turks

[tsompanos]

;D

[peccafly]

wow the girls are pretty

is this from EAST TURKISTAN REPUBLIC which is so-called Xinjiang today?
fuccccc chinese communist government & FREE EAST TURKISTAN !

[tsompanos]

i dont know any turkish but just listening to it it sounds very similar to turkish plus they seem to use the old turkish alphabet to if you look at the bottom

[peccafly]

nah, they seems turkic but not turkish @ all.

btw, chinese communist must stop thier slow genocide currently going on in the east turkistan (so-called xingjiang).
such pretty turkic girls are forced to be sterilized, forced to move to chinese coastal regions, & a lot of chinese people are moving to xingjiang, causing big change of ethnical composition & decline of their ethnic tradition & their existance itself in east turkistan ...
chinese commuinist government is so evil there.

[lvl100]

Wow this ethnic stuff is so complicated sometimes.

I`m no Turkish , but the language sounds indeed very Turkish. While the people themselves looks like Chinese.

Anyone can post a link to shed some light about them ?

[peccafly]

i dont speak any turkic languages nor know anything abou them.

but i guess they are uygur turks living in EAST TURKISTAN REPUBLIC currently under occupation of chinese communists & so-called xingjiang.
because their language sounds like a kind of turkic & their faces look like mongols, &
there r arabic letters. uygur turks in EAST TURKISTAN REPUBLIC uses modified arabic / chinese characters while turks in the former-soviet countries uses latin / cyrilic.

uygur turks living in EAST TURKISTAN REPUBLIC currently under occupation of chinese communists & so-called xingjiang.





FREE EAST TURKISTAN REPUBLIC !!!

[peccafly]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_language
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_Uyghur_Autonomous_Region - pseudo "autonomous region" so-called xinjiang claimed by chinese communist regime
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_East_Turkestan_Republic - real entity there


east turkistan republic national flag


uygur citizen & chinese communist army


uygur music cd

[iskander]

www.kosovahaber.net/haber/haberdetay.asp?bolum=6614&uyeid=2
Aþaðýlamaktan Sonra Kucaklaþma



Tarih : 19.01.2009 16:49:51


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Dünkü(16.01.2009) Koha Ditore gazetesinde Enver Robelli köþe yazýsýnda Kosova’da uzun zamandan bu yana yansýtýlan Türk Ýnsaný’na karþý kötü imaj belirtilerini eleþtiriliyor, Kosova siyasileri arasýnda Türkiye'ye karþý tutumda deðiþiklik var deniliyor

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Yazýda, okul ve üniversitelerde sözde elit tabaka ve Kosova siyasetçilerinin Türkiye’ye karþý sistematik bir tutum takýndýðýný vurgulanýyor.


Priþtine medyasýnda eskiden Türk halkýna karþý kötüleme yazýlarý yayýnlandýðýný vurgulayan yazar son dönemlerde yapýlan karþýlýklý ziyaretlerden sonra Kosova siyasetçilerinin Türkiye hakkýndaki yazýlarýnda Türkiye’yi övmekte yarýþtýklarýný ve Türkiye’yi Kosova Cumhuriyeti’nin en büyük destekçisi olarak göstermeye baþladýklarýný belirtti.



Enver Robelli yazýsýnda 1993 yýlýndan bu yana Turgut Özal’ýn uluslar arasý platformlarda eski Yugoslavya’yla ilgili giriþimlerini olumlu olarak nitelerken, Kosova siyasetçilerinin o dönemlerde de batýya yöneldiðini, Asya, Afrika, Arap ülkeleri ve Doðu Dünyasý ile mesafeli kaldýðýný belirtiyor. Yazar 90’lý yýllarda “Zeri” gazetesinde Turgut Özal hakkýnda kaleme alýnmayacak yazýlarýn yayýnlandýðýna dikkat çekerken, o dönemde Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Belgrat Büyükelçiliðinin buna sert bir tepki gösterdiðini ve yazarýn gazeteden kovulmasý ile olayýn sonuçlandýðý hatýrlatýyor. Bu uç örneðin yaný sýra on yýllarca bir zaman okullarda, üniversitelerde sözde elit geçinen tabaka ve Kosova siyasetçilerinin Türkiye’ye karþý sistematik bir karþý tutum takýnýldýðý dile getiriliyor.



