshi 670. Llambi Plasa 671. Llazi Miska 672. Llazi Popi 673. Llazi Vangjeli 674. Llazi Çekani 675. Llazi Gegprifti 676. Llambi Pazolli 677. Llambi Gjoniçi 678. Llambi Çomo 679. Llazi Lika 680. Llambi Ndreko 681. Llazi Simoni 682. Llazi Zguro 683. Llazi Cigarja 684. Llazi Vangjeli 685. Muharrem Osmani 686. Moro Avrashi 687. Mehmet Kalivaçi 688. Muslim Boca 689. Miti Spirollari 690. Muharrem Shahollari 691. Mehmet Kalomi 692. Muharrem Panariti 693. Muharrem Rustemi 694. Myslim Sekollari 695. Murat Dervishi 696. Muharrem Mucko 697. Mero Shushollari 698. Maria Theemelko 699. Mihal Cika 700. Myslym Moçollari 701. Mihal Bimishi 702. Mehmet Graca 703. Miço Puro 704. Mehmet Hamolli 705. Myslym Tabaku 706. Mihal Colja 707. Mihal Sterjo 708. Muharrem Hysi 709. Medi Agolli 710. Myrvete Malaj 711. Mihal Jorgo 712. Mynyr Baruti 713. Marjana Qeraxhiu 714. Muhamet Likollari 715. Myslym Matraku 716. Miti Tolo 717. Myftar Muçollari 718. Myrteza Çucka 719. Mihal Nikolla 720. Muharrem Nimani 721. Muke Dula 722. Mustafa Nesimi 723. Myzejene Vogli 724. Marika Guci 725. Marika Gambeta 726. Mithat Kacidhja 727. Muharrem Babjeni 728. Mustafa Flogu 729. Maqi Floqi 730. Muhadin Braho 731. Mustaf Zyberi 732. Mihal Vasili 733. Muharrem Demiri 734. Myrvet Tosuni 735. Medim Panariti 736. Marlandhi Luarasi 737. Male Kolivaci 738. Muco Dishnica 739. Mehmet Kaloni 740. Myri Arifi 741. Mestan Zypali 742. Miha Lloza 743. Mehmet ymeri 744. Mehmet Hysi 745. Mita Mihali 746. Meko Bajrami 747. Meko Bazi 748. Marika Petraqi 749. Murat Mehmeti 750. Miha Nasi 751. Mehmet Karabaca 752. Muharrem Limani 753. Musa Xhelollari 754. Mahmur Azemi 755. Maliq Cipollari
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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 14, 2009 12:48:05 GMT -5
How many fkin times will you post this? Did you bust a nut after you found it?
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2009 16:29:15 GMT -5
Ok ok you convinced me...these are my new conclusions...
*Albanians never cooperated with any invader(as a majority).
*Albanians resisted admirably against Nazi and of course we all now the Albano-Italian War where Albos despite the great victories became an Italian protectorate.
*Albanians following the spirit of Kastrioti kept resisting against the barbaric Turks, but the majority of Albos found after much philosophical inquietude that islam answered their existential problems.
*Albanians resisting spirit,being a warlike nation,made them to be the last Balkans nation to get its independence, even if many nationalist grekserbs say that if they were still with territorial adjacency with Turkey autonomy would have been the maximum that the regionalist Arnauts could had asked.
*The resistance was so tough that Germans because of their fear promised and almost gave them Kosovo and Tsamouria. Tsams resisted valiancy so the lousy Greek terrorist groups who acted in that area had to be vanished...
There is a nice greek word for the above...oxymoron...
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Post by Alb_Korcar on Jan 14, 2009 17:31:22 GMT -5
How many fkin times will you post this? Did you bust a nut after you found it? as many tiems as it takes for everyone to understand that not all our ancestors bend over for invadors like yours.
