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Post by todhrimencuri on Nov 1, 2009 23:15:11 GMT -5
its just a shepherds hat. Common among shepherds throughout time.
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Nov 1, 2009 23:52:57 GMT -5
I'm curious about the Albanian hat. Is it an Albanianized version of the fez? Or did it originate by itself,or nothing to do with the Ottomans? In Albanian its called Plis. The pileus (Latin, plural, pilei) — also pilleus or pilleum — was, in Ancient Greece (where it was the pilos or pilidion) and in Rome, a brimless, felt cap, somewhat similar to a fez. The pilleolus was a smaller cap, similar to a skullcap. The pileus was especially associated with the manumission of slaves who wore it upon their liberation. It became emblematic of liberty and freedom from bondage, especially in the 18th and 19th centuries when it appeared frequently on statuary and heraldic devices and was known as a "liberty cap" or Phrygian cap.  Greece The pilos (Greek πῖλος, felt) was a common conical travelling hat in Ancient Greece. The pilos is the brimless version of the petasos. It could be made of felt or leather. Their pilos cap identifies the Dioscuri, Castor and Pollux, in sculptures, bas-reliefs and vase-paintings; their caps were already explained in Antiquity as the remnants of the egg from which they hatched.[1] The pilos appears on votive figurines of boys at the sanctuary of the kabeiri at Thebes, the Kabeirion.[2] In warfare, the pilos was often worn by the peltast light infantry, in conjunction with the exomis. The pilos cap was sometimes worn under the helmet by hoplites, but usually they preferred to not use a helmet along with the cap before the 5th century for reasons of mobility. The pilos helmet was made in the same shape as the original cap. It probably originated from Lakonia and was made from bronze. The pilos helmet was extensively adopted by the Spartan army in the fifth century BC and worn by them until the end of the Classical era. [edit]Rome In Ancient Rome, a slave was freed by a master in a ceremony that included placing the pileus on the former slave’s shaved head. This was a form of extra-legal manumission (the manumissio minus justa) considered less legally sound than manumission in a court of law. One 19th century dictionary of classical antiquity states: Among the Romans the cap of felt was the emblem of liberty. When a slave obtained his freedom he had his head shaved, and wore instead of his hair an undyed pileus (πίλεον λευκόν, Diodorus Siculus Exc. Leg. 22 p. 625, ed. Wess.; Plaut. Amphit. I.1.306; Persius, V.82). Hence the phrase servos ad pileum vocare is a summons to liberty, by which slaves were frequently called upon to take up arms with a promise of liberty (Liv. XXIV.32). The figure of Liberty on some of the coins of Antoninus Pius, struck A.D. 145, holds this cap in the right hand.[3]  Odysseus wearing a pilos, an exomis and a chlamys.  Male bust with pileus and chlamys III century B.C.  Bill Clinton haha |
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 2, 2009 8:53:54 GMT -5
From a Bosniak site... Bosniaks...    Scary! Shocking! |
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Post by vanilo on Nov 3, 2009 6:52:19 GMT -5
Why?
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 3, 2009 7:24:13 GMT -5
Because the Turks more or less forced us Serbs & other Christian ethnicities to convert to Islam and have our women covered like this. I probably have a fairly conservative attitude towards what I find appealing in women’s appearance but this looks so unnatural, uncomfortable, unappealing and alien compared to their previous dress. |
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Post by vanilo on Nov 3, 2009 10:13:09 GMT -5
Thanks for explaning, Arsenije  . I wouldn't exactly call those costumes on the pictures traditional Bosniak costumes though...since, as you say, these sorts of clothes first came with the Ottomans. |
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Post by MiG on Nov 4, 2009 20:24:12 GMT -5
The female body is a work of art. Why conceal it, I'll never understand.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 4, 2009 20:28:17 GMT -5
MiG how about some Croasian dress you slacker.
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Post by MiG on Nov 4, 2009 21:56:14 GMT -5
Lijenost. Gora si neg bolest.  |
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 4, 2009 22:29:47 GMT -5
Lijenost. Gora si neg bolest. Haven't heard that one before. Good one. |
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Post by thracian08 on Nov 18, 2009 14:44:40 GMT -5
Turkish from different regions. Attachments:
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Post by thracian08 on Nov 18, 2009 14:45:27 GMT -5
Ataturk Attachments:
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Post by thracian08 on Nov 18, 2009 14:46:00 GMT -5
Folklor Attachments:
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Post by thracian08 on Nov 18, 2009 14:46:35 GMT -5
Yoruk Turk Attachments:
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Post by thracian08 on Nov 18, 2009 14:48:01 GMT -5
Ottoman Attachments:
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Post by thracian08 on Nov 18, 2009 15:10:23 GMT -5
Ottoman cont'd. Attachments:
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Post by thracian08 on Nov 18, 2009 15:14:42 GMT -5
Folklor Attachments:
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Post by chalkedon on Nov 18, 2009 15:16:12 GMT -5
do you have one with yourself dressed up in a costume  id like to see that ;D |
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Post by thracian08 on Nov 18, 2009 15:19:27 GMT -5
Eskisehir yoresi Attachments:
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Post by chalkedon on Nov 18, 2009 15:48:39 GMT -5
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. I wouldn't exactly call those costumes on the pictures traditional Bosniak costumes though...since, as you say, these sorts of clothes first came with the Ottomans. 
