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Post by kapetan on Jul 9, 2008 14:26:29 GMT -5
whatever your view is...thought it was interestning none the less Putnams Home Cyclopedia" strana 116 napisano 1851 godine "The religion is of course Mohammedan, but part of the inhabitants belong to the Greek church. The Bosnians are almost indepedant..." A New and Comprehensive Gazetteer By George Newenham strana 94 Europe past and present geography manual 1850 strana 633 "one 3rd of bosniaks are mohammedans and the remaining two thrirds equaly divided between greek and latin churches".
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 9, 2008 15:04:55 GMT -5
Those who control the present...
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Post by kapetan on Jul 9, 2008 15:12:14 GMT -5
Lol of course. Whatever was I thinking? It's allllll one big conpsiracy, spanning centuries.
I apologize my Bosnian Serb brother.
rofl
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 9, 2008 15:13:48 GMT -5
Hahahahahaha
Serbs are hands down the most paranoid people.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 9, 2008 21:12:23 GMT -5
Lol of course. Whatever was I thinking? It's allllll one big conpsiracy, spanning centuries. I apologize my Bosnian Serb brother. rofl Conspiracy? No, I just meant that “history” changes with the times. Hahahahahaha Serbs are hands down the most paranoid people. I disagree for I have watched TV in FBH (last time was in 2004) and Muslims blame EVERYTHING on the Serb Republic.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 9, 2008 21:15:08 GMT -5
Well yes lol. It does. It's supposed to. Is there something wrong with that? As far as I know that's how the world and everything in it progresses.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 9, 2008 21:20:18 GMT -5
Well yes lol. It does. It's supposed to. Is there something wrong with that? As far as I know that's how the world and everything in it progresses. How can someone learn from the past if the past is a lie?
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Post by kapetan on Jul 9, 2008 21:30:33 GMT -5
Well yes lol. It does. It's supposed to. Is there something wrong with that? As far as I know that's how the world and everything in it progresses. How can someone learn from the past if the past is a lie? ...........I have no idea how you got "the past is a lie" from me saying as history goes, things change, history changes. By change I didn't mean what happend in the past is erased and becomes a lie.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 9, 2008 21:39:02 GMT -5
...........I have no idea how you got "the past is a lie" from me saying as history goes, things change, history changes. By change I didn't mean what happend in the past is erased and becomes a lie. So by changing history you mean... a different interpretation?
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Post by kapetan on Jul 9, 2008 21:53:30 GMT -5
...........I have no idea how you got "the past is a lie" from me saying as history goes, things change, history changes. By change I didn't mean what happend in the past is erased and becomes a lie. So by changing history you mean... a different interpretation? lol no, no....to sum it up as simply as possible..all i meant was "things change". time goes on and things change. i meant nothing about past history being rewritten or changed or interperted different (although obviosly that happens)
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Post by zgembo on Jul 9, 2008 23:01:31 GMT -5
I don't get what this proves. Bosniaks is used interchangeably with Bosnians. Today, Muslims insist they are the only Bosniaks. That's why I refuse to use the word.
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Post by Trazi Vise on Jul 10, 2008 11:29:37 GMT -5
Yes, they are right, you/we are Pannonians :-) Shock horror, hot off the press!
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 10, 2008 12:13:13 GMT -5
Yes, they are right, you/we are Pannonians :-) Shock horror, hot off the press! So that's why you/we don't speak Illyrian and have Slavic customs/traditions!
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Post by Trazi Vise on Jul 10, 2008 12:33:53 GMT -5
^^^I am not like you mate.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 10, 2008 15:06:43 GMT -5
I don't get what this proves. Bosniaks is used interchangeably with Bosnians. Today, Muslims insist they are the only Bosniaks. That's why I refuse to use the word. Umm...no I don't..I insist exactly the opposite. It just shows that a Bosnian identity seperate from Serbian and Croatian obviosly existed then and all inhabitants were called Bosnians/Bosniaks as well.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 10, 2008 16:45:09 GMT -5
^^^I am not like you mate. So you’re Italian? Umm...no I don't..I insist exactly the opposite. It just shows that a Bosnian identity seperate from Serbian and Croatian obviosly existed then and all inhabitants were called Bosnians/Bosniaks as well. “Bosniak” is a propaganda term created by the Austrians to legitimise the Muslim occupants as the single heirs of Bosnia. Basically it is an attempt to create an ethnicity out of thin air.
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Post by MiG on Jul 10, 2008 17:14:23 GMT -5
^^^I am not like you mate. So you’re Italian? Umm...no I don't..I insist exactly the opposite. It just shows that a Bosnian identity seperate from Serbian and Croatian obviosly existed then and all inhabitants were called Bosnians/Bosniaks as well. “Bosniak” is a propaganda term created by the Austrians to legitimise the Muslim occupants as the single heirs of Bosnia. Basically it is an attempt to create an ethnicity out of thin air. Then why does everyone in the world know what a Bosniak is, and accept it?
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Post by kapetan on Jul 10, 2008 17:48:27 GMT -5
^^^I am not like you mate. So you’re Italian? Umm...no I don't..I insist exactly the opposite. It just shows that a Bosnian identity seperate from Serbian and Croatian obviosly existed then and all inhabitants were called Bosnians/Bosniaks as well. “Bosniak” is a propaganda term created by the Austrians to legitimise the Muslim occupants as the single heirs of Bosnia. Basically it is an attempt to create an ethnicity out of thin air. rofl it's a historic fact bosniak developed in ottoman times from the earlier word bosnjanin which was used as early as ban kulin. it's in his own writings. in tvrtko's too. seriosly..look up shit before talking, this argument is getting tired. weather regional or ethnic or both it is a valid identity. sorry.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 10, 2008 18:35:57 GMT -5
Then why does everyone in the world know what a Bosniak is, and accept it? Everyone in the world you say? Prove it. rofl it's a historic fact bosniak developed in ottoman times from the earlier word bosnjanin which was used as early as ban kulin. it's in his own writings. in tvrtko's too. seriosly..look up s**t before talking, this argument is getting tired. weather regional or ethnic or both it is a valid identity. sorry. Not really. Muslims in Bosnia (depending on where they are located) are descended from either Serbs or Croats (90% Serb, 10% Croat). Since their ethnicity is either Serb or Croat they cant be the pseudo ethnicity known as “Bosniak.”
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Post by Trazi Vise on Jul 11, 2008 2:52:45 GMT -5
^^^Please stop being a smart ass at this forum.
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