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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 26, 2009 0:35:54 GMT -5
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Post by rusebg on Sept 26, 2009 2:14:24 GMT -5
One thing I would like to tell you. A pig might be born in a stable but it will never become a horse. The same for you. Regardless how hard you try, you will never become a Serb.
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Post by ioan on Sept 26, 2009 2:31:37 GMT -5
I see no Russians in the Bulgarian map. But the funniest thing in the "Serbian" map is that there are "Albanian speaking Serbs". Propaganda at its funniest!!!!!
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 26, 2009 4:02:27 GMT -5
I see no Russians in the Bulgarian map. But the funniest thing in the "Serbian" map is that there are "Albanian speaking Serbs". Propaganda at its funniest!!!!! does the term "Russes" mean anything in french Jovane? ;D ;D ;D How can you pretend to be so blind..... FIRST the eye will look in the LEGEND Ioan... and the legend include the term "Russes"... UNBELIEVABLE!!
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 26, 2009 4:04:25 GMT -5
One thing I would like to tell you. A pig might be born in a stable but it will never become a horse. The same for you. Regardless how hard you try, you will never become a Serb. neither should you expect real help from Greeks and Albanians in your tatar dreams... They will turn against you in no time... So, your only bet is sitting here and crying all day for greater balgaria ;D
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Post by ioan on Sept 26, 2009 8:18:26 GMT -5
Yes the Russians are in the legend but there are no Russians on the map. On the other hand, in the Serbian map, there is this strange kind of people: Albanian speaking Serbs.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 26, 2009 13:02:44 GMT -5
kastoriane, stop working payless for greater bulgaria, eat your bloody bradwurst, or whatever your masters call it and FAQ. PS You said once you have some vlah or arvanite blood or smth? ;D I understand your passion to portray yourself as supergreek.. ;D ;D PS2 next time your local neo-nazi harrasses you and you feel horrified and lonely as sh1t, have a stutgarter hofbrau on me.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 26, 2009 13:12:53 GMT -5
Yes the Russians are in the legend but there are no Russians on the map. On the other hand, in the Serbian map, there is this strange kind of people: Albanian speaking Serbs. did you check carefully? maybe the colors have faded away, during all those years... Anyway, in any case, WHY WOULD BULGARIANS WANT to include RUSSIANS in the legend OF A BALKANIAN MAP? Isn't it kind of ULTRA WEIRD? Isn't it kind of ULTRA ULTRA ULTRA ULTRA WEIRD? Any case, bulgarians talking/writing BS must be some ancient custom of yours which would explain that very map, but anyway i'd like to hear Jovan himself ... improvising on this. ;D
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Post by ioan on Sept 26, 2009 13:34:39 GMT -5
kastoriane, stop working payless for greater bulgaria, you do it for greater serbia. I think you even do not remember you are greek already right? one of the greatest nations and you overlook it to become serbian. its really pathetic. If I was Greek I do not think I would ve been able to deal with your "attitude". And I m tired of you attacking any Greek who tries to protect Greeks interest in Macedonia just because they ll harm Serbian one or help Bulgarian at the expense of the Serbian. Deal with it: Serbians f**ked up with Greece big time in Macedonia, creating a monster so that they steal Bulgarian people/land. I wouldnt be surprised if you had alot of Albanian blood. Compared to you, he is.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 26, 2009 23:57:05 GMT -5
kastoriane, stop working payless for greater bulgaria, you do it for greater serbia. I think you even do not remember you are greek already right? one of the greatest nations and you overlook it to become serbian. its really pathetic. If I was Greek I do not think I would ve been able to deal with your "attitude". And I m tired of you attacking any Greek who tries to protect Greeks interest in Macedonia just because they ll harm Serbian one or help Bulgarian at the expense of the Serbian. Deal with it: Serbians f**ked up with Greece big time in Macedonia, creating a monster so that they steal Bulgarian people/land. I wouldnt be surprised if you had alot of Albanian blood. Compared to you, he is. The greek Dogma of crying against the bad "komitatzides" (bulgarians) and then trying to portray whole Macedonia as ... bulgarians only for the sake of the name(i.e. make the nation of the bad komitatzides=bulgarians look and feel even greater) is the most idiotic strategy we could have thought of, and is it guaranteed to fail. Of course this is explained, cause we have been a capitalist protectorate with complete isolation from the rest of our natural space (=balkans), + a surreal lack of historical knowledge. So, while turkos (bulgos) claim those people, while geeks shout at them as bulgarians, they will only try to be more "makedonian". (before they go back to Yugoslavia). PS Hey Ioan, a turk calling a greek as ... having Albanian blood is funny. Anyway both the Serbian and Bulgarian map mark Ioannina as being pure greek, so once again you are an idiot.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 27, 2009 0:29:09 GMT -5
Yes, you forgot to say that you are one of the biggest morons of the forums.