Osmanlý Cumhuriyeti ile Türkiye Cumhuriyeti’nin kurucusu Mustafa Kemal Atatürk’ü ayný kefeye koyarak Arnavutlarýn olumsuz ulusal konumundan dolayý Türkiye’yi suçladýklarý vurgulanýyor.



Osmanlý Cumhuriyeti’nin tüm Balkanlarý geri býraktýðý gibi Arnavutlarý da geri býrakýp dinlerinin zorla deðiþtirildiði olgusu çok sayýda metinde yer aldýðýnýaçýklayan yazar ciddi tarihçilerin deðerlendirmelerinde bu gibi bir durumun söz konusu olmadýðý dile getiriliyor.



Balkan halklarýnýn Osmanlý Ýmparatorluðu’na en iyi þekilde entegre olduðunu belirten yazar Arnavutlarýn hiçbir zaman ayrýlma gibi bir fikri savunmadýklarýný, hatta romantik Arnavut tarihçilerinin Batý dünyasýný “Avrupa cadýlarý” gibi kötüleyici sözlerle, hatta küfürlerle itham ettiðini ve Prizren Birliði’nde Osmanlý’dan ayrýlmak deðil, Osmanlý otoritesini kabul ederek özerk bir bölge isteminde bulunulduðu dile getiriliyor.



Kosova’nýn baðýmsýzlýðý ilaný öncesinde Kosovalý yetkililerin 100 ülke tarafýndan baðýmsýzlýðýn kabul edilmesi beklenirken bu günlerde yapýlan açýklamalarda geri adým atýlarak yýl sonuna kadar ancak 70 ülkenin tanýmasý beklendiði vurgulandý. Yazar Kosova kamuoyunun artýk sadece batý ve mikroskopik ülkelerinin tanýmasýnýn yeterli olmadýðýný gördüðünü ve doðu ülkelerinin Kosova’yý tanýmasýný beklediklerini dile getirirken, bu konuda Türkiye Cumhuriyeti’nin öneminin farkýna varýldýðýný belirtiyor.



Ali Babacan’ýn ziyaretine de deðinen yazar Ali Babacan’ýn da diðer dýþiþleri bakanlarý gibi devlet protokolü ile karþýlandýðýný, diðerleri gibi meclise hitap ettiðini belirtiyor ve ekliyor “Ancak Babacan’ýn ziyaretinde farklý olan þey þudur. Diðer dýþiþleri bakanlarý Kosovalý yetkililere istikrar, güvenlik konusunda devamlý nasihatlerde bulunurken, babacan onlarca iþadamý ile beraber geldi, ekonomik iþbirliði için anlaþmalar imzaladý, izole edilmiþ bir durumda bulunan Kosova vatandaþlarýna vizeyi kaldýrdýðýný duyurdu ve Kosova’yý Arap dünyasýndan birkaç devletin tanýyacaðýný, ayrýca Türkiye’nin bu konuda lobi faaliyetlerini yürütmeye devam edeceðini vurguladý”.



Yazar yazýsýnýn devamýnda Türkiye’nin Kosova’yý tanýyan ilk ülkelerden biri olmasýna raðmen Kosova’nýn Türkiye ile iliþkilere önem vermediðini aktarýyor. Kosova’nýn Türkiye’de diplomatik temsilcilik açmasýnda geciktiðini söyleyen yazar buna raðmen Türkiye’nin vizeleri kaldýrmasýnýn bir iyi niyet jesti olduðunu vurguluyor.



Türkiye ile diplomatik iliþki kurmakta mesafeli duran Kosovalý siyasetçiler þimdi Türkiye hakkýnda kimin daha çok övgülü sözler söyleyeceði konusunda yarýþtýklarýný aktarýyor.



Yazar Türkiye deðerlendirmesinde Türkiye’nin bazý uç gruplarýn bulunmasýna raðmen Türkiye’nin demokratik yollarla AB üyeliðine doðru yöneldiðini vurguluyor. Yazar ayrýca kültürel baþarýlara dikkat çekerken 2006 yýlýnda Orhan Pamuk’un Nobel Edebiyat Ödülüne layýk görüldüðünü ve Cumhurbaþkaný Abdullah Gül’ün Frankfurt kitap fuarýna gidip Orhan Pamuk’u kutladýðýný belirtiyor ve bunu demokratik bir adým olarak niteliyor.



