Wiki mentions settlers from Epirus and Albania and this
The earliest written document that marks the beginning of Arbanasi's history is a royal decree by the Ottoman sultan Suleiman the Magnificent from 1538, according to which the sultan offered the lands of the modern localities of Arbanasi, Lyaskovets, Gorna Oryahovitsa and Dolna Oryahovitsa to his son-in-law Grand Vizier Rustem Pasha as a gift. The four villages are united under the name Arnaud Kariyeleri ("the Albanian villages") in the document, and the first settlers may have been Albanians and Greeks from Epirus; although Albanian-sounding names could be found in the Ottoman tax registers, Orthodox and Slavic names already prevailed.
Arbanasi was a stronghold of Greek cultural affiliation for centuries. Greek language was official in the town, there was a Greek school and divine services were in Greek. This, however, did not reflect the local population's national self-consciousness, as Arbanasi residents took part in the organized armed struggle of Bulgarians that ultimately led to the Liberation of Bulgaria from Ottoman rule as a consequence of the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78.
Post by todhrimencuri on Jul 22, 2009 5:19:06 GMT -5
They were Albanians from Epirus. Eitherway, the Albanian population didnt last long:
The four villages are united under the name Arnaud Kariyeleri ("the Albanian villages") in the document, and the first settlers may have been Albanians and Greeks from Epirus; although Albanian-sounding names could be found in the Ottoman tax registers,Orthodox and Slavic names already prevailed.
Last Edit: Jul 22, 2009 5:19:32 GMT -5 by todhrimencuri
Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 22, 2009 6:43:51 GMT -5
in Epiros albo-sounding (or non-greek sounding) last names are very common. Also toponyms are slavic. However, 1) last names were uncommon pre-1800 (ppl didnt have last names) 2) there are ZERO memories of anything slavic-albanian
a really weird situation.
So, yes the last names in arbanasi might sound albo, however the owners (and according to the article) spoke greek language, smth unique among the villages of this area, as the article notes.
Post by todhrimencuri on Jul 23, 2009 12:58:54 GMT -5
The population was mixed from the get-go but eventually Greek church dominated and the Albanian population was hellenized. In fact, a part of this population of Albanians was still alive during the Russo-Turkish War and went on the side of the Russians. It was largely Orthodox and tied to the Greek liturgical church, since Albanians had no church until 1937.
1) last names were uncommon pre-1800 (ppl didnt have last names)
Surnames did exist in the 1800s and even existed prior. Albanians had surnames even in the 15th century. They were common. Thats how people can keep track of family records as far back as 500 years. Many had them changed later on during the nation-state era.
Anyway, this didnt say surnames... but names. Meaning it could just be the first name of the man of the house in a registry.
Last Edit: Jul 23, 2009 13:00:41 GMT -5 by todhrimencuri
In 1726 Albanian refugees (from Shkoder region) fleeing the Turks, founded a colony just ouside of Zadar Croatia. This colony came to be called Arbanasi (the Albanians).
In Zadar these refugees were settled first around Zemunik and some later moved to Borgo Errizzo ( later called “Arbanasi”) one mile outside of Zadar, nowadays a suburb of Zadar. Zemunik was about 14 kilometres east from Zadar. Overtime the Arbanasi refugees slowly moved to Zadar itself, to Ploce, Crno and Dracevac Zadarski.
A LIST OF ARBANASI FAMILY NAMES Bulic, Cucula, Curkovic, Dadic, Dešpalj, Duka, Gjergja, Jelenkovic, Jovic, Kalmeta, Karuc, Kotlar, Krstic, Maršan, Marušic, Matešic, Mazija, Morovic, Musap, Mužanovic, Nikpalj, Perovic, Petani, Ratkovic, Relja-vic, Smolcic, Stipcevic, Tomas, vic, Vukic
Last Edit: Nov 9, 2009 14:56:08 GMT -5 by todhrimencuri
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