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Post by telemaqueii on Aug 16, 2009 11:11:46 GMT -5
Albanians have been recognized to help and saved the jews but as Albanians we are very lucky. Why ? Jews had still no state at that time and one of the proposition for them was to build their state in...Albania ! First of all, King Zogu already put up the idea to welcome thousands and thousands of jew in Albania : need of scientific, historian, economist etc... it would have been a great disaster for us... Here is the article in French, have not find it in english yet www.gnet.tn/revue-de-presse-internationale/document-proposition-dinstaurer-un-etat-juif-en-albanie/id-menu-957.htmlLe journal israélien Haaretz a levé le voile pour la première fois sur un document révélant qu’en 1935, un journaliste britannique sioniste, du nom de Léo Toon, est parti en Albanie pour étudier l’éventualité d’instaurer un Etat juif sur son territoire. En 1945, il a préparé un rapport qu’il a soumis au Président de l’université hébraïque à al-Qods, Yahouda Maghinz. Le document a été toutefois rangé au musée central de l’histoire du peuple juif à la même université.
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Post by telemaqueii on Aug 16, 2009 11:13:24 GMT -5
in English : www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1095526.htmlIn 1935, British Zionist journalist Leo Elton traveled to Albania, apparently at his own initiative, to see if it would be possible to establish a Jewish national entity there. It seems the only surviving trace of his voyage is his report 10 years later to Hebrew University's first president, Judah Leib Magnes. The document rests in the Central Archive for the History of the Jewish People at the university's Givat Ram campus in Jerusalem.
Elton's journey was spurred on by the increasing persecution of German Jews two years into the Nazi regime and Britain's refusal to increase the quotas on Jewish immigration to Mandatory Palestine. Elton writes that he first read of the idea in British newspapers reporting that the Albanian government welcomed Jewish immigration.
So he traveled to the tiny country of a million inhabitants, which was completely cut off from industrialized Europe. A government minister told him that "in Albania religious intolerance is quite unknown .... The Albanian Muslims of today are no fanatics." The minister also emphasized that, in contrast to the rest of Europe, Albania had no history of anti-Semitism. "There is no reason whatsoever to expect that Jewish settlers would not live in complete harmony with the population's diverse elements," Elton wrote.
The Albanian option also had economic advantages. The land was extremely fertile, and if modern agricultural methods were used, it could easily supply the needs of five million people.
The oranges and lemons, Elton enthused, were the best in the world, and Jews' success in raising oranges in pre-state Israel could be replicated in Albania. Other suggestions included growing tobacco and raising silkworms, and building up the textile and olive-oil industries. The less positive side, according to Elton, was that the capital Tirana had no theaters or concert halls.
"I believe that if such men and women were pioneers of the right type, they would achieve not only material prosperity quickly, but also the respect and goodwill of the Albanians," Elton wrote to Magnes. He said that "in the course of a very few years, not hundreds but thousands of Jews in all walks of life might follow."
As a first stage Elton recommended establishing a Jewish national entity in Albania like the one in Mandatory Palestine, with the cooperation of two Zionist movements. Later Albania might even be turned into a Jewish national home.
It is not known what became of the idea, whether any official body discussed it, and whether Magnes even bothered to answer Elton. The Jews, in any case, did not immigrate in large numbers to Albania. Hadassah Assouline, director of the archive, says the report was probably submitted to the university in 1945 amid the refugee problem at the end of World War II.
Interestingly enough, Elton's high estimation of the Albanians was borne out during the Holocaust: They saved the country's small Jewish community, down to its very last members.
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Post by telemaqueii on Aug 16, 2009 11:16:37 GMT -5
I would have been probably (if born) a big antisemit...this article make me already a bit sick, They prospected some possibilities of countries as if it was normal to decide on which land to settle.
The guy talks about albania as if it was his country...thief !
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Post by Kanaris on Aug 16, 2009 12:14:35 GMT -5
Who the f**k are you?Really... You would have been Europes' Palestinians... and Greece would have been Syria.... we both would have suffered.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Aug 16, 2009 12:16:48 GMT -5
Albanians not save jews but just because albanians are generous and besnik (Besa) jewish people long time have chosen Albania to live safe and secure. Jews saved themselves they are smart on their choices. Be careful germans gonna hate you when you saying albanians saved jewish. Cheers Myself, Misia JESUS The Messiah !!!!!
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Post by telemaqueii on Aug 16, 2009 12:31:25 GMT -5
Who the f**k are you?Really... You you have been Europes' Palestinians... and Greece would have been Syria.... we both would have suffered. the difference if this thing was made real is that Kosova, Part of Montenegro, Illirida and Cameria would be united under a jewish state and in expansion with their colony. Greece wouldn't be Syria. Now they are between arabs states, all against one... Into the Balkans they would have been between different little ethnic states which is more easy. They use their way of pressure and alliance...and it is done... Another big alternative for them was to establish Israël in Argentina !
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Post by todhrimencuri on Aug 16, 2009 12:36:18 GMT -5
Wtf? A few Jews settled in Albania's urban sphere would have been a miracle for the country. Those Jews were highly productive and educated men and women in need of a home. Albania was not going to have been an Israel and most likely those Jews would have left following the establishment of Israel anyway (in 1935 Israel was in process of being created).
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