Trazi Vise
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Post by Trazi Vise on Apr 9, 2009 8:46:42 GMT -5
Yes the Germans eventually became the bad guys; however our constitution had nothing to do with the German's and the Ustasa history, establishment and theory had nothing to do with that German Nazi era. It was established long before Hitler could even walk :-)
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Post by dekimontenegro on Apr 9, 2009 8:52:26 GMT -5
Don't want to be rude illyria but i have noticed you are a young and very pretty Lady, do you really think you need to waste your time on such nonsense, or is this something an overpowering boyfriend got you into, surely you are too busy going out to disco's and dating to give a toss about Hitler!
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Trazi Vise
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Post by Trazi Vise on Apr 9, 2009 9:07:04 GMT -5
I always had a passion for European history, all of it...blame the books laying round at home and my further curiosity. Nothing to do with any boyfriend etc...I don't have one! Disco's, you kidding right? Where I can't hear people talk, not for me :-)
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Post by dekimontenegro on Apr 9, 2009 9:10:35 GMT -5
Mein Kampf is not one of those book is it?[just kidding]
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Post by SKORIC on Apr 9, 2009 9:15:21 GMT -5
Wrong word, you picking out everything against all things Croatian better? The quote above was saying "if" we were what you think we are i.e Ustase, yes we would have created what I had said instead of leaving. You clearly can't read proper English in that case. I don't need your nice to know stories of your baba...because I'm sure you don't want to hear that my grandfathers father was killed by Ustase in front of him for helping his secular/in no man's land brother in 1944. How does that make me an Ustasa, grow up. I wasnt talking to you when i shared that story. I simply shared it with the thread. I said if they can have Cro friends after their experiences then i dont see why the younger ones who dont have those bad experiences fight at the tennis. You clearly cant read english. Grow up And i said back then MOST Croats in Australia are ustase. and you replied if most were we would have a hrvatska to the drina rofl stop with the wet dreams ustasa
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Trazi Vise
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Post by Trazi Vise on Apr 9, 2009 9:26:28 GMT -5
That's right I answered your q, most arn't and enough said. Oh I have no dreams, I am realistic about that....and I don't mish mash stories upon stories as you do ... from this thread into tennis then into your baba...talk about one thing at a time ! :-)
I havn't read MK yet only short extracts....I prefer Eva Peron's La Razón de Mi Vida...
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Post by Novus Dis on Apr 9, 2009 9:28:40 GMT -5
You clearly know nothing about the silencing of many Croatian truths back in Croatia. I have personal emails/message that I could provide with that mentality personally trying to silence and intimidate such individuals and group. So please don't talk govno that "moderate" Croats are not hard and trying to curb our freedom and history. In any case "this type of behaviour" you mention is freedom of speech. Threats, assault and vandalism is freedom of speech? I mean I wouldn't care if a bunch of idiots wish to shout Nazi slogans and behave like lunatics (unless they were Serbs in which case I would try to persuade them to see how stupid their beliefs and actions are) but these Ustashi take it further than that. As I posted before, a Croat friend of mine was assaulted by Ustashi for not being an Ustasha (and having Serb friends). It really is only a short step from threatening violence to committing it.
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Post by SKORIC on Apr 9, 2009 9:33:31 GMT -5
I can share whatever stories i like. You did the same thing in this thread before me LOL... Some of these kids are not like me, many were born over there; you can't judge a whole group. I know one man in particular who faught in Vukovar and lost 1 child and his wife. The other is here with him. So can't blame them for being a little less forgiving. illyria i dont need to know your friends nice to know stories ok
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Post by Trazi Vise on Apr 9, 2009 9:35:03 GMT -5
My quote above does not mention Ustase and what your answer to it was about vandalism they apparatnly cause etc..., I was reffering to Croats and Croatia in general.
Boo hooo he was assulted by Ustase, my great grandfather was killed by them, am I crying. Get over it.
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Post by SKORIC on Apr 9, 2009 9:50:13 GMT -5
oh and as for this.. That was one story LOL If my girlfriends baba can have Croatian friends after having 3 near death experiences by the ustase when she was 12 including one putting a knife to her throat and if my deda can have Croatian friends even though he's one of the biggest Chetniks there is (even one gave him a tape full of Chetnik songs) then i dont see why the young ones are always fighting at tennis matches.
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Post by Novus Dis on Apr 9, 2009 11:09:05 GMT -5
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Post by Novus Dis on Apr 9, 2009 11:09:40 GMT -5
I suppose I should add "terrorism" to the list.
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Post by paja on Apr 9, 2009 15:22:40 GMT -5
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Post by Trazi Vise on Apr 9, 2009 22:08:21 GMT -5
And how are these attampts linked to the Ustase or of any Croatian organisation? hahahah ASIO did their job back then and found nothing, sweet f all :-) You can't catch something that's not there :-)
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Post by Novus Dis on Apr 9, 2009 22:20:51 GMT -5
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Post by Trazi Vise on Apr 9, 2009 22:45:04 GMT -5
And your point is? Who did it, it's like finding Where's Wally......:-)
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Post by Novus Dis on Apr 9, 2009 23:21:05 GMT -5
ASIO funded and trained the Ustashi. They also allowed them to openly operate in Australia.
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Post by Trazi Vise on Apr 9, 2009 23:47:19 GMT -5
lol ASIO funded it, that's why they used to raid our houses...hahahaha rofl majorly...anyway there's no proof and people responsible have not been found. Case closed :-)
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Post by Novus Dis on Apr 10, 2009 0:28:50 GMT -5
lol ASIO funded it, that's why they used to raid our houses...hahahaha rofl majorly...anyway there's no proof and people responsible have not been found. Case closed :-) No proof you say.WAIT! lol ASIO funded it, that's why they used to raid our houses...hahahaha rofl majorly...anyway there's no proof and people responsible have not been found. Case closed :-) ASIO funded it, that's why they used to raid our houses that's why they used to raid our houses WAT. In any case, if you had actually read the article you would know that the tolerance of ASIO for the Ustasha started to dwindle by the 1980s.
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Post by SKORIC on Apr 10, 2009 2:22:11 GMT -5
Illyria defending nazi's:
;D
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