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Post by bob1389 on Jul 11, 2009 1:26:01 GMT -5
They seem to have no understanding of the word at all. Turkey attacks China 'genocide'Turkey's prime minister has described ethnic violence in China's Xinjiang region as "a kind of genocide". "There is no other way of commenting on this event," Recep Tayyip Erdogan said. He spoke after a night-time curfew was reimposed in Xinjiang's capital, Urumqi, where Muslim Uighurs and Han Chinese clashed last Sunday. The death toll from the violence there has now risen from 156 to 184, China's state-run Xinhua news agency reports. More than 1,000 people were injured. Beijing has so far not publicly commented on Mr Erdogan's criticism. But it said that of the 184 people who died, 137 were Han Chinese.full article - news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8145451.stm
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 11, 2009 2:04:35 GMT -5
Perhaps Turks should concentrate more on the home front. Perpetual genocide and discrimination has been inflicted upon the native Greek, Armenian and Kurdish populations for quote some time now.
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Post by karabin on Jul 11, 2009 4:51:02 GMT -5
Turks crack me up but what makes me really LOL is Turk wannabees *cough* BiH *cough*
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Post by fazlinho on Jul 11, 2009 6:13:21 GMT -5
What cracks me up even more are people with Turkish blood who hate other Turks ROFL
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jul 11, 2009 7:34:39 GMT -5
What cracks me up even more are people with Turkish blood who hate other Turks ROFL Yea, unfortunately there are a lot of Serbian Turks in Bosnia and some parts in Serbia.
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Post by fazlinho on Jul 11, 2009 11:03:19 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_de_seigneurPravo prve bračne noći - dio srpske istorije i kulture Jus primae noctis ili droit du seigneur, je pravo prve bračne noći, zapravo pravo bega (ili rjeđe age) da provede jednu noć sa budućom ženom svoga kmeta (mladom i seksualno privlačnom) nakon čega bi je predao dalje kmetu, iako se ovo moglo izbjeći otkupom (plaćanjem izvjesne sume novaca). Zaplet u operi Le Nozze di Figaro (Figarova ženidba) od Wolfganga Amadeusa Mocarta, je zasnovan na pravu prve bračne noći. Figaro i Susanna se spremaju za vjenčanje ali grof Almaviva gospodar dvorca kraj Sevilje u Španiji želi da iskoristi svoje pravo i provede jednu noć sa Sussann prije Figara. To pravo je široko praktikovano u Evropi i posebno u zemljama Otomanske Imperije (provincije Otomanske Imperije su bile: Grčka, Bugarska, Srbija, Bosna) sve do kraja devetnaestog vijeka. To pravo je prestalo u Rusiji u XIX vijeku. U Americi je to pravo (nezvanično) postojalo sve do građanskog rata, u vezi sa robovlasništvom u južnim državama u Americi. Na slici, koju je naslikao Paja Jovanović, prikazana je mlada koja se priprema za prvu bračnu noć. Tu prvu noć će provesti kod bega. Begovi su obično bili Turci mada je bilo lokalnog plemstva koje je preslo na Islam da sačuvaju svoje privilegije za vrijeme vlasti Otomanske imperije nad Balkanom. * Pravo prve bračne noći je važilo za nevjeste kmetova, ili slugu. One su bile hrišćanke (vlahinje) jer muslimani nisu bili kmetovi. Na dan udaje hrišćanska (vlaška) mlada bi bila posjećena od strane jednog begovog (aginog) predstavnika obično u počasnoj pratnji jednog odjeljenja vojnika. Predstavnik bi zatim odveo mladu do begove (agine) kuće đe bi provela dan i noć a zatim bi je otpratio nazad njenoj kući u jutro na dan vjenčanja. Ono što je zanimljiv detalj na slici je da su sve žene na slici obučene u tradicionalnu orjentalnu odjeću turskog stila. Za vrijeme Otomanske vlasti stil oblačenja je bio pod uticajem islamske tradicije. Čak i danas se koriste nazivi tekstila nastali u islamskom svijetu kao na primjer damast po gradu Damasku. One nose dimije (koje lice na siroke hlače) od tankog često zlatno prošaranog tkanja koje ističu žensku figuru. U islamskim zemljama i muškarci i žene nastavljaju da slijede tradiciju, pokrivajući kosu u javnosti nekim pokrivalom za glavu: turbanom fesom velom. Žene na slici osim one na desoj strani imaju pokrivenu kosu šalom (zvanim i samija, marama) u skladu sa islamskim običajima. Jugoslavenska pošta je 1998 ovom običaju posvetila jednu poštansku marku iz serije "Narodni običaji" na kojoj je slika Paje Jovanovića. Getting fucked by Turks and even issuing a post mark about it under the title "people's traditions" isn't really part of our culture. I know it must hurt to spew on Turks every 2 seconds while having Turkish blood in yourself, but that's your unfortunate truth and history.
