ivo
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Post by ivo on Nov 11, 2009 20:52:32 GMT -5
Ok then, so it's clear that Demosthenes = 'Ñðúáñêî ãþáðå'. He's not a true Macedonian, not even close.
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Post by macmako on Nov 12, 2009 8:40:31 GMT -5
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Post by srbobran on Nov 12, 2009 12:45:04 GMT -5
Referring to the establishment of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia, Karl Oestreich noted: "A considerable part of the rural population, although it then felt to be Serbian, seized the first opportunity of obtaining Slavic priests and so declared itself to be Bulgarian ......Whoever joined the Bulgarian Exarchate was registered in the Turkish population records as "bulgari-milet" and to the world as large was a Bulgar".
Karl Oestreich "Die Bevolkerung von Makedonien",Geographische Zeitschrift,Vol. XI, No.1,1905,pp.291
Although it is situated south of Sar-planina, Skoplje is the chief city of Old Serbia.....the rural population, although it is Serbian in origin, has for the most parts given its support to the Exarchate, since a Bulgarian bishop is for them more acceptable than a Greek bishop of the Ecumenical Church to which they formerly belonged. This is how the rural population around Skoplje has today come to be mostly Bulgarian; the same is true of the purely Serbian Tetovo".
Karl Oestreich "Makedonien" Geographische Zeitschrift, Vol.X, No.1, 1904,pp 198-199
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ioan
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Post by ioan on Nov 12, 2009 14:06:01 GMT -5
I guess Karl Oestreich must have been a Macedonian to know how the Macedonians felt.
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Post by rusebg on Nov 12, 2009 15:59:39 GMT -5
This is the German geologist, Ioan. The one who shed light on Balkan languages without speaking any of them.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 12, 2009 20:35:51 GMT -5
^ Was Brailsford a linguist, Ruse?
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Patrinos
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Post by Patrinos on Nov 13, 2009 6:29:26 GMT -5
Did you know that almost all Bulgarian schoolmasters within their area of Exarchate influence were Macedonians? Doesn't it mean anything to you?
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ioan
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Post by ioan on Nov 13, 2009 9:02:01 GMT -5
haha, good point Patrinos!!!
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 15, 2009 18:38:42 GMT -5
^ "Bulgarian agents, many of whom were from Macedonia and had been converted to the Bulgarian cause, inundated the whole of Macedonia and, under the aegis of the Exarchate, engaged in the work of bringing the people over to their side."
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Post by macmako on Nov 15, 2009 19:46:45 GMT -5
^ "Bulgarian agents, many of whom were from Macedonia and had been converted to the Bulgarian cause, inundated the whole of Macedonia and, under the aegis of the Exarchate, engaged in the work of bringing the people over to their side." Of course. Who else would the Macedonians side with? The only issue about all of this was the atrocities committed in bringing "the people" over to the Bulgarian side. Many suffered tremendous hardships.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 15, 2009 20:19:40 GMT -5
^ Yep, because the Bulgarians through the Exarchate wanted to convert them into Bulgars, while the Turks saw it as a way to prolonging its presence, due to their preference of submissive Bulgars than of the rebellious Greek or Serb.
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ioan
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Post by ioan on Nov 15, 2009 23:19:50 GMT -5
Well obviously the Turks were very very wrong about the Bulgarians. Only 6 years later after the establishment of the Exarchate one of the biggest uprisings in Europe arose in the "submissive" Bulgarian lands. 8 years after the Exarchate there was created the Kingdome Of Bulgaria. Obviously the Turks were very very wrong. But I do not know why you copy and paste a lie. Or you find submissiveness in one of the most bloody rebellion?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 16, 2009 4:05:49 GMT -5
^ once the bulgars obtained this evil, the bishops called for the people to be doubly submissive to the sultan.
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ioan
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Post by ioan on Nov 16, 2009 6:09:40 GMT -5
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