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Post by soko on May 5, 2009 14:16:55 GMT -5
After all it was these actions that brought about the mass executions oh, what a joke.. by your logic any Serb male aged 15-70, and some younger ones and women for the fun of it that Bosnian forces came across should have been killed as a "response" to war crimes...
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Post by vinjak on May 5, 2009 17:36:48 GMT -5
by your logic any Serb male aged 15-70, and some younger ones and women for the fun of it that Bosnian forces came across should have been killed as a "response" to war crimes...They were killed, by the rats that were hiding in Srebrenica, not for war crimes but because they were Serb. oh, what a joke.. Where is the joke ? I am telling you what actually happened I aint arguing whether it was right or wrong.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 5, 2009 21:53:11 GMT -5
oh, what a joke.. by your logic any Serb male aged 15-70, and some younger ones and women for the fun of it that Bosnian forces came across should have been killed as a "response" to war crimes... Except Serb soldiers only killed Muslim POWs in Srebrenica.
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Post by MiG on May 5, 2009 22:02:25 GMT -5
^ Which makes it alright?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 5, 2009 22:59:44 GMT -5
Naser Oric, one of the biggest monsters of this war is out there free. How do some ppl dare continuing this pointless conversation.
Soko, IMO, Vinjak is one of the most moderate Serbs here. If you cant find common ground with him regarding these events, then there is no point writing in here.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 5, 2009 23:04:44 GMT -5
^ Which makes it alright? I dismiss allegations that Serbs killed civilians in Srebrenica and suddenly I'm justifying murder?
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Post by Novus Dis on May 5, 2009 23:07:29 GMT -5
Naser Oric, one of the biggest monsters of this war is out there free. How do some ppl dare continuing this pointless conversation. Soko, IMO, Vinjak is one of the most moderate Serbs here. If you cant find common ground with him regarding these events, then there is no point writing in here. No such thing as a moderate anything. Either people believe in lies or they believe in the truth.
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Post by MiG on May 6, 2009 1:18:39 GMT -5
^ Which makes it alright? I dismiss allegations that Serbs killed civilians in Srebrenica and suddenly I'm justifying murder? Did I say those exact words? But remember, you said it not me.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 6, 2009 1:57:56 GMT -5
Naser Oric, one of the biggest monsters of this war is out there free. How do some ppl dare continuing this pointless conversation. Soko, IMO, Vinjak is one of the most moderate Serbs here. If you cant find common ground with him regarding these events, then there is no point writing in here. No such thing as a moderate anything. Either people believe in lies or they believe in the truth. Our world is not digital Zadnji, or discrete. And obviously people have different truths. The point is to find common ground in order to have a universally accepted set of axioms of logic, only then Serbs will be free of demonization.
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Post by todhrimencuri on May 6, 2009 2:46:31 GMT -5
Or maybe perhaps you will then your eyes into demonizing Serbs.
It works both ways Pirdhos...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 6, 2009 3:12:22 GMT -5
Or maybe perhaps you will then your eyes into demonizing Serbs. It works both ways Pirdhos... not likely Todphrihjhgfghfgi Gay Poustali btw, what does "you will then your eyes" mean? Where is the subject verb, etc?
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Post by Novus Dis on May 6, 2009 5:10:47 GMT -5
Our world is not digital Zadnji, or discrete. And obviously people have different truths. The point is to find common ground in order to have a universally accepted set of axioms of logic, only then Serbs will be free of demonization. There are many lies but only truth, Pyrros. There can only ever be a single truth.
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Post by MiG on May 6, 2009 12:20:57 GMT -5
^ Oh for the love of God... just stop.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 6, 2009 22:58:13 GMT -5
Alright, I'll stop stating the obvious.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 6, 2009 23:20:04 GMT -5
Our world is not digital Zadnji, or discrete. And obviously people have different truths. The point is to find common ground in order to have a universally accepted set of axioms of logic, only then Serbs will be free of demonization. There are many lies but only truth, Pyrros. There can only ever be a single truth. No. In the free market that you seem to adore so much, there is a whole process of negotiations before a price is agreed upon and the transaction is made. Until then, the seller *believes* that his product is worth value Vs where the buyer *believes* this product is worth value Vb, where usually Vs>Vb. In the same fashion, the boslims believe their truth, the serbs their truth, the croats their truth, the albanians believe God has given them the whole universe, the bulgarians believe that all south slav nations are bulgarians, the americans believe they went to iraq to help, and the list of "beliefs" go for ever.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 6, 2009 23:29:24 GMT -5
The value of something is how much somebody is willing to pay for it. This follows the basic principle of supply and demand. Where the lack of supply increases demand, the lack of demand increases supply and the increase in demand diminishes supply. The last rule of "increase in supply diminishes demand" doesn't consider addictive goods so it can be ruled out.
And don't you enjoy the free market or did you buy your last car from a government store?
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Post by Novus Dis on May 6, 2009 23:33:14 GMT -5
And no, there is no difference of opinion concerning events. Either something happened or it didn't. Either people believe in the truth or they believe in lies. To say that there are two mutually exclusive truths is to say that an impossible event happened.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 7, 2009 1:31:30 GMT -5
And no, there is no difference of opinion concerning events. Either something happened or it didn't. Either people believe in the truth or they believe in lies. To say that there are two mutually exclusive truths is to say that an impossible event happened. truth can only assessed by sensing the reality. what if two ppl have "different" sensors? "count" differently for instance? I pretty much believe what McLenzy said about the said "genocide". 2,000. However, since we have no videos, photos, *UNIVERSALLY* accepted witnesses, anybody can try to sell his story, in order to get a better position, which xlates eventually to .... money. As far as my last car is concerned, i bought a rather large car, in order to be seen and feared by the other homicidal moronic greek drivers. (and just to be seen by serb drivers in Serbia, you see Serbs are just wild at times, Greeks are wild and mean at the same time, thus more dangerous). If we were more civilized, i would have bought a yugo or lada, (from the government if i had to, their service would be better than our village "maistors" of destruction).
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Post by Novus Dis on May 7, 2009 2:15:57 GMT -5
That's not him believing in the truth, that's him believing in a lie. 2 plus 2 will never equal 5 no matter how much you spin the question or however you look at it.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 7, 2009 2:46:39 GMT -5
2 plus 2 will never equal 5 no matter how much you spin the question or however you look at it. exactly, except one sees 2,2, the other sees 2,3... In order to accept that the result is 4, we must first agree that what we see, what we sense is 2 and 2, if one sees 2,2 and the other 2,3, then for the first we would have 4, for the 2nd 5, (provided they have they both think by explicit modern algebra, which is also not true all the times). Zadnji, take a look at the below, the similarities with political situations are striking. In vessel carrying LNG (gas) there are about 1000 sensors measuring various values. For *critical* measurements, there is an *odd* number of sensors measuring the same thing. So if 3 or more sensors say a valve is open, and 2 or less sensors say this valve is closed, then the system will take open as the correct value. So, in this "world" of this ship, the valve is open, even if it is close, even if all sensors and the ship are f**ked up. You get my point? Thats why you will hear albos say, bbc wrote this, cnn that, ... they just propagate values from sensors... and they are the majority... ... Is such a vessel viable and reliable to carry on shipments all over the world with dangerous gas? no
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