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Post by Kanaris on Sept 24, 2009 19:10:45 GMT -5
You guys actually think you're forefathers were tough? They were nothing but turncoat scumbags hiding behind turks... It's no secret when the Byzantines were in their glory days you sucked their balls... then when the Ottomans came you sucked theirs.... they all of a sudden they were no more big balls for you to suckle... you tried a bit with the Italians and the Nazis... but theirs was dry....
Pathetic afterbirths..
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Post by redbaron on Sept 24, 2009 22:30:15 GMT -5
You guys actually think you're forefathers were tough? They were nothing but turncoat scumbags hiding behind turks... It's no secret when the Byzantines were in their glory days you sucked their balls... then when the Ottomans came you sucked theirs.... they all of a sudden they were no more big balls for you to suckle... you tried a bit with the Italians and the Nazis... but theirs was dry.... Pathetic afterbirths.. Ball sucking is a typical Greek tradition.Let's talk about the present because everyone can speculate about what happened in the past. Show us how tough you Greeks are. You Greeks know were Northern Cyprus is, go and get it back from the Turks.One beautiful morning a Turkish general wakes up all pissed off and orders his pilots:Guys let's go and pee over Greek skies.And they do.End of story.Greeks just pray that the Turkish general doesn't wake up with blue balls because he will not only make you suck them but he might also decide to take over Southern Cyprus just for the fun of it.
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Post by Gigolo on Sept 25, 2009 1:21:01 GMT -5
Blueprint for Greek-Albanian thread:
Radical Greek: Weak Albanian Muslims! Ah ha! Ass kissers! There's no Greek Muslims! We don't change! (Conviniently leaves out the part about killing or expelling them all).
Atheist teenage Albanian kid from diaspora ashamed of Islam feeling the need to play up all things "Western" and "European" because that's his life now anyway: No, we don't want Islam. Islam is evil! Albanian muslims aren't Albanians! I decided!
Radical Greek: Who you foolin'? You are Turkz! Greekz iz special dawg! You ain't! Fall back playa! WHUT! *hiding own inferiority complex*
Atheist Albanian kid from diaspora: I must prove we are not Muslims by hating on Muslims even more then this Greek! Argh! I'm gonna try so hard to ruin the relative harmony Albanians of all faiths have enjoyed, for the sake of looking more Western and spiting some Greeks! Fawk yea! Lets have civil war!
Radical Greek: What b***h? You gona wage Jihad?
Albanian: Ah ha you guys have male buttsekz.
Normal person: You guys are idiots and dorks. Half of you act like what Greeks or Albanians did 100 years ago is your personal achievement today. Every Greek seems to think because they had Alexander the Great or Plato, they're inheritely a badass warrior with a 190 IQ. Get out your mama's basement f*ggot.
Shut the hell up.
A man's belif about his own soul and God (or lack of), is his own business and his quality as a man shouldn't be judged by it. Anti-religious extremists are as bad as religous extremists in terms of ignorance and attitude. Grow up.
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Post by donnie on Sept 25, 2009 2:50:38 GMT -5
You guys actually think you're forefathers were tough? They were nothing but turncoat scumbags hiding behind turks... It's no secret when the Byzantines were in their glory days you sucked their balls... then when the Ottomans came you sucked theirs.... they all of a sudden they were no more big balls for you to suckle... you tried a bit with the Italians and the Nazis... but theirs was dry.... Pathetic afterbirths.. Interesting ... is it a coincidence or not that Greeks during discussions always make analogies to/illustrate with ball/c0ck sucking? Is there smth you want to say to us, smth you're not telling us and think we don't know. As far as history goes; Kanaris, you're the one who still maintains 1250 as the year of our arrival. History trully isn't your domain, rather you seem to know little to nothing on this subject. The tone of Byzantine historians describing my ancestors is anything but positive and does not support your claims ... rather they see them as invading highlanders devestating classical Greece. Byzantine emperors like Andronicus tried subduing the Albanians through various means, including the introduction of Turkish mercenaries to hunt down and enslave the rebels. Same tactics were employed against the Albanians of Peloponessus by the Palaiologos brothers, the lords of Mystra. After such tactics, you were and are not in position to tell us off about "collaborating" with the Turks! The Turks we've discussed a million times ... as for Italians, read about the battle of Vlore; regular peasants bringing the Italians down and liberating our porte. WWII caught us without defenses, our treacherous king left us without a proper army, unlike you who had quite the time to establish and organize your military institution.
