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Post by leshte on Aug 16, 2009 13:35:36 GMT -5
I don't believe that's accurate. When for example ( I know many of the religious people here will disagree) Jesus and Mohamed where alive they were the creators of Islam and Christianity. They single-handedly created those religions and they were the hierarchy of those movements that later on we came to know them as Christianity and Islam. The Mullahs and the Popes just replaced them. In this case it is clear to see that such a creation did not come from the masses or the popullation but rather from individuals; in this case Mohamed and Jesus. People bought into that later on and a bigger movement was created. With the death of Jesus and Mohamed my personal belief is that once the masses started buying into these respective religions we see the sinister goals of those in the hierarchy; that is control over the masses.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Aug 16, 2009 13:46:08 GMT -5
We know next to nothing about Jesus and his real teachings. As far as we know, he was a reformer of Judaism. Muhammed was a leader of the Arabs who claimed to have had a religious epiphany. We know little about him as well.
Absolutely not. Religion isnt just created. The hierarchy of Christianity is a development that occurred over hundreds of years after Jesus' death. Jesus did not create the Patriarchate nor Bishops, nor the Papacy, nor any of that. Jesus was a mystical figure who was the foundation of a new sect of Judaism, that is it. He probably spoke only Aramaic, so he would not have known what Episcopal or Archapatriarch even meant. These were later development that occurred as Christianity evolved into its own faith over hundreds or years.
Same with Islam, there were no Mullahs or anything of the such in Muhammed's time. These were men who were necessary only once there was a structured religion to teach, once the Quran and Hadiths were compiled, in which case religious jurists became necessary in Islam.
Religious hierarchy comes about as the faith expands and becomes more complex. It takes a long period of time for that to happen. As this happens, men are necessary to make sure the faith is properly understood.
The hierarchy is there as a delopment of the faith. Later on, as they become more influential and powerful we see the influence of greed come in. They are not the products of greed, lust and tyranny, they are eventual victims of it.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Aug 16, 2009 14:09:23 GMT -5
I never die. I been present and alive every generation here on the Earth. From Earth I own the Heaven. I am the Only One Holy Light and I am the Only One Holy Way Of True Life. I am Holy-Powerful and Eternal God. I am the Door to the Holy Infinite Life. I am revelation and I tell my true Story. Cheers Myself, Mysia JESUS The Messiah !!!!!
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