Robelli yazýsýný “Bu geliþmelerde Kosova bir þey öðrenmeli mi ? Baþlangýç için belki þunu öðrenmelidir. Türkiye 72 milyonluk bir nüfusa sahiptir ve bölgenin en güçlü devletlerinden biridir” diyerek bitiriyor.

[meltdown711]

I can see some of the central asian appearence in almost all the Turks I have come across. Particularly the high cheeks... which I think makes many of the girls very very exotic looking.

[peccafly]

another pretty uyghur turkic girls with nice music.


i really feel sad when i think of the brutalities commuted by chinese communists in the east turkestan region which is occupied & dominated by chinese communists.....

[thracian08]

Some facts about Uygur Turks:

Introduction



The Uygurs are the native people of East Turkestan, also known as Shinkiang or Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region. The latest Chinese census gives the present population of the Uyghurs estimate according to Chinese official statment 8,345,622 million. But the Uyghurs estimate themselves more than twenty millions. There are also 500,000 Uygurs in West Turkestan mostly known as Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan . Almost 75,000 Uygurs have their homes in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Europe and the United States.

The Chinese sources indicate that the Uygurs are the direct descendants of the Huns.

The name "Uyghur" is mentioned in the chronicles of the Han Dynasty (206 B.C. - 220 A.D.), Wei Dynasty (265-289 A.D.), Tang Dynasty (618-906 A.D.), and Sung Dynasty (906-960).

Ancient Greek, Iranian, and Chinese sources placed Uygurs with their tribes, and sub-tribes in the vast area between the west banks of the Yellow River in the east, Eastern Turkestan in the west, and in the Mongolian steppe in the northeast as early as 300 B.C..



Early History



After 210 B.C., the Uygurs played important roles in the Hun (220 B.C. - 386 A.D.), Tabgach (Toba) (386-554 A.D.), and Kok Turk (552-744 A.D.) empires which were established in Central Asia.

Uyghurs are a people with a long and amazing history that stretches back more than 4,000 years, which started with the arrival of representatives of the proto-European race, a people very similar to the ancient peoples of Russia and Northern Europe. Somewhat later, typical representatives of at least two branches of the gracile and darker complexioned Mediterranean sub branch of the greater European race appeared in the South and West, and in the eastern regions very unique representatives of a "proto-Tibetan" race mixed with the proto-Europeans. Note that this dolichocephalous race with a narrow face, very high orbits and very pronounced cheekbones had racially and culturally nothing to do with the Chinese of past and present.

In the Iron Age - or possibly much earlier - the ancient Hu-Chieh, who also are known as Kao-ch'e, settled to the North of the peoples of East Turkistan. Ancient Chinese sources say the Hu-Chieh were from a Dinlin origin. To the North of Hu-Chieh settled the Dinlin (T'ieh-lê) Turks, whom Oshanin called the "legendary blond race of Central Asia". Further north settled another race of "red haired and green eyed Barbarians" known as the ancient Hja-g'ja-sz (Chien-Kun) Turks, designated by our scholars as "Yennisey Kirkiz". The Hja-g’ja-sz became the most important enemy of the Hu-Chieh/Kao-ch'e in the days Hu-Chieh ruled over all of Mongolia.

This Hu-Chieh/Kao-ch'e we designate as "historical Uyghurs" were originally a Southern Altaic people, who may have had originated in the vast region from Hovd to Semipalatinsk. This means that they originated from a region that included large parts of Djungaria, which was, is and (hopefully) forever will be part of East Turkistan.

Iron ties always connected the peoples of the northern Oasis cities and the Altaics. Therefore the Hsiung-Nu Batur Tangriqut also attacked Hu-Chieh when conquering the Yueh-chi. It is written that the Hu-chieh/Uyghur of the 175 B.C. had been "under the control of the Yueh-chi up to that time" (History of Early Civilizations of Central Asia. Vol. 2, p.175). Somewhat later the Hsiung-Nu Chih-chih attacked the ancient Turpanliks before he finally did what was the original reason of his mission: attacking the Hu-chieh/Uyghur to the North of the ancient Turpanliks

These ancient ties makes clear why the conquest of the Turpan region by the "historical Uyghurs" was so peaceful: "Literature kept alive its former intellectual activity," the "Buddhist and Nestorian" character of the "old Tocharian country" (Grousset) was left untouched, and agriculture, which still is the main profession of the Turpanliks, was improved.

