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Post by jerryspringer on Feb 22, 2008 5:52:29 GMT -5
Besarab, I'm a Moldavian myself, from Botosani county. Even though the Wallachian state formed earlier than the Moldavian state, I agree with what you said about Moldavia being a regional power. But let's not fool ourselves: Tarlev makes that kind of propaganda to serve his own interests. Now, I must ask you: what languages do you speak, apart from English and Bulgarian?
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Post by besarab on Feb 23, 2008 3:09:26 GMT -5
e,anitas -we are not going to discover amerika now ofcourse everyone [including me and you] thinks and acts in order to serve his own interests.anyway,in the discussions with my friends i allways try to be as objective as possible and as my national prejudices let me do this. look -i realy believe that to live in a big national state,where majority of the ppl share same language and culture is a much better choice than to live in a small and weak country.but in the begining of 21th century you cant push the people who dont share your values to change theyr mind.atleast not without using force and the force is unacceptable. here i m gonna give yoy an eg. you know about our fellows from macedonia.just 60,-70 years ago almost all they were proud bulgarians .and you cant imagine what 60 years of active propaganda along with benefits [for those who follow]and force[for those who dont] can do with the peoples mind.now in matter of identity there are several kinds of ,,makedonians''.part of them remain bulgarians .other ones express them selfs as makedonians in rep.of makedonia and bulgarians ,when visit bulgaria :D3th part of ppl admit theyr bulgarian ancestry but nowday feel makedonians ,meanwhile they dont think there is a contradiction in this.4 part think makedonians are slavs and nothing else and the slavs live on this land since ancienty.next ones believe that they are descendants both of ancient makedonians and slavs.and to be that mess absolutly totall -there is another part,- ones who believe that makedonians are the firs biblical people ,macedonia but not palestine is the holy land ,jesus is a macedonian and he s been crusifyed in a small town in western macedonia called ohrid ;D hahah..anyways there is something incommen in the ppl of parts 3 to 6 who forme the majority in macedonia now.THEY DONT WANT US. they want to live apart and i think they should have this right.does all this sound similar to you :)what do u think??? this conversation seems to be interesting but we going quite out of the topic so i am proposing you to continue on e mail or somewhere else..ofcourse if you want so.i would be glad to have one more friend-a moldovian from northeasthern romania greetings
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Post by ioan on Feb 23, 2008 4:44:26 GMT -5
besarab, my friend, unfortunately in your irony you are right. Those 300 "types" of people that live in fyrom that form this "nation" which is based on denying the obvious that they are just southwest Bulgarians since time immemorial.
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Post by jerryspringer on Feb 23, 2008 8:31:49 GMT -5
It's tragic what happened to Macedonia, and I support the Bulgarian claim to the land. Fortunatelly, things aren't so bad in Republic of Moldova. Were you from Ukraine or R. of Moldova?
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