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Post by ioan on Sept 27, 2009 0:57:46 GMT -5
The greek Dogma of crying against the bad "komitatzides" (bulgarians) and then trying to portray whole Macedonia as ... bulgarians only for the sake of the name(i.e. make the nation of the bad komitatzides=bulgarians look and feel even greater) is the most idiotic strategy we could have thought of, and is it guaranteed to fail. Calling those people was never a "strategy" (how can it be a strategy? ). It is a historic fact, its stems from the fact that those people called themselves Bulgarian and it cannot be a strategy. Stop manipulating the historic facts: Historians generally date the arrival of the Slavs in Macedonia and the Balkans to the 6th or 7th centuries AD. Ethnic Macedonians (assuming such a group existed) had little or no political national identity of their own until the 20th century. Any Macedonian identity during the Byzantine centuries is mostly expressed through the Greek medium. Medieval sources traditionally describe them as Bulgarians, a definition which survived well into the period of Ottoman rule as attested by the Ottoman archives and by descriptions of historians and travelers, for example Evliya Celebi and his Book of Travels. www.albanur.net/macedonia/people_of_macedonia.htmwtf? ? its the most laughable antigreek statement I ve heard and I hear alot from you. those arents synonyms but i guess i expect too much. i mean if you mix Macedonians with serbs when in reality they are bulgarians, it is understandable you mix another neighbours that have almost nothing in common. actually if the greeks go on on your path (Macedonia to be with serbia), the macedonism would become even more strong: it was born because of serbian nationalism, so pushing them to the serbs would be a great service to macedonism and great disservice to greece. I do not think having albo blood is something bad, its just that you are so antialbanian that I wouldnt be surprised if you indeed have smth albanian. i wouldnt call you a bright one either.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 27, 2009 10:07:24 GMT -5
Pyrro, the turks supported the bulgars in vardar (19th century) because they supported them of the deal made for european turkey, as Bulgari were the larger population. Russia wanted a larger Bulgarska in the 19th century so she can be master of the mediterrean at serbia's and greece's expense. In the 20th century the Germanics wanted a greater bulgarska, again at the expense of both serbia and greece.
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Post by ioan on Sept 27, 2009 12:13:52 GMT -5
Blah blah. The BUlgarians were never that much in what is European Turkey, at least they can not be compared to the Bulgarians in Macedonia. Any possessions of mediteranean lands is not Serbian problem, because Serbia never hady any population near the coasts, my dear Simple Bulgarian.
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Post by srbobran on Sept 27, 2009 15:03:56 GMT -5
^We had (and still do have) plenty of population along the Adriatic.
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Post by Rhezus on Sept 27, 2009 16:51:10 GMT -5
Well said Pyrros, I salute you! The strategy is really idiotic and definately going to fail. Makedonians will overcome, so greek and bulgarian propaganda will not change the World's or Europe's perception. Makedonians are going to enjoy the ultimate recognition at last.
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Post by rusebg on Sept 28, 2009 0:08:27 GMT -5
How comes you are so familiar with the world perception on Macedonia? Or Europe's, to shorten your explanation a little bit. You think everyone is as deluded as you are to believe in fairy-tales?
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Post by ioan on Sept 28, 2009 1:20:15 GMT -5
EXACTLY, PEOPLE FROM THE WORLD AND FROM EUROPE WHO HAVE READ SOMETHING ON THE MATTER know those peiple are bulgarians.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 28, 2009 2:10:18 GMT -5
Pyrro, the turks supported the bulgars in vardar (19th century) because they supported them of the deal made for european turkey, as Bulgari were the larger population. Russia wanted a larger Bulgarska in the 19th century so she can be master of the mediterrean at serbia's and greece's expense. In the 20th century the Germanics wanted a greater bulgarska, again at the expense of both serbia and greece. Thats very true. Guess what, after WWI, Greece got western Thrace as a present for contributing to the war (after 1917), with a small number of divisions. No greek is allowed to know, however, (Arxilleas tried to mute me many times on the matter) of two divisions of old Serbia (Bitoljska and Vardarska) who fought and spilled blood for the allies in the whole Serbian campaign and consequently the victory and our ... western Thrace. The whole thing is so dead sick, beaten and distorted to the ground that i think i will not waste any more time with this. If God looks upon us, let Him solve the problem, that His small children created.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 28, 2009 4:33:19 GMT -5
actually if the greeks go on on your path (Macedonians to be with serbia), the macedonism would become even more strong: it was born because of serbian nationalism, so pushing them to the serbs would be a great service to macedonism and great disservice to greece. Greeks, Macedonians,actually were on that path pre-1991 and of course no problem existed back then, as Macedonians eyes were turned on their north. Having said that, mistaking the almost-anti-serb Socialism of Tito with serbian nationalism, is another proof of the endless stupidity of our little Jovan here. A pro-Serb yugoslavia would have solved problems like Kosovo, Bosnia and Krajina much earlier. Ohh and Macedonia would be called south Serbia or Stara Srbija.... Unfortunately, too much freedom for all, had the known catastrophic results for all balkans. ...... BUT that freedom will be the reason that anyone will be begging for a new Yugoslavia in the not so distant future.
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