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Post by radovic on Jul 11, 2009 11:56:50 GMT -5
^ You really are an idiot.
One that right existed with regard to servants. Hence someone already present in the begs home <-- someone he could violate regardless. [The site you seem to have copied this word for word provides a direct english translation emphasizing servants]
Now, the picture by Paja is just of a pride and nothing to distinguish it as a begs servant or not.
But you know I don't expect propagandist from the Cafe Montenegro forum to know this <-- afterall the bulls**t claims Terroreign makes come from this and his claims have been refuted all the time.
Even if your claims hold water, it would have nothing to do with Turkish blood.
Afterall, in Serbia the Turks were barely 10% of the population <-- over 80% of those being local converts. Meaning less then 2% Turkish blood.
So next time learn historical facts. <-- Especially since technically it would fall under "European culture" since this was present in all of Europe, not just area ruled by Muslim rapists, since it was an aspect of Latin Law and was included in nearly all legal systems in Europe.
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Post by fazlinho on Jul 11, 2009 12:10:34 GMT -5
First I'm Albanian than I supposedly go to Cafe Montenegro (which is the very first link you find if you type on google "pravo prve noci") for my claims, which don't claim anything unimaginable. It's just a brief story of the ius primae noctis in Serbia which is a well historical fact. And at last I don't really get how can a non-Turk be a Turk. What it does prove is that if you compare Bosniak and Serbian blood, the latter has more "Turkish blood" which makes all your hypo with Turks a lot funny
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Post by radovic on Jul 11, 2009 12:15:42 GMT -5
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Post by alb12345 on Jul 11, 2009 12:23:39 GMT -5
what the difference a orthodox turk and a muslim turk we know very well who give girls to turks and who wore turks ex girlfreinds keep the religon coz without it you are asians from iran ;D
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Post by radovic on Jul 11, 2009 12:47:58 GMT -5
^ I'd rather be an Asian then Iran then a Turks paedophile lover <-- because without that fact you are nothing but a dirty chechen from Azerbaijan.
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Post by fazlinho on Jul 11, 2009 12:50:27 GMT -5
Lol I can't believe you think I'm an Albanian!!!
My "first I'm an Albanian" meant what an idiot I'm here since a year and he doesn't know I'm Bosniak.
Loll now we've passed on the Islam bashing bandwagon haha I can't believe you already are so out of arguments... maybe I overrated your abilities to prove your points.
But as it is let's discuss,what madhhab does suggest something like that?
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Post by radovic on Jul 11, 2009 12:59:07 GMT -5
Lol I can't believe you think I'm an Albanian!!! My "first I'm an Albanian" meant what an idiot I'm here since a year and he doesn't know I'm Bosniak. What an idot and a loser you are. Lying about your ethniticity. Because you couldn't respond to my statements. For all I know you could be someone like Terroreign <-- claims to be a Montenegrin, but can't speak his alledged language and has communicated far better with Shiqps in Albanian and has shown ability to speak gramatically correct "Macedonian." [Reveal by Emperor Aadmin about a year into these forums] Given that lies you were stating, it was relevant to the point. You claimed to be a shqip and I responded to you quite logically: If your going to make these absurd claims about my people I'll do the same about your people.
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Post by fazlinho on Jul 11, 2009 13:03:45 GMT -5
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LOL I can't believe you seriously didn't get it from what I wrote lol oh man you really must be a complete idiot hahaha
And I replied indeed, showed how SERBS themselves admit it, it's not like I have to add much. Whine to the Serbian Posts if you want.
Oh and, I started my claims after karabins comments on turk wannabees.
unbelievable but true! again it was a Serb who started a mess, even if be it on an internet forum!