The "historical Uyghurs" neither killed the "Tocharians" nor drove them out of East Turkistan. The result of the historical Uyghur "conquest" was that the people of the Northern Oasis cities and the "historical Uyghurs" melted together to become one part of the modern Uyghur Nation.



In 670, 688, 692 A.D., the Uygurs, the Kok Turk and the Shato joined the Tibetan Armies in their military expeditions in capturing the Chinese invasion strongholds in north and northeast Central Asia.

After the fall of the Kok-Turk Empire in Central Asia, the Uygurs established their first true state in 744, with the city of Karabalgasun, on the banks of the Orkhun River, as its capital.

The founder of this Uygur state was Kutluk Bilge Kul Khagan (King or Ruler). In 747, he was succeeded by his son Moyunchur, apowerful leader who subdued other Turkic clans, consolidated the monarchy, and extended his rule in the north to Lake Baikal, in the east to Gansu and in the southwest to India.

It so happened that just as the Uygurs became united and strong, the Chinese Tang Dynasty under Hsuan-tsung (Xuanzong)(712-756 A.D.) was undergoing a sharp decline. In 751, a Chinese army was disastrously defeated at the battle of Talas River by the Arabs, Tibetans, and the Uygurs. In the same year, a Chinese invasion of the Nan-chao (Nanzhao) to the southeast was thwarted with appalling losses to the Chinese; and a Chinese force under An Lu Shan was defeated by the Khitan (Qidan) in the northeast. These disasters were but the prelude to a much more fearful catastrophe - the rebellion of the former trusted minister An Lu Shan which broke out in 755 A.D.

It was under these circumstances that the Uygurs were invited by Su-tsung (Suzong), the Hsuan-tsung's (Xuanzong) successor, to send armies to help the Chinese. In this event, the Uygur forces played a key role in the recapture of both Chang-An (Chang'an) and Lo-yang (Luoyang) in 757. The Uygurs did not hesitate to exploit the Tang Dynastic debt owed them, by acts of appalling pillage. The Chinese emperor agreed to pay 20,000 rolls of silk as a tribute annually to the Uygurs and granted the Uygur Khagan one of his daughters in marriage. She was the first of three princesses of the Chinese imperial family to become a Uygur khatun (wife) in the period 744-840 A.D.

Moyunchur Khagan died in 759 and was succeeded by his son Bugu Khagan. During his reign, the Uygurs reached the apex of their power. They began with China, which engaged in forced trade of Uygur horses for Chinese silk - an exchange which was noted frequently in Chinese sources before 829.

In 762 Bugu Khagan sent to the Middle Kingdom where he helped the Tang Dynasty in the final battles against the rebellion which had racked it for so long.

In 779, Bugu Khagan was killed by his first cousin and chief minister Baga Tarkan. Bugu Khagan's Sogdian allies and advisors had wanted him to take advantage of the death in 779 of Emperor Tai-tsung (Taizong) and the state mourning involved in it, to undertake an invasion of China. Bugu Khagan agreed to do this. His first cousin Baga Tarkan opposed the plan; and when he saw the tide turning against him, murdered Bugu Khagan and set himself on the throne. Baga Tarkan, believed at this stage China could have been conquered by the Uygurs. But he did not believe that Uygurs would be able to preserve their cultural identity if they once conquered China, a vast and populous country even then.

After the death of Baga Tarkan in 789 and specially after that of his successor, Kulug Bilge Khagan in 790, Uygur power and prestige declined.

In 795, the rule of the Uygur state passed to another clan. Under this new clan the Uygurs became more and more steeped in religion, which softened them and planted seeds of advancedculture which characterized the Uygurs of later ages.

The most important ruler of this clan was Kutluk Bilge Khagan, whose successful military exploits, both before and during his reign, are reported in the Karabalgasun inscriptions. He did not succeed , however, in restoring the Uygur empire to its former power.

With Kutluk Bilge Khagan's death in 805, the forces of disintegration of the Uygur state gathered momentum. War broke out abroad with the powerful Kyrgyz neighbors to the north; while at home, court intrigue eroded the power of the royal family; rebellions broke out, and, to add to everything, a bad season and severe winter in 839 killed much of the livestock upon which the Uygur economy was so dependent. In 840, the Kyrgyz, invited by a rebel chief, attacked the tottering state, killed the Khagan, and took the capital.

