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Post by Kanaris on Sept 26, 2009 22:14:35 GMT -5
I dunno..but Cyprus was let in before Turkey..... so the EU is our allies.....
When in Europe you have Europe on your side..when you're stinking thirdworld country right smack in the middle Europe ..with an abundance of kneepads.... you got America...
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Post by leshte on Sept 26, 2009 22:40:03 GMT -5
Like the Brits; right Kanaris? Greek inat.
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 27, 2009 1:15:43 GMT -5
Brits are not European....
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Post by ilirdardani on Sept 27, 2009 10:59:34 GMT -5
^ They're more European than Greece that's for sure, at least they have rights for minorities.
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Post by worldcit on Sept 27, 2009 12:48:03 GMT -5
Yes maybe we haven't 100% greek Blood . It will be stupidy for every country to say this . We got our mixies as Albania has, as Bulgaria has . The language can't be spread from the one generation to the other if the older generaion did not speak it . The laguage did't send to a group of ppl from the god ,but from the previous generation ,only from their forefathers. And we speak greek because our forefathers spoke.Nor the calture . You are wrong rex we are romioi with ofcourse some mixies . Directly from romious of Byzantioum . how then arvanitas from albanian speakers turned into greek speakers even there previous generations spoke albanian dialect, or aboriginal people in South America are Spanish speakers while their priovious generations spoke native tongues....
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Post by Kassandros on Sept 27, 2009 13:52:02 GMT -5
North Cyprous already begs on the knees for a Cypriot OK! They just make some last spasmodic moves... and the end is coming. The end is called EU... and that is where they try to enter by any means... them and Turkey.. but Cypriots will have the final word... and Turks know it. The last 2 years, Turks had a progress in talkings 1000 million times more than the past 35 years. ;D Wait and see... Slowly but steadily.. they're becoming civilized and they'll give back what they have grabed with occupation. Budalades have started to understand that their 70 million are not enough in front of the Greek brain cells... Wait and see the future... We never forget... and you gonna see it in action. They already feel it... Redbaron.. do yourselves a favor; For your first time in history.. try to ally with the winners. Try is just for a change! ;D ;D Ok Basil, keep thinking that the Turks will give back Northern Cyprus because they are stupid and out smarted by the Greek brain cells. As for the allies can you please list who do you think are Albanian's allies and the Greeks allies? They will give it. Just wait and watch. I thing you didnt understood what I said; I will say it once more; "The last 4 years they have made such a progress in talkings.. than the last 35 years!" To remind you.. the last 4 years are the years they are blocked from Cyprous.. Do the calculations.. and predict the future. Thinks are simple for Turkey; EU..without occupation.. or no-EU and occupation. Let us see what they will choose... Europe and a hard currency... or.. Asia and Turkish lira..? ;D ;D By the way. Greece's allies is the hard core of EU... and that is what interest us. Albania's allies in the begging were the English, Americans, Turks.. and generally.. all the good boys of world politics ;D I think lately.. Albania changes and understands that is far away from Ankara, London and Whashigton... and closer to Athens, and Brusseles.. Taking the fact the Albanian history is full of mistakes on choosing allies..... I think this time, Albanians are thinking twice.. We'll see.. we'll see... Its too early to speak about Albania and allies right now. For the time being.. whoever gives something to Albania is a God... and 10 days later that say a "no" to Albania is an enemy. For the time being Albania is not mature enough to have allies or enemies. It still try to find where it belongs in the world politics..
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Post by Digenis on Sept 27, 2009 16:03:30 GMT -5
We all are west now .And Greece was ,is and will be west . USA and UK will continue to be our allies even if we haven't 100% same opinion and interest theoriticaly conflict . We all are going together .
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Post by redbaron on Sept 27, 2009 17:34:26 GMT -5
Thinks are simple for Turkey; EU..without occupation.. or no-EU and occupation. Let us see what they will choose... Europe and a hard currency... or.. Asia and Turkish lira..? You would like to be that way but as it stands now it is not because of Cyprus that Turkey is not in the EU. Keep in mind that although not an economic power Turkey will change the balances in the EU if is to be admitted. It is a big a$$ country of 73 million people second after Germany.The reason that opponents of Turkey in EU mention are: lack of reforms, and the french one that turkey is not an European country.
