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Post by aaayyy on May 19, 2009 15:58:05 GMT -5
Of course. The wars in the Balkan region always were very cruel unfortunately. But that's not my fault and I don't justify such ways and methods of wars..
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Post by fazlinho on May 20, 2009 3:17:05 GMT -5
I read that before the war there was Lisbon agreement where representatives of all three BiH peoples agreed to divide Bosnia into cantons - some ethnically based, some mixed. But then Izetbegovic talked to Americans and refused to implement the agreement. He wanted centralized BiH without cantons. That decision also helped a lot to start the war. During the war there were several attempts of peaceful negotiations, where they tried to persuade Bosnian Serbs to cede some territory and to persuade Bosniaks to agree to ethnic division of BiH. They failed in both cases. And that's diplomacy? That's dividing up Bosnia, that's what it is. Indeed I will never see why should we stop having rights in places where we did only because Serbs asks us to.We never ever asked them to stop having rights where we were a majority and we didn't give them up under threats. When the world made diplomacy as for Checoslovakia prior to ww2 that wasn't diplomacy that was being pussies in front of Hitler saying that indeed armies and violence can achieve anything they want. So many times I hear Serbs saying how we'd knew war was coming! What? Saying as an animal that you gonna kill me if I don't agree with you is me knowing the war is coming?? If it's our fault that we didn't want to give an inch of Bosnian territory under threats than indeed we're responsible for the war.
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Post by aaayyy on May 20, 2009 15:23:17 GMT -5
I would say cantonisation. And some cantons were supposed to be mixed. What's so wrong with that? Solution based on compromise. Diplomats should learn to make reasonable compromises.
I understand Bosnia isn't Switzerland, but if it has similar very mixed ethnic structure and long experience of peaceful coexistence, why not borrow positive features? Swisses don't look like people who stopped having rights.
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Post by fazlinho on May 20, 2009 15:33:34 GMT -5
No, there would be 3 ethnic cantons and only 1 non-ethnic city, Sarajevo. Obviously where we are a slight majority (Sarajevo) we must accept to share powers with others while others don't have to do it with us. The thing is Switzerland's population was NOT mixed in every part of the country, there were 3 distinct ethnic regions already, and that's how Switzerland was born. In Bosnia instead there was not one major pure ethnic region. Hell this is the 1991 map of BiH en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eth_relations_1991_bih.gifThat's the reason. I don't see one single reason why should anyone have change his territory.
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