This first part of Uygur political history shows the Uygurs as the protectors of the Chinese empire for almost a century. On the other hand, the relationship was not really a friendly one. There was abiding resentment on the Chinese side. The reason was that the Middle Kingdom was obliged to be protected by a "barbarian" people. The Uygurs, for their part, never gave the Chinese the respect which the latter would have liked.

After the fall of the first Uygur empire, a group of Uygurs emigrated to the west banks of the Yellow River in Kansu (Gansu); a second group emigrated via Yetti Su to the Southern part of Khan Tengri or Tianshan in Eastern Turkestan; the third and the largest group emigrated to the northern part of Khan Tengri where their ancestors are still living.

[thracian08]

More on Uygur History:

Uyghur Civilization



At the end of the 19th and the first few decades of the 20th century, scientific and archaeological expeditions to the region along the Silk Road in East Turkestan led to the discovery of numerous Uyghur cave temples, monastery ruins, wall paintings, statues, frescoes, valuable manuscripts, documents and books. Members of the expedition from Great Britain, Sweden, Russia, Germany, France, Japan, and the United States were amazed by thetreasure they found there, and soon detailed reports captured the attention on an interested public around the world. The relics of these rich Uyghur cultural remnants brought back by Sven Hedin of Sweden, Aurel Stein of Great Britain, Gruen Wedel and Albert von Lecoq from Germany, Paul Pelliot of France, Langdon Warner of the United States, and Count Ottani from Japan can be seen in the Museums of Berlin, London, Paris, Tokyo, Leningrad and even in the Museum of Central Asian Antiquities in New Delhi. The manuscripts, documents and the books discovered in Eastern Turkestan proved that the Uyghurs had a very high degree of civilization.



Uyghur Script



Throughout the centuries, the Uyghurs used three kinds of scripts. When they were confederated with the Kok Turks in the 6th and 7th centuries, they used the Orkhun script, which was actually a Kok Turk invention. Later, the Uyghurs dropped this script and adopted their own script which became known as the Uyghur script. This script was used for almost 800 years not only by the Uyghurs, but also by other Turkic peoples, the Mongols, and by the Manchus in the early stage of their rule in China. As the Mongols did not have their own written language, the Uyghur script was adopted by Chengiz(Genghis) Khan's Empire, for all sorts of correspondence. Guyuk Khan's (1246-1248) letter to the Pope of that time was written in Uyghur script. The Uyghurs were also instrumental in shaping Mongol administration, which was formidable by any standards. They manned Mongol chanceries and, probably because of their knowledge of languages, were often charged with visiting foreigners. Both Plano Carpini and Rubruck mention them. The Uyghurs also emerged as teachers of the royal family, governors in China, ambassadors in Rome, today's Istanbul, and Bagdat, scholars in Tebriz and officers in the army. After embracing Islam, the Uyghurs adopted the Arabic script, but common usage of the Arabic script came only in the 11th century.



Uyghur Literature



The first Uyghur literary works were mostly translations of Buddhist and Manicheist religious books. Besides, during the expeditions some narrative, poetic, and epic works were also discovered. Some of these books have been translated into German, English, Russian, and Turkish. After embracing Islam, Uygurs continued to preserve their culture dominance in Central Asia.

In this period hundreds of Uyghur scholars, well known to the world, emerged. Hundreds of valuable books were written. One hundred and thirty of these important works were discovered later. Among these works Uygur scholar Yusuf Has Hajip's book Kutatku Bilik , Mahmud Kashgari's Divani Lugatit Turk , Ahmet Yukneki's Atabetul Hakayik , are very famous.

Yusuf Has Hajip's Kutatku Bilik , was written in 1069-1070. It is a unique example of a work that explains social, cultural, and political lives of the Uygurs during this period. Mahmud Kashgari's Divani Lugatit Turk , which was also written in this age, bears knowledge as to the dialects of various Turkic people living at that time. It also gives information about the dialectical differences, their social upbringings, their customs,as well as the regions they inhabited. the author of this encyclopedic dictionary wandered amidst all of the Turkic peoples before he compiled his work, studied all the data and thus provided a sound academic basis. Divani Lugatit Turk , is one of the main source for Turkic Studies today.



