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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Nov 26, 2009 19:16:58 GMT -5
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Nov 26, 2009 19:18:32 GMT -5
Some of the more interesting Chapters Chapter IIIThe Greek and the Roman Epochs of Balkan History (starts on page 26 and end on page 44) THE BYZANTINE EPOCH Chapter IVAge of Justinian (starts on page 45) Chapter VSlav and Mongolian Invasions (starts on page 59) Rescue of the Empire by Heraclitus (starts on page 63) Chapter VIThe Slavs (starts on the page 70) Chapter VIIThe Coming of the Arabs and rescue of the Empire by Leo the Isaurian (starts on page 79) Chapter VIIIComing of the Bulgars and creation of the Bulgar state and its greatness under Boris and Simeon(starts on page 92) Chapter IXByzantine Empire at its height under Basilian Dynasty(867-1056) (starts on page 105) Chapter XDecline of the Byzantine Empire and its overthrow by the Fourth Crusade(starts on page 124) Chapter XIThe Serb Empire of the Fourteen Century(starts on page 141) Appendix Mount Athos (starts on page 161) The Bogumil Heresy (starts on page 163) The Latin States on Hellenic Soil (starts on page 165) The Republic of Ragusa (starts on page 168) THE OTTOMAN EPOCH Chapter XIIThe Comming of Ottoman Turks(starts on page 175) Chapter XIIIThe Second Century of the Ottomans: The Conquest of Constantinople and the consolidation of the Ottoman Empire in Europe(starts on page 191) Chapter XIVThe Ottoman Empire at its Height(starts on page 211) Chapter XVThe Ottoman Institutions and Society(starts on page 226) Chapter XVIThe Beginning of Ottoman Decay(starts on page 244) Chapter XVIIEurope Assumes the Offensive Against The Ottoman Empire(starts on page 261) Chapter XVIIIThe Ottoman Empire in the Era of French Revolution and of Napoleon Bonaparte(starts on page 275) THE EPOCH OF LIBERATION Chapter XIXThe Survey of the Ottoman Empire at the beginning of the 19th century(starts on page 293) Chapter XXThe Serb Revolt and the Foundation of the Serb State(starts on page 309) Chapter XXIThe Greek Revolt and the Foundation of the Greek State(starts on page 327) Chapter XXIIContinued decay of the Ottoman Empire. First Attempts at Reform. The Crimean War (1854-1856).(starts on page 345) Chapter XXIIIThe Affairs of Moldavia and Wallachia and the founding of Rumanian State(starts on page 366) Chapter XXIVBetween Two Wars: Balkan developments from the Treaty of Paris to the Turco-Russian war (1877)(starts on page 380) Chapter XXVThe Turco-Russian War (1877) and the Congress of Berlin (1878)(starts on page 393) Chapter XXVIThe Making of Bulgaria(starts on page 407) Chapter XXVIISultan Abdul Hamid. New Phases of Ottoman Decay: Armenia, Crete, Macedonia.(starts on page 420) Chapter XXVIIINew Phases of European Policy. The Bagdad Railroad, the Turkish Revolution of 1908(starts on page 438) Chapter XXIXThe Annexation of Bosnia and the European Crisis of 1908. Domestic Policy of the Young Turks. The Revolt of Albania. (starts on page 455) Chapter XXXNew Ottoman Wars: (1) The War with Italy (1911); (2) The First Balkan War 1912; (3) The Second Balkan War 1913;(starts on page 467) Chapter XXXIThe Great War and the Balkan Peninsula(starts on page 482) Chapter XXXIIThe Peace - and After(starts on page 500) Conclusion. The Balkan Peninsula and the Near East: The Newest Phase of an Ancient Problem.(starts on page 524)
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Post by ilirdardani on Dec 3, 2009 10:47:37 GMT -5
No chapters on Illyrians and Albanians?
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 3, 2009 11:18:28 GMT -5
There is a search feature there
Illyrians are mentioned on six pages (Pages 29, 30, 34, 71, 78, 545)
Albanians are mentioned on 21 pages (Pages 9, 71, 72, 117, 159, 203, 432 (map), 434, 436, 452, 463, 464, 465, 466, 470, 474, 505, 512, 533, 545, 550)
PS: No separate chapter on either Illyrians or Albanians.
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Post by ilirdardani on Dec 4, 2009 10:41:46 GMT -5
Of course there is a search feature, its just weird you consider this book to be 'amazing read' and 'unbiased' yet there is no chapter on Albanians and Illyrians. (especially a book on the Balkans)
It talks so much about Slavs and we all know they are new comers to the Balkans, while Greeks and Albs have been there for 5000+ years.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 4, 2009 13:06:01 GMT -5
The author himself states that Albanians are of Illyrian origin (which to me is dubious at best while Dacian thesis seems more and more logical) thus you can not say he is 'biased' or 'anti-albanian' while there is not much to write from a viewpoint of a early 20th century writer about two subject which in themselves haven't really contributed all that much historically speaking in Balkans versus say Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs, Turks, Romans, Byzantines in terms of what has been recorded. Hence the reason why there is not much to state about either one of them.
What is stated is that Illyrians were primitive barbarian tribes of whom some (southern ones) were blessed to be at least semi-civilized due to proximity of ancient Greece (which in itself was blessed to be under influences coming from near east and Egypt).
Albanians were mentioned as primitive warlike tribal mountaineers who were basically illiterate until almost 20th century (till then loyal ottoman subjects) and who became independent primarily due to territorial separation from Ottomans and in order to prevent Serbs and Greeks from taking over what is now known as Albania.
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Post by rex362 on Dec 4, 2009 13:28:12 GMT -5
Ottomans and in order to prevent Serbs and Greeks from taking over what is now known as Albania.
yea but they failed ...they lost 2/3'rds of it
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 4, 2009 17:50:48 GMT -5
There are very few real Albanians that might be connect to the defunct barbarian tribes called Illyrian..the rest are Ottoman seedlings....
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Post by redbaron on Dec 4, 2009 19:00:58 GMT -5
There are very few real Albanians that might be connect to the defunct barbarian tribes called Illyrian..the rest are Ottoman seedlings.... Very few, but they all settled in northern epirus.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Dec 4, 2009 21:24:00 GMT -5
19th century minded literature... amazing read.... lol!!
(PS: I know the actual date of publication, however most histories pre-WWII are based on all too often antiquated terminology and ideas that were thrown out in the aftermath off WWII. Terms like "primitive" or "barbaric" are no longer considered to be anthropologically adequate terms. But considering out Aadmin has only recently discovered literature... I guess it will suffice).
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Post by srbobran on Dec 5, 2009 1:23:06 GMT -5
Yeah but Serbs and Bulgarians are mentioned much more in written historical documents than Albanians so our history is more well documented than yours.
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Post by Patrinos on Dec 5, 2009 5:21:57 GMT -5
They don't need to write much about Illyrians... a piece of their art is enough to understand their majesty...: The book also forgot mentioning the masterpieces of illyrian and albanian literature until 1900...
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