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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2010 6:17:17 GMT -5
By the way here Tose Proeski (famous Macedonian star) is a guest to Slavi Trifonov show (Bulgarian TV star) - there was an interpreteur (probably Tose asked for one) but they go on without him. As u could see they do understand 100 percent of each other:
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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2010 6:29:01 GMT -5
Again a Macedonian visits a Bulgarian TV show:
there is no interpretation of course
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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2010 6:32:36 GMT -5
Bulgarian news on the visit of the Macedonian president in Bulgaria:
there is no interpretation of Macedonian president again arab, I wonder why?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 24, 2010 6:36:09 GMT -5
"I know that Macedonian and Bulgarian are technically closer to one another than Serbian is"
Thats the key, its only technically closer because they both *evolved* in a similar area and of similar influence, Macedonian (Vardarian) developed more types of definite articles than Bulgarian, so Macedonian was not *influenced* from the east slavic grammatical evolution. We can talk about other independant evolution of Macedonian, such as, its evolution of yat to e, i.e, serbian and Vardarian word of Mleko in comparision to Bulgarian Mlyako etc....
Nikola, just remember that OCS (old church slavonic) at its formation in northern greece was the language of the slavs then and basically *all* slavs (slovenes, croats, serbs, bulgars) spoke the same langauge. OCS had a declension system just what serbian, croat and slovene has today, it also didn't have definite articles just as slovene, croat and serbian hasn't etc.....
People who say that Bulgarian and Macedonian is one language is really really ignorant of the history of the slavs because it isn't as black and white when one looks into this complex issue.
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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2010 6:38:14 GMT -5
here most stamps from macedonia predate the exarchate and on any of them its written bulgarian
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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2010 6:42:44 GMT -5
Another Macedonian who took part in Music Idol in Bulgaria - again no subtitles:
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 24, 2010 6:42:55 GMT -5
^ oh jesus christ .....l realise you have been having sleepless nights, what does this prove Ioan?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 24, 2010 6:50:02 GMT -5
"I know that Macedonian and Bulgarian are technically closer to one another than Serbian is" Thats the key, its only technically closer because they both *evolved* in a similar area and of similar influence, Macedonian (Vardarian) developed more types of definite articles than Bulgarian, so Macedonian was not *influenced* from the east slavic grammatical evolution. We can talk about other independant evolution of Macedonian, such as, its evolution of yat to e, i.e, serbian and Vardarian word of Mleko in comparision to Bulgarian Mlyako etc.... Nikola, just remember that OCS (old church slavonic) at its formation in northern greece was the language of the slavs then and basically *all* slavs (slovenes, croats, serbs, bulgars) spoke the same langauge. OCS had a declension system just what serbian, croat and slovene has today, it also didn't have definite articles just as slovene, croat and serbian hasn't etc..... People who say that Bulgarian and Macedonian is one language is really really ignorant of the history of the slavs because it isn't as black and white when one looks into this complex issue.
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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2010 6:53:55 GMT -5
Again antibulgarism in Macedonia:
no interpretation again
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 24, 2010 6:57:19 GMT -5
^ oh jesus christ .....l realise you have been having sleepless nights, what does this prove Ioan? Just some sleep problems for the mongol:
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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2010 6:57:19 GMT -5
Your arab wanted videos from you tube (WESTERN SOURCE!!!!) that proove our Bulgarian claims: that Macedonians and Bulgarians have one and the same language. He got them.
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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2010 7:01:36 GMT -5
Arab thats just a fraction of all videos. Also, Novi, my Bulgarian friend, see the links too. You ll see that on the stamps its written Bulgarian before the Exarchate. If u were right, the writings should ve read Serbian not Bulgarian.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 24, 2010 7:03:32 GMT -5
Again antibulgarism in Macedonia: no interpretation again The funs of Vardar Skoplje dont seem too fanatic about joining mongolia any time soon btw...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 24, 2010 7:04:44 GMT -5
Ok, we watched your videos.... Now click on ours too.... Its not our problem that wetsern bulgarians are Serbs.
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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2010 7:05:18 GMT -5
Maybe, however, are u satisfied with the videos?
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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2010 7:08:20 GMT -5
Interestingly those so called Serbs refered to themselves as Bulgarians before any exarchate, plus their so called Serbian language is actually Bulgarian (analythical) and it has nothing to do with syntaxtical Serbian. I know it hurts you, cause your grannies refered to their language as simple BUlgarian but we are not to blame here.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 24, 2010 7:08:57 GMT -5
macedonie.startpagina.nl/prikbord/5801119/nationalisme-in-fyromWell if the biggest football club in the country does not want something, then by the rules of democracy, they have any right to believe so... Sorry Mongole Ioan.... BTW, most probably i am more blond than your gypsy mother who re so calling me "Arab" just makes you sound .... more .... MONGOL!
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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2010 7:19:33 GMT -5
So what does this proove Arab? That the Macedonians really fear any probulgarian action because they know deep down in themselves they are indeed Bulgarian. My mother is not gypsy, she is Bulgarian. Yes she has dark eyes and hair and its understandable. We are mediteraneans mostly. By the way, I understood u are not Greek. Its not appropriate to push it in every post. A blond person could hardly pass for a greek. But I was convinced u are not greek even before you said you were blond. I mean your action speak lowder than you non greek outlook, Arabian.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 24, 2010 7:23:18 GMT -5
^ Ioan, your talking from your butt. Dude, really man, the Bulgars don't have any credible proof to claim vardar, really.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 24, 2010 7:26:24 GMT -5
Pyrro, thankyou for the links man, with all this influence and propaganda they still don't have positive feelings towards the Bulgarian nation.
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