Religion



Prior to Islam, like most of the Turkic peoples in Central Asia, the Uyghurs believed in religions like Shamanism, Manicheism and Buddhism. Buddhism entered East Turkestan at the beginning of our era. It quickly spread among Turkic peoples, but it was the Uyghurs who founded Buddhism in Central Asia. The ruins of the famous monasteries known as Ming Oy or Thousand Buddhas built by the Uyghurs can still be seen in the cities of Kucha, Turfan(Turpan), and Tunhuang(Dunhuang), where Kanchou (Ganzhou) Uyghurs or the Yellow Uyghurs still live.

The Uyghur king Kul Bilge Khagan (678-712) ordered a Budddist monastery to be built in the city of Bay in East Turkestan. In the city of Kucha, there were more than 50 Buddhist temples, libraries and welfare programs for the support of the poor. In the city of Hoten, there were 14 large monasteries without counting the smaller ones.

When Uyghur king Bugu Khagan traveled to China in 762, he met some Manicheist priests. They succeeded in converting him to their religion and four of these priests returned with him to Karabalgasun. Shortly after, Bugu Khagan imposed Manicheism as the state religion. This was a political step rather than a religious one. He hoped that by adopting this characteristically Sogdian religion to direct the future of his people away from the cultural influence of the Chinese who were also Buddhists.

The Uyghurs embraced Islam in 934, during the reign of Satuk Bughra Khan. He was the first Turkic ruler who embraced Islam in Central Asia. At this time, instead of temples, mosques were built. Almost 300 mosques were built only in the city of Kashgar. Among them, most famous are the Azna Mosque, built in the 12th century, Idgah (Id Kah) Mosque built in the 15h century, and Appak Khoja Mosque, built in the 18th century. In the city of Kashgar alone there were 18 big Madrasas (mosque schools), and up to two-thousand students enrolled in these schools in any given year. these schools were one of the important facilities not only for teaching the Uygur children reading, writing, and subjects Islamic in nature, but also such familiar subjects as mantik (logic), arithmatik (arithmetic), hendese (geometry), hai'a (ethics), astronomiye (astronomy), tibb (medicine), and falaha (agriculture). The Mesudi Library built in the 15th century, had a collection of almost 200,000 books.



Uyghur Economy



The Uyghurs adopted a sedentary life style earlier that the other Turkic peoples. Thus, the Uyghurs knew how to cultivate land as early as 2nd century A.D. The Uyghurs were engaged in a much more advanced agriculture by the 7th century. They raised wheat, maize, corn millet, potatoes, sesame, sugarbeet, peanuts,peaches, grapes, melons and cotton. The fields were irrigated with water brought from far distances by the "kariz" (water canals) built by the Uyghurs. These "kariz" are still in use today around the city of Turfan(Turpan) today.

Cotton was one of the principle local products of commercial value. Cotton and products manufactured from cotton contributed to the prosperity of the region.

Another product of commercial value was carpets. The cities of Hoten, Kashgar, and Turfan(Turpan) were carpet manufacturing centers.



Uyghur Medicine



The Uyghurs had an extensive knowledge of medicine and medical practice. Sung (Song) Dynasty (906-960) sources indicate that an Uyghur physician, Nanto, traveled to China, and brought with him many kinds of medicine not known to the Chinese.

There are 103 different herbs for use in Uyghur medicine recorded in a medical compendium completed by Li Shizen (1518-1593), a chinese medical authority. The Tartar scholar Rashit Rahmeti Arat has written two valuable books in German

entitled Zur Heilkunde der Uighuren (Medical Practices of the Uygurs) , in 1930 and 1932, relying on Uyghur documents discovered in East Turkestan. In his book, Arat gives important information on Uyghur medicine and medical treatment.

Among other documents he studied he found a very important sketch of a man with an explanation of acupuncture. Relying on this document, some western scholars claim that acupuncture was not a Chinese, but a Central Asian invention and the Uyghurs perfected the method.

Traditional Uyghur medicine, which can be traced back for more than 2,700 years through written records, is still very popular in East Turkestan today.



Architecture, Art, Music and Printing



In the fields such as architecture, art, music and printing the Uyghurs were also advanced.

Scholars, archaeologists and Chinese envoys who traveled through East Turkestan have often expressed their high estimation of the level of the Uyghur civilization.