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Post by Patrinos on Sept 25, 2009 2:56:53 GMT -5
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Post by jonleka on Sept 25, 2009 3:08:40 GMT -5
No kanaris we took their relegion kept the yatagan and left the balls for you and still haven't got over it yet, let it go man after all it was just the balls right. History tells its all there all you have to do is read.
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Post by ioan on Sept 25, 2009 3:32:19 GMT -5
EU is a pretty recent creation. Actually in the last 20 years it has gotten more popular. Before that it was just European Economic Commission and before that European Coal and Steel community. Actually it was the European Economic COMMUNITY. Actually there WERE 3 community European Coal and Steel community, created 1952 (ceased to exist in 2002). European Economic COMMUNITY and European Atomic Energy Community (EURATOM), both created in 1958 - both EXIST AT PRESENT. European Union was created in 1992 and it consist of 3 pillars: 1 st pillar are the communities, 2nd and 3rd are common policies in the external policy and the criminal cooperation.
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Post by Patrinos on Sept 25, 2009 4:34:22 GMT -5
No kanaris we took their relegion kept the yatagan and left the balls for you and still haven't got over it yet, let it go man after all it was just the balls right. History tells its all there all you have to do is read. One after the other...all the tourkalvanoi here show the "tourkomelty" they have inside...
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 25, 2009 5:55:40 GMT -5
Look at yourselves that is the result. Spreading lies on the internet about yourselves is your forte.You are ridiculous and pathetic...Really no accomplishments in any field.... One guy with the snipped dick says we took the best from the Turks... Thats like saying we took the best from the Nazis..bravo ... Another points out to some tiny obscure battle that no one but yourselves are aware of that you beat the Italians...same way you beat the Greek army in WW2. Sad we have come to this.. Yes I believe you came to the Balkans around 1250.... it's not my fault there's no history written before that of you... People are waking up to that.... that is a battle for your very existence.. Probably to be fought on the internet with more fabricated fantasies...I wish you luck on that one.
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Post by donnie on Sept 25, 2009 6:32:06 GMT -5
Funny how you seem so knowing on matters perceived as negative by you, yet so ignorant of "insignificant" battles supposedly known only by us, like Vlore 1920 ... well, if you're so ignorant, why venture into the discussion to begin with?
LOL, why 1250? You could do better, say 1520? Please tell, since you hate fabrications and lies so much and only base your arguments on raw facts and not your rear end, why 1250 of all years? You've used this number perpetually, tell us where you get it ...
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Post by kolonia on Sept 25, 2009 7:44:48 GMT -5
What the fuck is wrong with Kanaris in the past few days, he has been very offensive, and in every post I see him trying to be smart...oohhh very bad boy you Canaris, how long has the doctor gave you?
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Post by L0gjICK on Sept 25, 2009 7:56:43 GMT -5
Kanaris is what Slavs would call a "Seljak." He really doesn't know what he's speaking about and just babbles for shits and giggles. I can't take him serious. Especially when he mentions Albanian Muslims d*cks in every other post.
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 25, 2009 8:15:39 GMT -5
I don't see any mention of you here prior to 1250
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Post by donnie on Sept 25, 2009 8:20:17 GMT -5
How can I formulate myself differently for you to understand; I am not talking about references to our people before 1250, I am asking you why you chose this date exactly. You say it's this date when we were firstly mentioned, in what chronicle was that? Who was the author and what was the context? Why 1250 and not 1251 or 1272 or 1403 ... what happened 1250?
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Post by epiroti on Sept 25, 2009 8:44:32 GMT -5
You guys actually think you're forefathers were tough? They were nothing but turncoat scumbags hiding behind turks... It's no secret when the Byzantines were in their glory days you sucked their balls... then when the Ottomans came you sucked theirs.... they all of a sudden they were no more big balls for you to suckle... you tried a bit with the Italians and the Nazis... but theirs was dry....
