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Post by Rhezus on Mar 7, 2008 11:38:02 GMT -5
Oh, am I..?! I don't read history books written by bulgar-fixed "historians".. But I see, you've been reading only them, right. ;D
Concerning slavic ppl.. I see them as part of our ppl (which came and settlehere before the raids of steppe-bulgars. At times when Thrace still had its own name).
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Post by pagane on Mar 7, 2008 11:48:05 GMT -5
Considering that the raids of the Bulgars started with Atilla and his son Irnik settled in todays Northern Bulgaria with part of the Bulgar tribes, are you trying to say that Slavs came here before Bulgars? Also, what sort of thinking is this: Slavs are part of the Bulgarian nation but Bulgars are not?! I don't get it.
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Post by Rhezus on Mar 7, 2008 12:01:30 GMT -5
Of course, they were around here before the stepp bulgars. Pannonia, Dalmatia etc. was slavic before the arrival of huns. That's why ethnicaly Hungary is mostly slavic, neo-danubians (and only 20 % hunic). And slavs arrived to the Balkans earlier than the turkic ppl.
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Post by pagane on Mar 7, 2008 12:13:19 GMT -5
Sourse please.
You probably know that the name of Hungary has nothing to do with Huns. You may as well check how the Hungarians call their country.
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Post by Rhezus on Mar 7, 2008 12:21:31 GMT -5
I can tell you for sure that the name Hungary is derived from Huns. In Hunnic language it's said Magyarorszag.
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Post by pagane on Mar 7, 2008 12:28:41 GMT -5
You are joking, right? It comes from onogur, meaning ten arrows.
This is biggest nonsense of the day. I am not commenting on it. Hopefully you will realize what rubbish you have posted. Just a hint - check first for Hunnic language.
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Post by Rhezus on Mar 7, 2008 14:38:19 GMT -5
I will not consider your nonsence here.. ten or twenty arrows is not the name of Hungary. It definately comes from the Hunnic origin of Attila's settlers. As said in their own language they don't call themselves 10 arrows, but Magyar = Huns. Your bulgar fix idea is sick..
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Post by pagane on Mar 8, 2008 7:48:22 GMT -5
The Onogurs: A Hunish nation which allied and joined with the Magyars and came with them. Their name is the source of the name"Hungary". Onogur>Ungar>Hungar. They came by way of the Caucaus Mtns along with the so called Sabirs of the Caucasus, who are the source of the Magyar name since they had a Madar/ Makar/ Mazar neighboor for milleniums. users.cwnet.com/millenia/history.htm
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Post by Rhezus on Mar 8, 2008 8:34:11 GMT -5
Typical Bulgarian pseudo-"historians" way of converting and making things sound the way they wanted.. That's too funny.. Balhar-Bolgar-Boza(r)..
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Post by pagane on Mar 8, 2008 10:58:27 GMT -5
What is funny is that you didn't even check the origin of the source and speak by heart. Actually, this is pathetic. Accept your defeat as a man and stop talking just because you feel obligated to say something. More precisely, do not discuss matters you are not familiar with at all. Thx
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Post by Rhezus on Mar 10, 2008 6:11:26 GMT -5
I've cheked the source... The pics on that web page (the link) are copied from a Bulgarian history book (from the communist 70's). The following is also written there: The Onogurs: A Hunish nation which allied and joined with the Magyars and came with them. A hunish tribe joining another Hunnish tribe - so what... (they still weren't a nation, one should had a country/state first)?! It would be the same, saying something like "Bessi allied and joined the Thracians"... Shall consider myself defeated, just because you've copied a nonsence from a Bulgarian pseudo-historian?! That was really something, haha..
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Post by pagane on Mar 10, 2008 11:23:28 GMT -5
Rhezus, check again. In communist Bulgaria it was forbidden to mention any relations between Bulgars and Huns. Not that I expect you to know that but still... And unlike Bulgars, Thracians were in constant fight against each other. This is the reason for your dream never come true and your country to be called Bulgaria, not Thracia. Not my fault, not yours either. But try to live with that.
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Post by Rhezus on Mar 10, 2008 18:36:08 GMT -5
In constant fight.. in your dreams. It was not forbidden. That fact was already known.. Enough with twisted theories.
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Post by pagane on Mar 11, 2008 13:27:15 GMT -5
You know nothing about Bulgars. You don't know much about Thracians either. The two or three cases when a strong Thracian state was established (for a very short period at that) it was because some tribe conquered several others and that's it. Nothing permanent. Is this your idea of a state?
It was. Don't show your ignorance so often.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Mar 12, 2008 6:58:34 GMT -5
"therefore today we have something like 8% turk blood in the average “serb”.
Are you sure about this?
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Post by bb681 on Mar 13, 2008 13:29:23 GMT -5
So...at the end...are the Gorani related to us?
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Post by terroreign on Mar 13, 2008 15:12:33 GMT -5
Yeni why do you get so sensitive about the amount of turk blood in your veins
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Post by Novi Pazar on Mar 13, 2008 20:22:25 GMT -5
^ to be honest terro, l don't give a damn but l think its not honest when you just pluck numbers out of thin air because you have a bias toward one ethnic group......l'm looking at you terro!.
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Post by terroreign on Mar 14, 2008 18:08:28 GMT -5
^^Whatever you say turko
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Post by srbobran on Mar 14, 2008 19:11:25 GMT -5
Provide or source, Terro.
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