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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 11, 2009 17:09:39 GMT -5
technicalities, just like it nowhere contitutes ethnic cleansing and mass murder of innocent civilians, severing an agreement does not justify what ensued
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Post by vinjak on Jun 11, 2009 17:13:29 GMT -5
Pfft technicalitys you say lololol its a constitution duh severing an agreement does not justify what ensuedSevering the agreement as you put it is treason and a declaration of War... now what happens in that war is governed by differnt documents Please if you are going to get in this debate how about using your brain and answering intelligently Thank you in advance.
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Post by fazlinho on Jun 12, 2009 6:27:07 GMT -5
I don't really see where is it written that all the people of the nation had to agree on it. Seriously, underlines me that.
What?? a republic has the right to independence but OTHERS have to agree on that, outside that republic that it can separate? I hope you are not asking me to believe that, it goes against logic before anything else
It's like you are equalizing a change of borders with an act of independence. An act of independence is an "obvious" change of borders, but that is a consequence, a normal "change of borders" has no links in this context, as Bosnia wasn't a part of Yuga anymore.
If you want to convince me that the procedure to "change the borders" is the same to "exit the union", sorry you can't, because it goes against any logic and law.
I don't really read that ever
To me, it's pretty clear. As we agree a republic can get independence, as we agree any relation is based on the interactions between the republics (that's what people don't get, the LEGAL relations inside of yuga weren't based on interactions between peoples, but between republics, and peoples actually interact with eachother trough the republics), "Radni ljudi, narodi i narodnosti odlučuju u federaciji na načelima sporazumevanja republika.
And every republic had it's institutions to make them heard. Legally, the Republic of BiH chose independence.
When Serbs say that they "had to agree", it's bs, it wasn't written anywhere, as much as many don't like it.
How are peoples rights protected? inside of the republics, that's why we never banned Cirilica (even if we could as non Serbs were a majority), why we chose a flag of BiH (a christian one too btw) not a muslim etc... but that obviously wasn't enough.
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Post by soko on Jun 12, 2009 6:47:06 GMT -5
It is meaningless to talk about the Constitution of the SFRJ when discussing the break up of the same state. If we are going to go with the constitution of that state, and the laws it had, then "everything" that was done was "illegal". Yes, Republic had to get agreement from the other Republics to separate, but it is not like the SFRJ was around in those days, it was also illegal for the army of the same state to hand out weapons to Serb nationalists in Croatia If the constitution of the SFRJ had been followed, Bosnia and Croatia would not have separated, but if the same constitution was followed, then most of the leadership in Belgrade, as well as the Serb politicians in Bosnia and Croatia would have been arrested and put on trail for conspiracy against the state, nationalism, economic crimes.. and God knows what else.. Kosovo was never a Republic, but having the whole of Kosovo part of Yugoslavia, when most of it was made up of Albanians was against common sense..
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Post by SKORIC on Jun 12, 2009 9:09:34 GMT -5
^ It wasnt 90% Albanian after WW2.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 12, 2009 9:29:13 GMT -5
Pfft technicalitys you say lololol its a constitution duh severing an agreement does not justify what ensuedSevering the agreement as you put it is treason and a declaration of War... now what happens in that war is governed by differnt documents Please if you are going to get in this debate how about using your brain and answering intelligently Thank you in advance. its a technicality within the context of what happened and what we know know you simpleton! here's your logic deduced from that you expressed in that retarted response, they pulled out of an agreement therefore unleash hell on innocent civilians. i was talking about mass murder, genocide and concentration camps mate, sure a military reponse was justified on a country which decided to break away, sieze control, neutralise the threat and bring back normality....not fire indiscriminately in the busy streets and markets of sarajevo from the hills sourrounding it, not knife 5000 innocent men in srbrenica in one f***ing afternoon mate.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 12, 2009 9:32:09 GMT -5
^ It wasnt 90% Albanian after WW2. nah it was smth like 98%
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Post by SKORIC on Jun 12, 2009 9:56:07 GMT -5
Nope
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 12, 2009 10:08:31 GMT -5
well i'm sold!
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Post by bob1389 on Jun 12, 2009 10:44:12 GMT -5
the only real solution here is the mass extermination of the albanian population
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Post by SKORIC on Jun 12, 2009 10:46:14 GMT -5
ohhh bawb thats ur solution for everthing
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Post by Novus Dis on Jun 12, 2009 18:55:49 GMT -5
"Ah, crap! I just dropped my coffee!" "That's it, time for the Shqiptars to die."
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 13, 2009 3:36:09 GMT -5
that's what i call a 'f*g on the edge'
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