Pathetic afterbirths.. How does one even start a reply to such a post?! When readers become familiar with Canaris, the post that I quoted doesn't deserve much attention really. As Donnie said, he has zero knowledge of history. It's fair enough that he can't be bothered to take a trip to the local library (or would be fair, if he didn't get involved in historic discussions). But from time to time, members of this forum have posted some insightful and well-referenced articles, or written on historic events in the same way. If Canaris had a clear mind, he would have learnt something. But he doesn't want to learn anything that goes counter to his preconceived beliefs. I would like to stop exactly at this point for a moment. As the vast majority of Greeks, he grew up with a deep dislike of Turks. Of course, he never examined the reasons for that hatred - at most he selected certains facts to justify it. A degree of dislike is certainly understood - afterall, they did get exploited by the ottomans, as their subjects. But isn't it ironic that at the same time, they are proud of the Byzantine Empire? And then there is the dislike for almost anything muslim. Your religious and ethnic intolerance deserves a whole book, or thesis, and merely a paragraph doesn't do it justice. Of course, all these intolerances and xenophobia (please focus on the meaning of the sentence and resist the urge of being blinded by pride just because you noticed me using a greek word) have clever and manipulating methods to justify themselves. But other than to the ones who are under their influences, the lack of their logical cohesion is obvious to everybody else. The fear - let's call it "discomfort" - that you feel when coming across facts that contradict your beliefs strangles your logic, manipulates it: it plays down the significance of the new evidence that you come across, or forces your attention to focus on something else, or simply denies the fact. All to maintain your pre-established beliefs. Now, almost nobody is equipted with the right beliefs or knowledge on everything, and it is human nature that beliefs must be updated, refined, changed. Another time when your kind (intellectually speaking, not ethnically) does this is when you reply to an argument - you just miss the point and focus your energies and reply on some insignificant aspect of the argument. Because you are too much of a pu$$y to overcome the "discomfort" that you feel when faced with opposing evidence. And/or you are too fvcking dumb to realise that it is in your best interest to not see new evidence as threatening, and the need to be flexible with your beliefs. The religion of my people is none of your concern. And if being mercenaries brought them rewards, they had no reason why to consider whether you agreed with them or not. Don't you ever forget that my nation came very close to anihilation because of our wars against the ottomans in the 15th century. Your nation has never even come close to that.
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 25, 2009 9:12:57 GMT -5
Listen you moron.... the religion of your people is my concern.... Albanians were roaming the Aegean as Turk lapdogs butchering Greeks... so fuck off with that crap....
I have no knowledge of history....? I suppose any of you here have? 90% of the stuff you write is fabricated pathetic fantasies.. no one has really brought forth anything solid.. Donnie is a fine orator but his posts really have no substance....
You can mock me all you can't and I really don't give a chit... but you got nothing really.. to back up your claims.... call me old or whatever..attack me personally when you got empty hands...
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Post by rex362 on Sept 25, 2009 9:21:27 GMT -5
Albanians should make Chios a vacation destination .
Canaris is not getting any pounani at home and he don't know how to get some on the outside.....
don't use that crap on craigslist you will get busted or robbed
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Post by epiroti on Sept 25, 2009 9:26:33 GMT -5
The reference to the age wasn't supposed to be an insult. I removed that part.
No, the religion isn't your concern because of the mercenary days. It is your concern because it differs from that cross you have tattooed on your arm/shoulder.
And if you want to engage people in genuine debates, it is not very hard to educate yourself in how to debate or construct and evaluate arguments. But there is no such desire on your part. You only wish to hold tight to your phantasy, simplified, and xenophobic world.
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Post by rex362 on Sept 25, 2009 9:29:29 GMT -5
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Post by donnie on Sept 25, 2009 10:45:34 GMT -5
Come on ffs -- I just asked you a simple question. Why 1250 of all years?
What does being mercenaries have to do with religion? Albanians were hunting Greeks like rabbits even before the Turks came, but I don't expect you to understand since, again, you're clueless when it comes to history. You still haven't answered a simple question of mine, namely why you choose the year of 1250 as the date of our genesis, our first mentioning in historical documents ... why that year, I'm just intrigued ... or could it be that you are infact the one fabricating "facts" ?
Those hunting days, by the way, see it as payback for the ol' days when you did the same ... in the history of inter-ethnic relations between our peoples, the Greeks have always been the one to start the provocations.
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