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Post by todhrimencuri on May 26, 2009 2:55:00 GMT -5
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donnie
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Nike Leka i Kelmendit
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Post by donnie on May 26, 2009 13:15:03 GMT -5
Rrofshin camet!
Ne shqiptaret e Kosoves dhe shqiptaret e Camerise kemi nje mirekuptim te ndersjellte si rrjedhoje e historise se ngjashme te ketyre dy rajoneve (Kosove & Cameri). Perndjekje, vrasje, shperngulje per ne Shqiperi dhe Turqi, ballafaqimi me kolonizimin e trojeve aterore e keshtu me rradhe.
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on May 31, 2009 1:27:03 GMT -5
Kur shpalli Kosova pavarsiene...e pash ne CNN nje kartoline te madhe ku shkruante "Pa kosove e cameri nuk ka shqiperi"...dhe gjith njerzit ishin mbrapa.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 31, 2009 5:28:29 GMT -5
Too obscene Kastorianos! You know better than this ...
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Post by todhrimencuri on May 31, 2009 14:15:07 GMT -5
I dont respect you to show any respect, nor to understand how to honor those who have suffered, but keep those comments out of here. Do them all you like in the Greek forum, this was created to keep it clean of such derogatory comments.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 31, 2009 15:42:06 GMT -5
Haha yes... says who? The one that was always saying that he doesnt give a rats ass for the Chams.
Those people are audacious. Instead of apologizing for their evil ancestors they make claims...its unbelievable.
Ps: Since Im from "Chameria" as well this concerns me a lot. It concerns me actually more than you and every other albo here who just make use of this issue in order to can play one more time the anti-Greece card...
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Post by todhrimencuri on May 31, 2009 16:32:11 GMT -5
I dont give a rats ass about the issue, because I think the south should be and is finalized and I want them to stay in the south and slaughter the Greeks one day. However, I care a lot about the people and their suffering.
As an Albanian Muslim from Epirus, they are my closest cultural kin... more so than any other and as such I feel for what they have suffered.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 31, 2009 17:00:06 GMT -5
lol melty come on who are you trying to fool, you told us once that you and your family were afraid of being of Cham origin...now all of a sudden you care for their people...
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Post by todhrimencuri on May 31, 2009 19:05:49 GMT -5
My family... yes, me, no! I mentioned that before when I spoke of the diff between the last gen and the new more nationalist one.
I, unfortunately, was once a victim of it as well. Stupid communist invented bs. They turned victims into traitors.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 31, 2009 19:32:18 GMT -5
Excuses! You are changing your mind like the wind its direction...you did always talk in a derogative way about the Chams.
Anyway...thats nothing new with you...you are giving us day by day a surprise with your changing wind directions.
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Post by epiroti on Jun 28, 2009 13:50:08 GMT -5
Kastorianos is a very good example why the Albanians and the Greeks won't like each other for at least the next 2-3 generations. The guys is smarter than the average greek, and I wouldn't say he is xenophobic neither. But talk about Chameria and all fairness and objectivity dissappears instantly. And mind you, there's no talk of border-changes with Greece. Now, if a guy like Kastorianos says things like 'the chams deserved it... I'm glad about what happenned... etc', then what hope is there that the rest of the greeks would be more willing to accept the truth and put things right (by which I mean to admit that what happenned was a fascist act, and to return the properties to their rightful owners)?!
On the individual level, we can be friends to a certain degree. Some by not bringing up "certain issues", and some by discussing them and agreeing that mistakes were made. But the second scenario is rediculously rare, and the first is hardly genuine friendship.
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