Turks in pictures.

[Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning]

I have already alluded to this by saying in
my previous post that people eventually do things in their own way and even if people adopt influences from others they develop their own style and inovations.

They also influence it with THEIR own traditions. This part you forgot to add in

The word Plov-Pilav is from Persia that much is not ambiguos and the same is true for Kebab.

Where a word comes from doesn't cement that word to the product.

As I have said I eat a lot of Persian food and I have also tried a reasonable amount of Turkish food, and there are differences sure but I wouldnt say in every case completly different, as I gave the example of Turkish Adana Kebab and Persian Koobideh Kebab which are extremly similiar even in how they are served, probably the main diffenrce being that Turks will be more inclined to sometimes eat the Adana Kebab in a breadroll type of thing (Armenians from Armenia do the same) whereas Persians tend to eat it on an open plate and also accompanied with rice.

Obviously you are misinformed. The Koobidah kebab and Adana kebap are prepared very differently, although they may taste similar to you, the whole process is different. For a start Koobideh is made from ANY ground meat, whereas Adana kebab is only made with Lamb with the silverskin removed , it is then mixed with the fat from the tail. Only salt and dried red pepper flakes generally HOT especially in Adana are added to the meat. Any pepper is added into the Koobidah. Adana kebab is served with onion salad garnished with sumac, barbecued tomato quarters, and bell peppers,. Never with rice.
Adana kebab is a protected Geographical Indication under the Turkish patent office

Do not talk to me about how Koobideh and Adana kebab are extremely similar since I am from Adana, and have ate the kebab in the most traditional restaurants. I have also eaten the persian version, it doesn't compare, unless you eat it abroad, where who knows what they are serving you. In London they try to pass off some nasty stuff as kebab too.

In this case its hard to know who adopted it from who or whether both have their own independant histories but by coincidence became slightly similiar.

Regardless the Greek corek is different to Turkish corek, have you eaten any? I have. The Greek Corek is much sweeter.

I dont miss that point, yes there is such thing as Turkish this or that I am saying such a thing has evolved from a fusion of influences and cultures into something of its own, certainly some of the historical influences have been from central asia but many from neighbours and Anatollian historical communities is what I have been saying.

No you have been saying that Turkish is a fusion of other cultures. Wheras Turks have their own culture and may have adopted some foods(although nothing you have said proves this). Yet it is a normal natural process, also all the other nations have there foods influenced by others too, therefore why point out only Turkey?

true however probably safe to say Turkics and Congolese had probably if at all no to little affiliations with each other, that is not the same case between Turkics and Persian/Iranic peoples.

Yet we don't know who influenced who, for allwe know they are the same race of people who divided through time. You cannot conclude that Turks are just constantly copying and being influenced by others by looking at wikipedia.

[Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning]

www.turkish-cuisine.org/english/pages.php?ParentID=3&FirstLevel=28&PagingIndex=1 learn more about Turkish foods served throughout the Turks diverse lands.

[Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning]

different kebabs,,,,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebab

we can see from wiki ur fave resource that Doner kebab is exclusive to Turks, as are a few others, they aren't influenced as the whole concept is completely different to any other kebab.

[Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning]

www.foodbycountry.com/Germany-to-Japan/Iran.html

LOL read and see who took dolma and kebabs to Iran ..the Turks.

[Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning]

* Dolma This is probably the most famous dish on the Turkish menu. There are several different types of Dolma. My favorite is made with pepper and leaf. It consists of rice and ground beef, rolled up in vineyard leaves and stuffed into several peppers.
* Hünkâr Beĝendi This is a delicious side dish which contains a mixture of butter, milk, eggplant and cheese. My mouth is watering up just writing about it.
* Sish kebab/taouk This dish I’m sure everyone has heard of. It is four or five pieces of meat and vegetables barbecued on a single stick. Several dishes are a spin off from this one including Shwoermah and Sultani.
* Hirsiz Kebab (thief’s kebab) This dish is more of a local specialty in southwest Turkey. A big ceramic pot is heated by surrounding it with hot dirt and burning coal. The pot is then opened, and used like an oven to cook potatoes and sheep or goat meat. If you ever have a chance to eat this dish, I guarantee that you will love it.
* Doner Doner is basically pita bread filled with meat or chicken, lettuce, tomatoes, etc. Most of you know Doner as Sish Taouk sandwich, named such by the Lebanese… or Souvlaki, named such by the Greeks.
* Baklava Baklava has been the most influential Turkish food. Nothing tastes better than the original Turkish Baklava made of aşki (the layers of the Baklava), nuts, and delicious syrup.

[todhrimencuri]

Some Turks I know from my school

[todhrimencuri]

This is the kind of faces I think of most when I picture (western) Turks.

[sngr3]

Interesting topic, I also want to add some pics

Some girls:






















(Some of them I know in real life)

[Rhezus]

The ppl of Turkey (the ones I happen to know), I really do respect them for being smart (or non the less smarter Balkanians). In many aspects, Turkish ppl are better Europeans, as it goes, better than any of the Balkan nations. And this gets even clearer, after the facts that this nation is going strong forward, growing as mighty economic and military power.. (Since we are sitting here and talking nonsence and trying to bull them). I will contribute with some pix too - to reinforce the claim that some of you by purpose are trying to portray wrong image of Turkey etc. So have a look, explore some nice Turkish models:

www.hakanurf.com/





www.jurgita.com/models/turkish-models

[hellboy87]

These are most likely Turks of Balkan ancestry.

[Hellenas]

Gauls.



A Roman copy of*greek statue commemorating
the victory over the Galatians called The Dying Gaul.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatia

[turkish]

Jan 6, 2010 18:44:12 GMT -5 Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning said:

I have realised that in Europe most of the Turks we see aren't really representative of the Turks in Turkey. This is mainly due to the fact that most of them went to Europe after 1980 from the PKK regions, Sivas, Diyarbakir, Batman, Mardin.
So most were or had been mixed with Kurdish people. Who are generally of a darker complexion. They have much stronger eyebrows and more moles.

Although I have to clarify that these pictures are representative of Turkey and not Cyprus, as Cypriots are a lot lighter and have coloured eyes.

I just wanted to show the different types of Turks you can come across in Turkey.

You are so wrong. I live in Western Europe, my parents emigrated to this place from central anatolian plains during the 80's. We are from Afyon/Eskisehir provinces, these are pure Turkish provinces.

I think you are just being obsessed with blonde blue eyed people. The Turks here do not resemble Scandinavians, nor do they resemble dark skinned Arabs or Kurds. Most Turks have white skin or are light tanned like olive.

We are central Anatolian Turks, I feel insulted when you feel ashamed of us and tell that Turks from Turkey are more light skinned and different than us, even tell bullsj*t that we are Kurds and come from pkk regions.

[Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning]

whatever...

[kolonia]

Feb 11, 2011 16:41:23 GMT -5 Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning said:

whatever...

He is right...it clearly comes of as you are ashamed of darker looking Turks. Turkey is large, so there's a variety, you got lighter looking people and darker looking.

ps. This is the first I'm hearing that Cypriot Turks are lighter. I have always thought they were darker, especially those that I have come across here in London.

[Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning]

Really, did u see the pictures I posted, how many "light" Turks did I post?


Bollox to u and to him....

Cypriot Turks are mixed, many of them are much lighter, Greek Cypriots are generally darker, having said that there are also Black Turkish Cypriot people... its all in the mix.