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Post by Alb_Korcar on Jan 14, 2009 17:42:33 GMT -5
Ok ok you convinced me...these are my new conclusions... *Albanians never cooperated with any invader(as a majority). *Albanians resisted admirably against Nazi and of course we all now the Albano-Italian War where Albos despite the great victories became an Italian protectorate. *Albanians following the spirit of Kastrioti kept resisting against the barbaric Turks, but the majority of Albos found after much philosophical inquietude that islam answered their existential problems. *Albanians resisting spirit,being a warlike nation,made them to be the last Balkans nation to get its independence, even if many nationalist grekserbs say that if they were still with territorial adjacency with Turkey autonomy would have been the maximum that the regionalist Arnauts could had asked. *The resistance was so tough that Germans because of their fear promised and almost gave them Kosovo and Tsamouria. Tsams resisted valiancy so the lousy Greek terrorist groups who acted in that area had to be vanished... There is a nice greek word for the above... oxymoron... yes in Korca everyone resisted admirably of course Brigada IX alone kicked the Nazis out and liberated Korca, this brigade and teh Partizans were the reasons the Nazis in Albania were defeated and the reason that besides Yugoslavia Albania was the only country in Europe that did not need to be liberated by teh Soviets or allies. We liberated ourselves. i could care less waht your opinion on Chams is, i'm not Cham, not interested in talking about them. and i care even less for your failed attempts at sarcasm.
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2009 18:02:25 GMT -5
Oh yes...I forgot in my "new conclusions" that Albania kicked the Nazis out...bre bura trime...
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Post by sotneser on Jan 14, 2009 18:09:14 GMT -5
Oh yes...I forgot in my "new conclusions" that Albania kicked the Nazis out...bre bura trime... Stop fucking ruining the thread with the shit you have been fed.
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2009 18:17:20 GMT -5
Oh yes...I forgot in my "new conclusions" that Albania kicked the Nazis out...bre bura trime... Stop f**king ruining the thread with the s**t you have been fed. Am I wrong?? I said, Albos kicked the Nazis out...do you have a different opinion?
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Post by epiroti on Jan 14, 2009 18:18:42 GMT -5
... the majority of Albos found after much philosophical inquietude that islam answered their existential problems. Or it could well be that the reason why we converted was because religion never ment that much to us. We weren't afraid of reality/life, so there was no need for religious "opium" to sooth our fears and anxieties. And to whatever extent those anxieties manifested themselves - only natural for at least such a thought or doubt to accur to a person - we never believed the claims and assertions delivered by the religious texts. We only believed those true existential phenomenons, such as the improved daily life if we gave into such a turkish request - one that didn't mean much to us anyway. But you, being the fanatic and close-minded fvck that you are, will turn a blind eye to all the above, and continue on your path of hatred and attempt to discriminate against us. And you're wellcome... on this side, we'll just observe your weak character and laugh at the mixture of defensive mentality of a weak soul with pure ignorance and inability to assess arguments...
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Post by Alb_Korcar on Jan 14, 2009 18:25:43 GMT -5
lol there was a Serbian guy who wrote somthing in a balkan group some time ago that was funny. everyone was talking s**t about Serbs and he said all thats missing here are Bosnians, after all who better to hate you then one of your own of course in this case it doesnt apply to Serbs since Serbs or Bosnians are not commenting in this topic lolol
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2009 20:04:33 GMT -5
... the majority of Albos found after much philosophical inquietude that islam answered their existential problems. Or it could well be that the reason why we converted was because religion never ment that much to us. We weren't afraid of reality/life, so there was no need for religious "opium" to sooth our fears and anxieties. And to whatever extent those anxieties manifested themselves - only natural for at least such a thought or doubt to accur to a person - we never believed the claims and assertions delivered by the religious texts. We only believed those true existential phenomenons, such as the improved daily life if we gave into such a turkish request - one that didn't mean much to us anyway. But you, being the fanatic and close-minded fvck that you are, will turn a blind eye to all the above, and continue on your path of hatred and attempt to discriminate against us. And you're wellcome... on this side, we'll just observe your weak character and laugh at the mixture of defensive mentality of a weak soul with pure ignorance and inability to assess arguments... According to your way...Epiroti...If I give you 50,00 euros and a car would you become orthodox?If it improves your daily life why don't you get baptised??? Keep on with the observation...
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Post by epiroti on Jan 14, 2009 20:20:46 GMT -5
For me, no, because I am in a strong position to achieve financial goals in the near future. But for an Albanian in the 16th and 17th century, who had been accustomed to turkish presence (in the sense that he was convinced that they weren't going to leave any time soon), and whose life was very hard financially... well, the alternative was much more appealing to them, it spoke to more foundamental urges (in the survival sense).
Oh, and don't think that the seriosity that my style of answering these questions of yours in any way implies that I believe this being any sort of genuine conversation/debating. I know your motives... but just as I said to my female lab-partner last year, who was becoming suspicious of my flirtatious/teasing remarks, you're just practice... to improve my skills... for when they matter more. So don't get too happy and don't feel overly-significant. ;D
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