Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 7, 2010 10:32:23 GMT -5
I think Arsenije has commented on this topic before, particularly about Eastern Serbs. If I’m not mistaken his statements were basically saying that Eastern Serbs resemble Bulgarians more so than they resemble Western Serbs. If he chooses to elaborate on this topic a bit more, I’m sure we can all learn something. I think Arsenije has never stepped foot in Sumadija/South Serbia, so i find his words hollow and vacant. just like Ioan's words about vardar. PS i will not comment on th rest of your BS, i'll just let some mod delete them, simple as that!
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 7, 2010 10:40:16 GMT -5
Gyrrro, your statements really do show how little you know. And Kuber.. Kuber settled in Macedonia with nearly 100,000 Bulgars. He also had subjects of other ethnicities. Hey mr porno-addict, WERE THE FIRST BULGO BOOKS printed in Kragujevac, yes or no? ;D ;D ;D ;D About kuber your friend's wiki talks about 70,000, and the inscription CLEARLY DIFFERENTIATES the newcomers from Srem from the Bulgars... Also no sources around the composition between slavs/vlahs/germans/turkobulgars/avars/etc.... Also even the inscription itself cannot connect MAUROPATRIKIOUS with Kuber! ps what a f**king joke.... to deal with this nonsense... any way.... The sources around KUBER ARE UNQUESTIONABLE !!!
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Post by ivo on Jan 7, 2010 10:44:35 GMT -5
Arsenije is a person that makes Serbs look good, he shows that he is objective and actually discusses the things that he posts. On the other hand, racist haters like you and Captain Kangaroo cast a shadow on Serbs. This my opinion on Arsenije. I don't care for your comments, as they really don't add any value to these discussions. ROFLMAO!! So that's the solution huh? Anything that doesn't fit with your anti-Bulgarian propaganda, we'll wait for the mods to delete it. Yup, that's freedom of speech at its best.
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Post by ivo on Jan 7, 2010 10:46:22 GMT -5
The sources around Kuber state that he settled in Macedonia with his people. His people are noted, as you mentioned, to be 70,000.
But I guess let's just wait for a mod to delete all the threads, and then you can continue on with your anti-Bulgarian propaganda.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 7, 2010 13:29:37 GMT -5
what happened idiot? how your fictious 70,000 turned to an even more fictious 100,000 and then back to 70,000 again? Just like that? from an inscription when neither you can read, nor the idiots who modified or created the wiki!! Jesus!! the right thing is to delete anything a mongol has written here, but again that would hurt the "happy" part o fthe forum! LOL
LMAO!!!
Moron, you didn't say a word about kragujevac...... IN THIS RESPECT you resemble Ruse!! Atan, would start barking, while Ruse would simply ignore any inconvenient truth, like that with Miletic/Pejcinovic!!! Ioan, on the other hand would respond like: But Sumadinci identified as Bulgarians as well at 956 AD, when Khan XYZ conquered Beograd for 2 days!
You are funny blokes, its just getting boring from times to times... i am here only 2 days and bored already!
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Post by ivo on Jan 7, 2010 13:54:52 GMT -5
Both figures are estimates. Some sources, as it seems, say 70,000, some say 80,000, some say closer to 100,000. I’ve personally seen the 80,000 figure as the most common one. Regardless, the Kuber Bulgars numbered nearly 100,000.
A bit hypocritical don’t you think, especially coming from the person that suggested that Ruse and I should be banned and our posts should be deleted.
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Post by rusebg on Jan 7, 2010 19:36:43 GMT -5
I agree completely. It is much more interesting in the mental institution, with people like Vinetu, Napoleon, Ramses II and others surrounding you. Why have you escaped once again? Stay there please, and choose one very important historic personality.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 7, 2010 21:53:23 GMT -5
100,000 kuber bulgars, now 70,000, but in reality it was a big fat 0!.
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Post by ivo on Jan 8, 2010 1:03:42 GMT -5
Dear Captain Kangaroo, in reality you are a big fat 0.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 8, 2010 3:03:21 GMT -5
100,000 kuber bulgars, now 70,000, but in reality it was a big fat 0!. Novi, if you read the wiki en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuber , and follow it line by line and read the inscription you will see that it says: later the wiki translates the inscription as: but in Greek, i tell you with 100% certainty that the inscription clearly writes: CΕΡΜΗΣΑΝΩΝ (as you can see) which is pronounced as SERMISANON (genitive) while the nominative is CΕΡΜΗΣΑΝΟΙ (SERMISANI)... So this bubble about Keramisians!!! is because some english or bulgarian idiot thought that in Greek "C" must have been pronounced as "K"!!!! Was this in error? or was this in an effort to connect something Bulgarian with a native place in Makedonia (Keramisian plain...) Or is it yet another idiotic trick, which nobody can really buy. Also notice how the legend of the inscription clearly notes: the most likely historical "Kuber" most likely!!!! LMAO!!! So, i bet we can all see the "quality" of the mongol's sources...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 8, 2010 14:05:44 GMT -5
hey turkos!!!
what happened to your kuber? ha ha!! silence!!