For instance, Wang Yen(Yan) De, who served as Chinese ambassador to the Karakhoja Uyghur Kingdom between the years 981-984, wrote the following in his memoirs: "I was impressed with the extensive civilization I have found in the Uyghur Kingdom. The beauty of the temples, monasteries, wall paintings, statues, towers, gardens, housings and the palaces built throughout the kingdom cannot be described. The Uyghurs are very skilled in handicrafts made from gold and silver, vases and potteries. Some say that God has infused this talent into these people only."

Albert Gruenwedel:

"Turfan(Turpan) is without doubt a forgotten Asian city ofextraordinary interest. The size of it is remarkable: the inner, holy city, consisting only of temples and palace, measures 7,400 feet at the widest point of the still extant walls. Hundreds of terraced temples and grandiose vaulted edifices cover an extensive area of lane."

Fredinnad de Sassure:

"Those who preserved the language and written culture of Central Asia were the Uyghurs."

Albert von Lecoq:

"The Uyghur language and script contributed to the enrichment of civilizations of the other peoples in Central Asia. Compared to the Europeans of that time, the Uyghurs were far more advanced. Documents discovered in East Turkestan prove that an Uyghur farmer could write down a contract, using legal terminology. How many European farmers could have done that at that period ? This shows the extent of Uyghur civilization of that time."

Lazlo Rasonyi:

"The Uyghurs knew how to print books centuries before Guetenberg invented his press."

Wolfram Eberhard:

"In Middle Ages, the Chinese poetry, literature, theater, music and painting were greatly influenced by the Uyghurs."

Russian scholar Pantusov writes that the Uyghurs manufactured their own musical instruments; they had 62 different kinds of musical instruments and in every Uygur home there used to be an instrument called a "dutar".

This Uyghur power, prestige and civilization which dominated Central Asia for more than a thousand years went into a steep decline after the Manchu invasion of East Turkestan, and during the rule of the Nationalist and specially during the rule of the Communist Chinese.

[Kastorianos]

Back to your roots Turks! Free East Turkistan, free Asia Minor and Constantinople! Go terrorizzare the Chinese instead of us finally...

[thracian08]

in your dreams Kastor!

Yes, I'm proud our roots are in Central Asia.

No one terrorizes Greeks. Stop spreading so much hatred you racist backward Greek.

[Kastorianos]

...your nick is "thracian"...and Im the one dreaming....allright..

[monsterofsouli]

He is a Turkish Thracian, Mongolian, Euro Central Asia Uyghur whatever the F! Dont mess with him Kastor.

[chalkedon]

Guys....turks in turkey are not the turks from central asia. They are so diluted that by now, they resemble just like the balkan ppl.

I would bet that the ones from the ionian coast are mostly muslim greeks.

Turkish - means something like turks..

Turkics - are the real deal. The Uighurs are a perfect example

turks are a mix from the ottoman days.

[adlun]

Jul 13, 2009 16:57:30 GMT -5 Kastorianos said:

Back to your roots Turks! Free East Turkistan, free Asia Minor and Constantinople! Go terrorizzare the Chinese instead of us finally...

Istanbul (Not Constantinople)

[monsterofsouli]

Jul 14, 2009 8:53:45 GMT -5 @adlun said:

Jul 13, 2009 16:57:30 GMT -5 Kastorianos said:

Back to your roots Turks! Free East Turkistan, free Asia Minor and Constantinople! Go terrorizzare the Chinese instead of us finally...

Istanbul (Not Constantinople)

Hey barbarian. Thats just how we call our city that we built that you and your people now reside in. You must thank the Greeks for building you such a wonderful city. Just don't forget its our cultural gem and we do not have short memories. Thanks a bunch. All joking aside I kid around when I call you barbarian. I dont mean it.

[Vizier of Oz]

Jul 14, 2009 8:33:39 GMT -5 chalkedon said:

Guys....turks in turkey are not the turks from central asia. They are so diluted that by now, they resemble just like the balkan ppl.

I would bet that the ones from the ionian coast are mostly muslim greeks.

Turkish - means something like turks..

Turkics - are the real deal. The Uighurs are a perfect example

turks are a mix from the ottoman days.

Turks could be mixed, but I must stress that your assumption on the Turkic and Turkish people is quite Eurocentric.