By the way. Greece's allies is the hard core of EU... and that is what interest us. Albania's allies in the begging were the English, Americans, Turks.. and generally.. all the good boys of world politics ;D I think lately.. Albania changes and understands that is far away from Ankara, London and Whashigton... and closer to Athens, and Brusseles.. Taking the fact the Albanian history is full of mistakes on choosing allies..... I think this time, Albanians are thinking twice.. We'll see.. we'll see... Its too early to speak about Albania and allies right now. For the time being.. whoever gives something to Albania is a God... and 10 days later that say a "no" to Albania is an enemy. For the time being Albania is not mature enough to have allies or enemies. It still try to find where it belongs in the world politics.. The hardcore of EU? Which countries are you referring to? What have these Greek allies have done to stop the Turkish invasion of Cyprus or help restore the Greek power in northern Cyprus?
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 27, 2009 18:49:40 GMT -5
What they have done? You know the answers, Albanian.
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Post by redbaron on Sept 27, 2009 18:56:47 GMT -5
What they have done? You know the answers, Albanian. It looks like you don't,Greek.
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 27, 2009 19:05:00 GMT -5
Listen man.... The EU practically gave Greece most of Cyprus.... one passport no limit in transfers... it joined the mother land... soon the rest will fall in place .... and when your turn comes.... you will be begging for mercy....but thats 50 years away... so I don't have to see it which is good.
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Post by redbaron on Sept 27, 2009 22:46:04 GMT -5
Listen man.... The EU practically gave Greece most of Cyprus.... one passport no limit in transfers... it joined the mother land... soon the rest will fall in place .... and when your turn comes.... you will be begging for mercy....but thats 50 years away... so I don't have to see it which is good. That is the right word,most of Cyprus not all of Cyprus. And why is EU giving Greece only a part of what was all Greek?
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 27, 2009 22:48:40 GMT -5
Cause the EU don't want to put all the Cypriot Turks on a boat and sink it.
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Post by insomniac on Sept 28, 2009 15:19:59 GMT -5
EU has breastfed Greece for 30 years now. And it is still a net gainer country. Doh!!! I hope my country does not pick up this mentality. I hope it doesn't infect us. I don't believe we will after all Albanians are much more hard workers.
Let's hope Albania does not get infected by the spillover effect of mentality/culture/attitudes of our southerly neighbor. About work ethics and life. I truly hope after 30 years we start to give and self rely more. Rather than still be in mommas basement.
It will be a shame, otherwise.
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 28, 2009 16:47:22 GMT -5
The candy stopped a few years ago....
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Post by insomniac on Sept 28, 2009 16:51:10 GMT -5
Really? This is just one year ago. Greece, Poland and Spain are those who benefit the most from EU funds.
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 28, 2009 17:00:27 GMT -5
At least Cyprus is giving back..... ha ha ha That graph is incomplete there are other variables...
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Post by Patrinos on Sept 28, 2009 17:02:52 GMT -5
^Is that bad... ;D Greece gives them double money to buy ...guns... because of our budala gitones...who want some...greek islands..
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Post by todhrimencuri on Sept 28, 2009 17:53:30 GMT -5
Like I said, Albania need to demediterreanize its mentality. We are a people who can stand being unemployed while taking money out for ridiculous vacations, or spending exhorbitant amount for coffee without first securing a future. Albanian youths have no aspirations, nothing to go on, they lazy around in cafes spending money they technically shouldnt have (they only have it because someone else is working like a dog in Germany, Greece or Italy).
Albanian men show off how much they want others to think they have and then complain afterwards about how little. Everyone tries to scheme the govt in some way.... its pathetic.
Albania needs to learn some nice Germanic-Protestant work ethic.
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Post by Patrinos on Sept 28, 2009 18:41:58 GMT -5
Albania needs to learn some nice Germanic-Protestant work ethic. You are confusing...Germanic protestant ethics combined with Osmanlilik, sunet and nargile seems weird... ;D ;D
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