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Post by radovic on Jul 11, 2009 13:09:25 GMT -5
.... LOL I can't believe you seriously didn't get it from what I wrote lol oh man you really must be a complete idiot hahaha And I replied indeed, showed how SERBS themselves admit it, it's not like I have to add much. Whine to the Serbian Posts if you want. Oh and, I started my claims after karabins comments on turk wannabees. unbelievable but true! again it was a Serb who started a mess, even if be it on an internet forum! I can't believe you lie about what you are then when somebody takes to task about it you resort to the argument, oh it was a joke. <-- You really have the mentality of a 5 year old. [And like I said, with regards do things a troll like Terroreign was doing, it was perfectly valid to believe your sudden chang ein ethniticity] Nowehre in your psot Serbs admit anything <-- too being Turks and so forth. All you posted is a lie and intentional one posted on Cafe Montenegro, you fialing to mention it as something pan-European in presence, the fact that it regarded servants [ you claimed the entire Serb populace ]. The karabin part is correct. Everything else from your mouth is pure bulls**t and you know it.
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Post by fazlinho on Jul 11, 2009 13:14:39 GMT -5
but it was no joke - indeed I did say it to show how stupid you are, as I believe that is true it can't be a joke. And you are proving it even more as there would have been no reason for me stating my albanianhood if that was what you always thought anyways from the first post.
Anyways, it was an usual illyria forum reply. Whenever I'll see idiots writing about Turk wannabees I'll post stuff like this again.
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Post by radovic on Jul 11, 2009 13:20:49 GMT -5
but it was no joke - indeed I did say it to show how stupid you are, as I believe that is true it can't be a joke. And you are proving it even more as there would have been no reason for me stating my albanianhood if that was what you always thought anyways from the first post. Never suspected you were an Albanian until your retarded post with the stamp and then you following my reply by saying your an Albanian. Honestly. You claimed you were an Albanian. Your post was Trollish. So I assumed you were an Albanian pretending to be a Bosniak for trolling <-- same with how Shiqptar Terroreign claims to be Montenegrin [despite his lack of basic grammer of "Montenegrin" but no lack in Albanian and "maceodnian." So by your logic I'm an idiot for inferring your an Albanian because you were following the typical behaviour of a troll of the Terroreign variety. <-- But yet idiocy doesn't follow logic and everything I did followed logic.
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Post by MiG on Jul 11, 2009 13:31:13 GMT -5
Dude, that picture is so fucking gross, I nearly gagged. :-\ Edit that shit out, and post it as a link. Fucking disgusting.
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Post by fazlinho on Jul 11, 2009 13:34:26 GMT -5
What cracks me up even more are people with Turkish blood who hate other Turks ROFL Lol. You really are a retard aren't you. Turkish inhabitation in Bosnia and Serbia minimal <-- and in Serbia most left post early 1800s. But it's already been demonstrated that Albanians do not know about history many times here. After all don't they have the least anmount of Illyrian blood n the western Balkans but yet claim that they are the direct descendants of Illyrians. ^ This before I posted anything about the ius primae noctis and made fun of you by showing your idiocy. You alluded I was an Albanian (if you try to deny that than to me the convo is already done, as anyone can see that post) before I made any comments about your idiocy. Logic would have been (assuming you didn't know I was Bosniak) thinking that after someone replies to a post directed against Bosniaks (unless you want to claim that wannabe Turks in BiH meant Albanians) is that he is a Bosniak. That to me is logic, maybe in Serb logic Albanians are a native people of BiH, I really don't know.
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Post by thracian08 on Jul 11, 2009 18:56:44 GMT -5
More power to President Erdogan. Actually, more Uygur Turks died, but the media portrays lies !
ATAA CONDEMNS VIOLENCE AGAINST TURKIC UIGHURS IN CHINA, MOURNS MORE THAN 150 KILLED, 1000 WOUNDED SINCE WEEKEND
BayBak, Azerbaijan | Wednesday, 8th July , 2009 , 00:56 [am] | Announcements
. The Assembly of Turkish American Associations (ATAA) condemns the hate crimes and killings that have occurred against Uighur Turks in the Xinjiang province of China. Since Sunday, ethnic Hans, armed with clubs lead pipes, shovels and meat cleavers, have killed over 150 and seriously wounded over 1000 Uighurs.
The Ottomans treated the their subjects well. They didn't kill them !
Too bad you Serbs are so brainwashed you have no idea.
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