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Post by rusebg on Jan 8, 2010 16:55:14 GMT -5
And what difference does it make, twat? Nothing, just a first letter. So what. Fvcking lunatics...why are they allowed in the forum?!
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Post by ivo on Jan 8, 2010 18:33:18 GMT -5
I'm glad that there's people like this on the forum, their ignorance is their own worst enemy.
I'm surprised that some of the other Serb members support this behaviour. In my opinion, people like Captain Kangaroo and Gurrooss Malllakkoos stain the Serbian image.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 8, 2010 20:00:55 GMT -5
Not bad mate, you've picked up a typical Bulgar contradiction. In the wiki article about kuber a year ago they had a man named Ivan Mikulchuk, but wiki now has him named Ivan Mikulchich.
Pyrro, the Bulgars have no legs to stand on regarding vardar ;D
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 9, 2010 1:28:28 GMT -5
And what difference does it make, twat? Nothing, just a first letter. So what. Fvcking lunatics...why are they allowed in the forum?! i explained what difference it makes idiot. read it again.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 9, 2010 1:31:33 GMT -5
Not bad mate, you've picked up a typical Bulgar contradiction. In the wiki article about kuber a year ago they had a man named Ivan Mikulchuk, but wiki now has him named Ivan Mikulchich. Pyrro, the Bulgars have no legs to stand on regarding vardar ;D the funny part, is that they always connect their failures with gyros, kangaroo, like fucking broken gramophones. Novi, why is it so boring?
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Post by rusebg on Jan 9, 2010 4:31:01 GMT -5
Stupid Novi, this man is the most renowned archeologist in fyrom, you dork. It is not our man, but an existing person with valuable findings and conclusions. You are really amazing. Whatever you post, be it a 'source' or something coming from your own mouth, it is always a failure.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 9, 2010 4:43:49 GMT -5
Stupid Novi, this man is the most renowned archeologist in fyrom, you dork. It is not our man, but an existing person with valuable findings and conclusions. You are really amazing. Whatever you post, be it a 'source' or something coming from your own mouth, it is always a failure. Mrs Queen of idiocy and distortion. NOVI DID NOT COMMENT ON THE QUALITY OR THE SCIENTIFIC LEVEL OF Mr Mikulchich, but rather on the REALLY BAD QUALITY (which in many cases enters the area of blatant bias and raw propaganda) of certain wikipedia articles, especially when referring to international politics. We just found another instance of another proven WRONG article. Why can't you step back from your pro-bulgo mania for a second and try to be a little skeptic or elementarily a little clever i might say? I never ever witnessed you here criticizing bulgaria in the slightest... You accuse Novi of being the worse kind of Serbian nationalist? (when in reality he is one fine and nice soul) Well, Novi has criticized Serbs and Serbian mentality many times.... How come and for you, there are always positive things to comment on Bulgaria? Isn't this weird? I mean, you won't find a VW salesman promoting toyota, but i guess in his private life he might say one good word about toyota right? or at least criticize VW. I don;t think for you this is the case.
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Post by rusebg on Jan 9, 2010 5:03:04 GMT -5
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 9, 2010 6:12:13 GMT -5
So an article is wrong when a name is mispelled? That's interesting. If there is a comma missing somewhere in the text, shall we disregard it as well? JESUS f**kING CHRIST!!!!!!!! (ruse i hope you understand that at this point my job gets really boring, but i feel i have to respond + i have some minutes spare for you) Well, here we go again.... The name IS NOT misspelled. The article ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuber ) suggests that : So according to the article Sermisani and Keramisians were two DISTINCT names, and that the former name refers to todays SREM, while the latter to the Keramissian plain. All good and understood up to now? Very good!!! Now, the article decodes the inscription seen here: as: "Of Maurus, patricius and archont of the Keramisians and Bulgars". when in reality the inscription writes: (i'll use "?" when i cannot figure out the exact letter) "ΜΑΥΡΟΠΑΤΡΙΚΙΩ??ΑΡΧΟΝTI ΤΩΝ ΣΕΡΜΙΣΑΝΩΝ?ΒΥΛΓΑΡ"which translates to "On (or with) mauropatricius Archont of SERMISANI and Bulgar"(well even this is not accurate, since in greek this case is actually Dativa and cannot be xlated directly into English) So, the article claiming that the inscription reads: "Of Maurus, patricius and archont of the Keramisians and Bulgars". IT TRIES TO CONNECT the people of Mauropatricius with the native Makedonian plain (Keramissian plain), while the actual Inscription talks about the people from SREM!! Do you find that normal? ok? scientific? If yes, then its your call.. bro...
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