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Post by oszkarthehun on Mar 3, 2008 7:10:05 GMT -5
Any nations who went about empire building were some type of Imperilalists and were all involved in conquering territory. The styles were different but in this respect Ottoman Empire wasnt completly so different to what other Western Imperialist nations were doing.
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Post by hellboy87 on Mar 3, 2008 9:48:44 GMT -5
what the fuck Bambi!
A Karachay is different than a kazakh! If a Kazakh subjugates the Karachay for 500 years,there's a possibility the karachay will be a Karachay+Kazakh hybrid or Kazakh.Thats what I meant.
Now,OE was NOT part of the islamic Golden Age ok? Yes,I know there were some great achievements by the Ottomans,but they were not considered part of the Islamic Golden Age.
Maybe part 2 of it,but was not considered part of Islamic Golden Age
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Post by depletedreasons on Mar 4, 2008 3:43:06 GMT -5
what the f**k Bambi! A Karachay is different than a kazakh! If a Kazakh subjugates the Karachay for 500 years,there's a possibility the karachay will be a Karachay+Kazakh hybrid or Kazakh.Thats what I meant. Now,OE was NOT part of the islamic Golden Age ok? Yes,I know there were some great achievements by the Ottomans,but they were not considered part of the Islamic Golden Age. Maybe part 2 of it,but was not considered part of Islamic Golden Age Karachay-Balkar identity appeared long after the Khazars. After all, Karachay-Balkars are mainly the descendants of the Cumans and the Volga Bolgars and a bit of Alans. Many historians believe that the Islamic Golden Age lasted until the rise of colonization. I agree on that. Perhaps you do not agree since your perceptions are mainly based upon views shaped by your Dutch or British overlords.
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